(AIR) - B-24 Info Requested

(AIR) - B-24 Info Requested

Post by Jnoa » Mon, 05 Oct 1998 04:00:00



I'd like to surprise my neighbor with a model of the B-24 he flew in as a waist
gunner in the ETO.  His wife has stolen some pictures from his album, so here's
what I can deduce from some heavily censored B+W photos:

-Based near Spinazola, Italy, around mid-1944
-A/C is in bare metal finish
-In one shot, a buzz number of 145 is visible below and forward of the***pit
-One heavily censored in-flight photo shows 4 turrents (nose, tail, belly, top)
plus two waist guns. Just aft of the waist gunner position I can see the
beginnings of what appears to be a black square with a white "Y", "V", or "W"
in it.
-Star and Bar are blue and white, blue outline on bar.
- There is some sort of insignia on the upper vertical tails, and it is
censored with a large black square.  Lower half of vertical tails appear to be
painted black; there is a light vertical bar (like an "I") centered in the
black.
-ADF football visible atop fuselage, just aft of wing trailing edge.
-I realize that I may be looking at a collage of photos of more than one B-24.

By now it should be paiinfully obvious that I'm not a Liberator expert.  If
anyone can point me towards a better definintion of the version and markings,
I'd appreciate it.  I'll try to coerce the Unit and AF numbers out of him in
the interim.

Please respond via email if you can help, and thanks in advance.

John Noack
IPMS 23017
President, IPMS/USA

 
 
 

(AIR) - B-24 Info Requested

Post by Shaw » Tue, 06 Oct 1998 04:00:00


Why don't you just simply talk to him and bring the subject up. I'm sure he will
not suspect anything but that your interested. Thats what I would do but then
again, I do not know him.

        Shawn

Quote:

> I'd like to surprise my neighbor with a model of the B-24 he flew in as a waist
> gunner in the ETO.  His wife has stolen some pictures from his album, so here's
> what I can deduce from some heavily censored B+W photos:

> -Based near Spinazola, Italy, around mid-1944
> -A/C is in bare metal finish
> -In one shot, a buzz number of 145 is visible below and forward of the***pit
> -One heavily censored in-flight photo shows 4 turrents (nose, tail, belly, top)
> plus two waist guns. Just aft of the waist gunner position I can see the
> beginnings of what appears to be a black square with a white "Y", "V", or "W"
> in it.
> -Star and Bar are blue and white, blue outline on bar.
> - There is some sort of insignia on the upper vertical tails, and it is
> censored with a large black square.  Lower half of vertical tails appear to be
> painted black; there is a light vertical bar (like an "I") centered in the
> black.
> -ADF football visible atop fuselage, just aft of wing trailing edge.
> -I realize that I may be looking at a collage of photos of more than one B-24.

> By now it should be paiinfully obvious that I'm not a Liberator expert.  If
> anyone can point me towards a better definintion of the version and markings,
> I'd appreciate it.  I'll try to coerce the Unit and AF numbers out of him in
> the interim.

> Please respond via email if you can help, and thanks in advance.

> John Noack
> IPMS 23017
> President, IPMS/USA


 
 
 

(AIR) - B-24 Info Requested

Post by Ladip » Fri, 09 Oct 1998 04:00:00


To John, et al.--

Checking Kenn Rust's 15 AF Story,  it appears that the subject B-24  may be a
460BS/464BG/15 AF. (see p.54)

Tail Fin--Upper Black Square, lower Black with Yellow "I"

Lawrence DiRicco
IPMS 3843