Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by DaveHAL » Tue, 07 May 2002 10:20:13



I recently decided to put together some 1/48 scale Monogram kits to hang from
my son's bedroom ceiling fo decoration.  Among them was the Monogram P-51.
Years ago I fell in love with a drawing or photo of a mustang in bare metal
with a blue camo job on the upper surfaces.  It seemed the way to go with the
kit, but in trying to find photos I instead find debate as to wheither they
were painted blue or actually in green.  Does anyone have any photos or links
to a site on the topic?  Thanks!

David

 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by Crai » Tue, 07 May 2002 10:39:19


I remember buying a 1/48 P-51 kit in the 70's that had a color pic of the planes
in formation from
WWII as the box art. I would say its ok to paint it that way. I thought it was a
bit odd myself too.

Craig

Quote:

> I recently decided to put together some 1/48 scale Monogram kits to hang from
> my son's bedroom ceiling fo decoration.  Among them was the Monogram P-51.
> Years ago I fell in love with a drawing or photo of a mustang in bare metal
> with a blue camo job on the upper surfaces.  It seemed the way to go with the
> kit, but in trying to find photos I instead find debate as to wheither they
> were painted blue or actually in green.  Does anyone have any photos or links
> to a site on the topic?  Thanks!

> David


 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by Do » Tue, 07 May 2002 11:20:38



I thnk research has shown that thse aircraft were *probably* painted with RAF
Dark Green on the upper surfaces. I think the idea that the color was blue came
about from studying prints (or negatives?) where the pigment of the negative
had faded to a bluish shade.
  Hey, if you want to do it Blue, go ahead, as long as you and your son are
happy, that's what really counts.  JMHO

Quote:
>I remember buying a 1/48 P-51 kit in the 70's that had a color pic of the
>planes
>in formation from
>WWII as the box art. I would say its ok to paint it that way. I thought
>it was a
>bit odd myself too.

>Craig


>> I recently decided to put together some 1/48 scale Monogram kits to hang
>from
>> my son's bedroom ceiling fo decoration.  Among them was the Monogram P-51.
>> Years ago I fell in love with a drawing or photo of a mustang in bare
>metal
>> with a blue camo job on the upper surfaces.  It seemed the way to go with
>the
>> kit, but in trying to find photos I instead find debate as to wheither
>they
>> were painted blue or actually in green.  Does anyone have any photos or
>links
>> to a site on the topic?  Thanks!

>> David


Don McIntyre
Lancaster, PA
 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by SnJmodpr » Tue, 07 May 2002 13:17:03


Dave,
There is a Restored P-51D thats been at Reno painted in the Blue scheme so yes
it does exsist. Just maybe not as an actual WW2 aircraft.
Scott
The SnJ Guy

"Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amatuers built the Ark.
Professionals built the Titanic."

 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by Keith Walke » Tue, 07 May 2002 14:24:39


I have heard that they were actually green, and have seen a color photo of
the planes in question, being olive drab in color.

Having said that, I do believe that there was a airshow warbird painted with
the blue color, so if you like you could do it both ways!

If you want to confirm the color issue, post a question on the aviation
binaries newsgroup.

Keith


I recently decided to put together some 1/48 scale Monogram kits to hang
from
my son's bedroom ceiling fo decoration.  Among them was the Monogram P-51.
Years ago I fell in love with a drawing or photo of a mustang in bare metal
with a blue camo job on the upper surfaces.  It seemed the way to go with
the
kit, but in trying to find photos I instead find debate as to wheither they
were painted blue or actually in green.  Does anyone have any photos or
links
to a site on the topic?  Thanks!

David

 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by C. Baltrin » Tue, 07 May 2002 14:30:41



Quote:
>I recently decided to put together some 1/48 scale Monogram kits to hang from
>my son's bedroom ceiling fo decoration.  Among them was the Monogram P-51.
>Years ago I fell in love with a drawing or photo of a mustang in bare metal
>with a blue camo job on the upper surfaces.  It seemed the way to go with the
>kit, but in trying to find photos I instead find debate as to wheither they
>were painted blue or actually in green.  Does anyone have any photos or links
>to a site on the topic?  Thanks!

>David

I believe you are referring to aircraft from the 361st Fighter Group.
They had solid yelow noses as the group markings. There is a Famous
picture of 4 375th FS Aircraft in tight formation with blue sky and
white billowing clouds in the back ground. I think 3 were p-51D and 1
was a p-51B (E2-D). the plane in the forground was E2-C "Lou IV". This
is a color ww2 picture and the paint does look bluish in the picture,
but I believe that is a result of all the "blue light" fromt the sky
affecting the exposure combined with the fact that the color film of
1944 was not exactly good at reproducing colors accurately.

Anyway, The Confederate AF painted one of their flying P51D's as Lou
IV and gave it brlight blue upper surfaces--I saw it at the cleveland
airshow when I was young. From all the pictures I have see, it looks
like it should be green. Here are some links that might help ya.

http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_eng_ww2incolor_louivaddendum.htm
http://www.361fg.com/Main/Enlarge/375fs/louiv.htm
http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_eng_profile_mustang1.htm
http://www.p-51mustangs-aliveandwell.com/aircraft/p51/44-63350.shtml
http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_eng_ww2incolor_louiv.htm

 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by Andre van der Hoe » Tue, 07 May 2002 18:16:11




Quote:
> I recently decided to put together some 1/48 scale Monogram kits to hang
from
> my son's bedroom ceiling fo decoration.  Among them was the Monogram P-51.
> Years ago I fell in love with a drawing or photo of a mustang in bare
metal
> with a blue camo job on the upper surfaces.  It seemed the way to go with
the
> kit, but in trying to find photos I instead find debate as to wheither
they
> were painted blue or actually in green.  Does anyone have any photos or
links
> to a site on the topic?  Thanks!

There was an article on this very topic on the IPMS Sweden site. Check:

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/1998/05/stuff_eng_ww2incolor_lo...

HTH,

Andre

 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by Levente VALEN » Tue, 07 May 2002 18:40:27


In WWII, it was Olive drab camo, but on www.MustangsMustangs.com you can see
a replica.
http://www.p-51mustangs-aliveandwell.com/aircraft/p51/44-63350.shtml
It has the same camouflage pattern as the original Lou IV, but the Olive
Drab has been changed to light blue. A very impressive paint job.

--
Levente VALENT

 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by Andy Macra » Tue, 07 May 2002 18:49:01


Very interesting article but not sure about the blue and green combination conclusion. Looks more like ocean grey and green to me?

Andy


Quote:


> There was an article on this very topic on the IPMS Sweden site. Check:

> http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/1998/05/stuff_eng_ww2incolor_lo...

> HTH,

> Andre

 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by rudolf » Tue, 14 May 2002 00:39:40


Could be 361th FG 8th AF, during WW2.

H.


Quote:
> I recently decided to put together some 1/48 scale Monogram kits to hang
from
> my son's bedroom ceiling fo decoration.  Among them was the Monogram P-51.
> Years ago I fell in love with a drawing or photo of a mustang in bare
metal
> with a blue camo job on the upper surfaces.  It seemed the way to go with
the
> kit, but in trying to find photos I instead find debate as to wheither
they
> were painted blue or actually in green.  Does anyone have any photos or
links
> to a site on the topic?  Thanks!

> David

 
 
 

Air- Mustang blue/green camo debate

Post by David O. Garci » Tue, 14 May 2002 07:21:11


Hello David,

Here is a link to a photo on the Little Friends website that I restored
using PhotoShop. The top colors in the original image are dark green.  HTH.

http://www.little-friends.abelgratis.co.uk/Pictures/361g/E9-O.htm

Thanks,

David O.


Quote:
> I recently decided to put together some 1/48 scale Monogram kits to hang
from
> my son's bedroom ceiling fo decoration.  Among them was the Monogram P-51.
> Years ago I fell in love with a drawing or photo of a mustang in bare
metal
> with a blue camo job on the upper surfaces.  It seemed the way to go with
the
> kit, but in trying to find photos I instead find debate as to wheither
they
> were painted blue or actually in green.  Does anyone have any photos or
links
> to a site on the topic?  Thanks!

> David