Commonwealth Ca-15 Colors & Markings?

Commonwealth Ca-15 Colors & Markings?

Post by Redr » Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>I just bought the Czechmasters 1/72 resin kit. This is the second version
>with the liquid cooled engine. The only references I have do not clearly show
>what type of roundels were used. Lots of obscuring glare in the photos seem
>to show nothing in the roundel center, but in one photo there appears to be
>either a (red? blue?) circle or (could it be?) a kangaroo. When did the
>Australian Air Force start using the "Kangaroo Roundel"? Also, does anyone
>know what color the anti-glare area on top of the cowl was? Thank you.

The CA-15 was polished natural metal finish.  National isignia were
the WWII variety, blue/white, roundels in std six point pattern (wings
upper/lower, fuselage sides), fin flashes, had white leading.  Serial
was black numerals, 8" high.  Anti-dazzle panel matt black.

The RAAF returned to red centre roundel from 1947 on in a gradual
process.  The kangaroo was introduced to the RAAF and RAN in 1956.
The Navy achieved the conversion faster than the RAAF due to its
smaller fleet size.  The RAAF took 10 yrs to convert.  Initially the
RAAF applied the kangaroo to the fuselage only.  Hope that helps.

Gary Byk
SPASM
APMA #424
IPMS USA #36182

 
 
 

Commonwealth Ca-15 Colors & Markings?

Post by Charles Met » Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00


 > I just bought the Czechmasters 1/72 resin kit. This is the second
 > version with the liquid cooled engine. The only references I have do
 > not clearly show what type of roundels were used. Lots of obscuring
 > glare in the photos seem to show nothing in the roundel center, but
 > in one photo there appears to be either a (red? blue?) circle or
 > (could it be?) a kangaroo. When did the Australian Air Force start
 > using the "Kangaroo Roundel"? Also, does anyone know what color the
 > anti-glare area on top of the cowl was? Thank you.

I'm away from my library at the moment, but my database knows of only
four references four the CA-15:

-- an article entitled "Commonwealth Ca-15" in 'Wings of Fame, Volume 4'
(Aerospace/AIRtime, 1996), which includes some nice photos;

-- the book 'RAAF Camouflage & Markings 1939-45, Vol 2,' by Pentland
(Kookaburra, 1989);

-- the book 'Aircraft of the RAAF 1921-71,' by Pentland and Malone
(Kookaburra, 1971), which includes a profile painting of the CA-15 on
page 72;

and

-- the book 'Wirraway, Boomerang and CA-15 in Australian Service,' by
Wilson (Australian Airpower Collection series [unnumbered]; Aerospace
Publications, 1991), which shows CA-15***pit detail on pages 186 and
213.

Get in touch if you don't have this stuff and can't track it down.

   Charles Metz

 
 
 

Commonwealth Ca-15 Colors & Markings?

Post by Mark Schyner » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:


> > I just bought the Czechmasters 1/72 resin kit. This is the second
> > version with the liquid cooled engine. The only references I have do
> > not clearly show what type of roundels were used. Lots of obscuring
> > glare in the photos seem to show nothing in the roundel center, but
> > in one photo there appears to be either a (red? blue?) circle or
> > (could it be?) a kangaroo. When did the Australian Air Force start
> > using the "Kangaroo Roundel"? Also, does anyone know what color the
> > anti-glare area on top of the cowl was? Thank you.

>I'm away from my library at the moment, but my database knows of only
>four references four the CA-15:

>-- an article entitled "Commonwealth Ca-15" in 'Wings of Fame, Volume 4'
>(Aerospace/AIRtime, 1996), which includes some nice photos;

>-- the book 'RAAF Camouflage & Markings 1939-45, Vol 2,' by Pentland
>(Kookaburra, 1989);

>-- the book 'Aircraft of the RAAF 1921-71,' by Pentland and Malone
>(Kookaburra, 1971), which includes a profile painting of the CA-15 on
>page 72;

>and

>-- the book 'Wirraway, Boomerang and CA-15 in Australian Service,' by
>Wilson (Australian Airpower Collection series [unnumbered]; Aerospace
>Publications, 1991), which shows CA-15***pit detail on pages 186 and
>213.

>Get in touch if you don't have this stuff and can't track it down.

>   Charles Metz

Add to that a pretty good article in Air Enthusiast (old series) V.3
(Pp. 178-80, October 1972).

Mark Schynert

 
 
 

Commonwealth Ca-15 Colors & Markings?

Post by Don Stauffe » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

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Commonwealth Ca-15 Colors & Markings?

Post by Francis X. Kranick, Jr » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

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Commonwealth Ca-15 Colors & Markings?

Post by Dave William » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

> > For further information, please do not hesitate to contact us at
> > immediately. We will attend to your inquiry without any delay.

>    Yeah!  Bearings!  Finally!  Just what I've always wanted!  Where have
> these guys been hiding all this time?  :-O
>    Maybe if we contact them, like they mention, they'll go away?  Just a
> thought...
> --

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Commonwealth Ca-15 Colors & Markings?

Post by Brait » Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>I just bought the Czechmasters 1/72 resin kit. This is the second version
>with the liquid cooled engine. The only references I have do not clearly show
>what type of roundels were used. Lots of obscuring glare in the photos seem
>to show nothing in the roundel center, but in one photo there appears to be
>either a (red? blue?) circle or (could it be?) a kangaroo. When did the
>Australian Air Force start using the "Kangaroo Roundel"? Also, does anyone
>know what color the anti-glare area on top of the cowl was? Thank you.

I have a publication titled "Wirraway, Boomerang and CA-15" in
Australian Service (part of a series of publications focussed on
aircraft in Australian Service) which provides a comprehensive history
of the CA-15.  The aircraft is also covered in two separate editions
of military aircraft of Australia, one authored by Wilson (the same
author as the book above) and the other by Gillett.  A number of
references can be found in various aviation books and magazines (eg:
Airplane).  It's good to know there is a model of this aircraft out
there as it is a desired future project.  

Roundels for the aircraft were WW2 blue/white variety on both
upper/lower wings and either side of the fuselage. Blue/white tail
insignia (white leading) was also displayed. Aircraft A62-1001
featured a yellow P in a circle on either side of the fuselage just
aft of the***pit and in front of the blue/white roundel. The
anti-glare colour is matt black.

The kangaroo was not brought into service until about 1956 from my
records and only on fuselage sides to begin with. The blue/white
roundel was no longer used after the war with the red centre 'dot' put
back on aircraft between the end of the war and 1956.

All the best