Emperor Norton

Emperor Norton

Post by Faux_Pseud » Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:37:19



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I have been using the "let me know" function on e-bay for almost a
year now and have as of yet to see even one original Emperor Norton
script come up.  

I have hit a number of numismatic shops in the San Diego area over the
years and not one person here has seen on out side of a auction
catalog in thier life.

I found a news group post from 4 years ago mentioning that they sell
for X amount but as that is the only source I have found I don't know
how real the price was or for that matter if things have changed in 4
years.

Does anyone out there own any script from the Emperor?
Does anyone know how many were printed in the course of his time as
Emperor?
Has anyone got an idea as to what they sell for now or how frequently
they become available?

Anyone got one they want to donate to me?  Just kidding.

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Emperor Norton

Post by oldpape » Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:11:02


I have only seen a couple of these offered over the past couple of decades.
My guess is that 20-25 survive, although they were issued and "used" for at
least several years. I think that a price somewhere in the mid four figure
range is probably about right.  -Russell Kaye

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> I have been using the "let me know" function on e-bay for almost a
> year now and have as of yet to see even one original Emperor Norton
> script come up.

> I have hit a number of numismatic shops in the San Diego area over the
> years and not one person here has seen on out side of a auction
> catalog in thier life.

> I found a news group post from 4 years ago mentioning that they sell
> for X amount but as that is the only source I have found I don't know
> how real the price was or for that matter if things have changed in 4
> years.

> Does anyone out there own any script from the Emperor?
> Does anyone know how many were printed in the course of his time as
> Emperor?
> Has anyone got an idea as to what they sell for now or how frequently
> they become available?

> Anyone got one they want to donate to me?  Just kidding.

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>  .-'))    _  UIN= 66618055  _    (('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
> ' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
>  ((,,_;'.;'                 ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
>        ((_.;'*Faux_Pseudo*':._))        | - Andrew Jackson


 
 
 

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Post by Owen Linzmaye » Fri, 12 Jul 2002 01:10:07


For those that don't know him, here's a little info on Emperor Norton from
Biography.com:

Norton, (Joshua Abraham) "Emperor''     ? 1819 -- 1880
Legendary eccentric; born in England or South Africa. Nothing is known of
his life before he arrived in San Francisco along with others from around
the world in the wake of discovery of gold in 1848. But it appears that he
had at least spent some time in South Africa and that he arrived as a
relatively successful businessman; instead of trying to make his fortune by
prospecting, he apparently turned to speculating in rice, a valuable
commodity at the time, but ended up losing everything. This evidently drove
him into some delusional state if not outright madness and he is said to
have vanished for awhile. What is known for sure is that in 1857 he
reappeared in San Francisco wearing a costume suspiciously like France's
Napoleon III's, and announced that he was "Emperor Norton." For the next 13
years he paraded around the city in his uniform, issuing "proclamations" and
official-looking banknotes (which were honored in some restaurants) and
appearing at many official functions. Still an "open" frontier town, San
Francisco tolerated him with good humor, and when he died, thousands showed
up at his funeral. Numerous books, plays, and musical dramas have been
written about him, the most notable being Henry Mollicone's opera, Emperor
Norton (1981).

See also: http://www.discordia.org/~keeper/norton.html

BTW, if you ever come to San Francisco, be sure to check out the Wells Fargo
museum in the financial district. They have all sorts of neat stuff relating
to the gold rush days of SF, as well as an original Norton note. While
you're here, visit the SF Federal Reserve, too, and look at their amazing
currency collection. Both are free!

P.S. I've never seen a Norton note for sale at any price either.

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> I have been using the "let me know" function on e-bay for almost a
> year now and have as of yet to see even one original Emperor Norton
> script come up.  

> I have hit a number of numismatic shops in the San Diego area over the
> years and not one person here has seen on out side of a auction
> catalog in thier life.

> I found a news group post from 4 years ago mentioning that they sell
> for X amount but as that is the only source I have found I don't know
> how real the price was or for that matter if things have changed in 4
> years.

> Does anyone out there own any script from the Emperor?
> Does anyone know how many were printed in the course of his time as
> Emperor?
> Has anyone got an idea as to what they sell for now or how frequently
> they become available?

> Anyone got one they want to donate to me?  Just kidding.

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Post by Dave Parri » Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:05:21


I have been interested in these notes for sometime, back about 20
years ago they were cataloged at about $500 each and despite looking
far and wide I never found one.  I did see one in an auction catalog
about 5-6 years ago, and it was priced high, like $2500 and only in a
aF grade.

BTW I have found that the "Let Me Know" function on eBay doesn't
always work, I have seen stuff come up that I never got a notification
on.  But now eBay owns paypal, and in a few months they will make a
move on AOL and Microsoft so they could care less.

Dave

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> I have been using the "let me know" function on e-bay for almost a
> year now and have as of yet to see even one original Emperor Norton
> script come up.  

> I have hit a number of numismatic shops in the San Diego area over the
> years and not one person here has seen on out side of a auction
> catalog in thier life.

> I found a news group post from 4 years ago mentioning that they sell
> for X amount but as that is the only source I have found I don't know
> how real the price was or for that matter if things have changed in 4
> years.

> Does anyone out there own any script from the Emperor?
> Does anyone know how many were printed in the course of his time as
> Emperor?
> Has anyone got an idea as to what they sell for now or how frequently
> they become available?

> Anyone got one they want to donate to me?  Just kidding.

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Post by TomDeLor » Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:44:18


One sold at auction earlier this year. Check the catalogues for the Chicago and
Memphis shows.
Tom DeLorey
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>Subject: Emperor Norton

>Date: 7/10/2002 7:37 AM Central Daylight Time

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>I have been using the "let me know" function on e-bay for almost a
>year now and have as of yet to see even one original Emperor Norton
>script come up.  

>I have hit a number of numismatic shops in the San Diego area over the
>years and not one person here has seen on out side of a auction
>catalog in thier life.

>I found a news group post from 4 years ago mentioning that they sell
>for X amount but as that is the only source I have found I don't know
>how real the price was or for that matter if things have changed in 4
>years.

>Does anyone out there own any script from the Emperor?
>Does anyone know how many were printed in the course of his time as
>Emperor?
>Has anyone got an idea as to what they sell for now or how frequently
>they become available?

>Anyone got one they want to donate to me?  Just kidding.

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> .-'))    _  UIN= 66618055  _    (('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
>' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
> ((,,_;'.;'                 ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
>       ((_.;'*Faux_Pseudo*':._))        | - Andrew Jackson

TomDeLorey
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Owner of the world second-finest collection of the Coins of the Republic of
Honduras from 1832-1922, as if ANYBODY gave a rat's patoot......
 
 
 

Emperor Norton

Post by TomDeLor » Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:48:26


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>Date: 7/10/2002 11:44 PM Central Daylight Time

>One sold at auction earlier this year. Check the catalogues for the Chicago
>and
>Memphis shows.
>Tom DeLorey

Found it a bit earlier than I remembered. It was a 50 cents note in Stack's
mid-January sale. It went for about $4,887.50 (if I remember it correctly)
including the juice.
Tom DeLorey
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(By the way, I apoligoze if another version of this pops up. I registered with
Google and tried to reply from there, but on the very first posting I made thru
them I was told that I had already made too many postings and they would not
take any more!!! That is why people use "Internet For Dummies, aka AOL,"
because for all its faults it works nine times out of ten.)
TomDeLorey
.
Owner of the world second-finest collection of the Coins of the Republic of
Honduras from 1832-1922, as if ANYBODY gave a rat's patoot......
 
 
 

Emperor Norton

Post by Faux_Pseud » Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:54:08


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- --(Once apon a time, in rec.collecting.paper-money,)--
                --(Faux_Pseudo said it like only they can.)--
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Well thanks for everyone who responded.  Looks like all of the Nortons
have found their way into the hands of the die-hard collectors and
will never see the light of day again until one of them dies and it
ends up at auction and sells for 5 or 6 figures.
Kind of like original copies of Cerebus #1.  O well. Can't win them
all.

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 .-'))    _  UIN= 66618055  _    (('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
 ((,,_;'.;'                 ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
       ((_.;'*Faux_Pseudo*':._))        | - Andrew Jackson