To slab or not to slab?

To slab or not to slab?

Post by Paul Saubere » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00



I just looked at my UD Griffey rookie for the first time in years. It's been
in an album page probably since I got it out of a pack 10 years ago. The
centering looks fine. The gloss looks fine to the eye (I didn't llok at it
under magnification). The corners are sharp. The biggest defect I can see is
that a 1/4 inch section of the left front border is slightly curled. It
doesn't look like the front is separated from the rest of the card, but
there is definitely something noticeably wrong with the card.

Obviously it wouldn't grade a 10, but based on the description, what grade
might it receive?

What does one look at when trying to figure out what grade a card should
get?

What is the dividing line on whether it's worth it to get a card graded, if
you are planning on reselling? It appears that in the PSA 10 range, book
means nothing.

My collection of sets runs from 1977-91 and I am thinking of getting rid of
some of those in order to pick up issues of specific players. Collecting
sets via pack is just unmanageable now, with too many sets and the cost of
packs. I also don't like the smaller sets that have the same players over
and over again, but this is stuff that has been discussed ad nauseum on this
list as far as I can tell.

Inserts just don't interest me at all. The odds against pulling something
that I want are so great that it's not worth it. I wouldn't get e***d
about pulling a certain card, just because it books high. Griffey is a great
player, but he's not one of my favorites.

Paul Sauberer

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To slab or not to slab?

Post by Slas » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Probably a PSA 8.  Compare it to other PSA cards and you can have an
idea of the conditions.  PSA 10 is almost impossible so just look for
PSA 9 as your standard "GEM MINT" card.  If you have any flaws on the
card, its gonna get a PSA 8 or less.

Quote:

> I just looked at my UD Griffey rookie for the first time in years. It's been
> in an album page probably since I got it out of a pack 10 years ago. The
> centering looks fine. The gloss looks fine to the eye (I didn't llok at it
> under magnification). The corners are sharp. The biggest defect I can see is
> that a 1/4 inch section of the left front border is slightly curled. It
> doesn't look like the front is separated from the rest of the card, but
> there is definitely something noticeably wrong with the card.

> Obviously it wouldn't grade a 10, but based on the description, what grade
> might it receive?

> What does one look at when trying to figure out what grade a card should
> get?

> What is the dividing line on whether it's worth it to get a card graded, if
> you are planning on reselling? It appears that in the PSA 10 range, book
> means nothing.

> My collection of sets runs from 1977-91 and I am thinking of getting rid of
> some of those in order to pick up issues of specific players. Collecting
> sets via pack is just unmanageable now, with too many sets and the cost of
> packs. I also don't like the smaller sets that have the same players over
> and over again, but this is stuff that has been discussed ad nauseum on this
> list as far as I can tell.

> Inserts just don't interest me at all. The odds against pulling something
> that I want are so great that it's not worth it. I wouldn't get e***d
> about pulling a certain card, just because it books high. Griffey is a great
> player, but he's not one of my favorites.

> Paul Sauberer

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To slab or not to slab?

Post by Paul Saubere » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> Probably a PSA 8.  Compare it to other PSA cards and you can have an
> idea of the conditions.  PSA 10 is almost impossible so just look for
> PSA 9 as your standard "GEM MINT" card.  If you have any flaws on the
> card, its gonna get a PSA 8 or less.

OK, now the next logical question. Which sells for more on eBay on the
average, an unslabbed Griffey as I described or a PSA 8?

Paul Sauberer

 
 
 

To slab or not to slab?

Post by Bruce Morelan » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00



Quote:



> > Probably a PSA 8.  Compare it to other PSA cards and you can have an
> > idea of the conditions.  PSA 10 is almost impossible so just look for
> > PSA 9 as your standard "GEM MINT" card.  If you have any flaws on the
> > card, its gonna get a PSA 8 or less.

> OK, now the next logical question. Which sells for more on eBay on the
> average, an unslabbed Griffey as I described or a PSA 8?

Someone ran an auction within the last month where they described one of
these as follows:

"Ken Griffey's RC from the 1989 UD set. Condition is NrMT."

There was no scan.  Opening bid was $125 and they got it.  SMR on an 8 is
$120 and they seem to be going for about that.

Someone got $91 for a card they said should be a 9 or a 10 (no scan),
someone else got $112.50 or a card (with scan) they said would bring back at
least an 8 and maybe a 9 (an amazingly honest description, I think),
although someone else couldn't get $125 for a card they claimed was "PSA 10
??" (with scan).

You can find all of this out for yourself by doing a few searches on eBay.
You can search completed auctions, which gives you a good idea of what
people have paid recently.

bruce

 
 
 

To slab or not to slab?

Post by Chris Cathcar » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00


I would hope, just as a matter of principle, that the
dimwits who put "PSA 10???" in their auction
title/description end up getting less than those who
honestly describe their cards as not likely to get better
than an 8.  It's just a simple matter of fact that those
putting "PSA 10???" in their auction headers in all
likelihood don't have a clue how to judge the condition of
their cards, and you're not likely to get more than an 8.

And I *do* think there is some dishonesty going on in a LOT
of cases of those who have "PSA 10???" in the headers.  If
the people claim that the card has a legitimate shot at a
10, then in most cases it pays just to get a PSA membership
and submit the damn cards themselves and net a lot more
money, rather than knowingly pushing off the risk onto the
buyer.  And if they don't want to send them in because they
don't like professional grading on principle, then they
should stop invoking the name of a professional grading
company like a goddamned parasite when hawking their cards.

Chris

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To slab or not to slab?

Post by Slas » Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:00:00


I agree with Chris totally...especially with the last paragraph.

Quote:

> I would hope, just as a matter of principle, that the
> dimwits who put "PSA 10???" in their auction
> title/description end up getting less than those who
> honestly describe their cards as not likely to get better
> than an 8.  It's just a simple matter of fact that those
> putting "PSA 10???" in their auction headers in all
> likelihood don't have a clue how to judge the condition of
> their cards, and you're not likely to get more than an 8.

> And I *do* think there is some dishonesty going on in a LOT
> of cases of those who have "PSA 10???" in the headers.  If
> the people claim that the card has a legitimate shot at a
> 10, then in most cases it pays just to get a PSA membership
> and submit the damn cards themselves and net a lot more
> money, rather than knowingly pushing off the risk onto the
> buyer.  And if they don't want to send them in because they
> don't like professional grading on principle, then they
> should stop invoking the name of a professional grading
> company like a goddamned parasite when hawking their cards.

> Chris

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To slab or not to slab?

Post by BMCURR » Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>submit the damn cards themselves and net a lot more
>money, rather than knowingly pushing off the risk onto the
>buyer.  And if they don't want to send them in because they
>don't like professional grading on principle, then they
>should stop invoking the name of a professional grading
>company like a goddamned parasite when hawking their cards.

>Chris

Well said Chris. If it's so good they should  send it in to be graded and using
the excuse.."I don't believe in professional grading"  means your an idiot or
...it's not going to grade a 10.

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