Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by J » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:32:09



I just picked up the Monogram Heinkel He 111 and the
Revell B-25J.

How well do the decals included with these kits compare
to Aeromaster and SuperScale?  I've tried using Revell
decals before and it seems that they did not respond
very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

I plan to test some of the decals, the ones I don't want
to use, but would like to hear ( read ) some opinions or
special methods for use with these decals.

Thanks,

Jim W

 
 
 

Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by Rufu » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:14:51


I haven't actually tried Revell kit decals in a few years though my most
recent kits sheets actually look pretty nice...but Monogram kit decals
SUCK with a capital "S".  I've never failed to be sorry after I've tried
them - most recently on the bottom side of the wing of my PBY-5 as
fill-in's for an Aeromaster sheet (BTW - Aeromaster decals are the
absolute best I've ever used).  Still contemplating removing or painting
over them three years after the fact.

If you do try to use Monogram decals, buy plenty of Solvaset and be
prepared to use the whole bottle(s)...

--
      -Rufus

Quote:

> I just picked up the Monogram Heinkel He 111 and the
> Revell B-25J.

> How well do the decals included with these kits compare
> to Aeromaster and SuperScale?  I've tried using Revell
> decals before and it seems that they did not respond
> very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

> I plan to test some of the decals, the ones I don't want
> to use, but would like to hear ( read ) some opinions or
> special methods for use with these decals.

> Thanks,

> Jim W


 
 
 

Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by Mike » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:24:22


Quote:

> How well do the decals included with these kits compare
> to Aeromaster and SuperScale?

 It depends, most of the time R/M decals are crap, bad printing, thick
and often inaccurate. However, some kits from time to time are pretty
good but I can't remember if the He-111 and the last reissue of the
B-25J were in that category. If the B-25 was an earlier release they'll
probably be junk.
 The ProModeler decals are pretty good, comparable to Superscale and the
better Aeromaster sheets, but often not in register.

Quote:
>  I've tried using Revell
> decals before and it seems that they did not respond
> very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

 Read the instructions, most of their decals(usually the crappy ones) do
not work with solvents and it usually says so in the instructions.

Quote:

> I plan to test some of the decals, the ones I don't want
> to use, but would like to hear ( read ) some opinions or
> special methods for use with these decals.

 If they're the thick, glossy, process printed(lots of dots instead of
solid colours) ones then about the best you can do is use them on a very
smooth glossy surface. Not that I'm much of an expert on using them
though, the print quality is usually so bad I don't bother with them.

--
Mike Dougherty
Toronto, Ontario
Canada

 
 
 

Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by Al Superczynsk » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:55:16



Quote:
>I've tried using Revell decals before and it seems that they did not respond
>very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

     The kit instructions should mention whether the decals are
compatible with setting solutions and solvents.  If they aren't try
using heat; press down with a cloth dampened with the hottest water
you can stand or carefully use a blow dryer set at low heat.

--
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Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by Ke » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:54:55


Quote:

>How well do the decals included with these kits compare
>to Aeromaster and SuperScale?  I've tried using Revell
>decals before and it seems that they did not respond
>very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

>I plan to test some of the decals, the ones I don't want
>to use, but would like to hear ( read ) some opinions or
>special methods for use with these decals.

I've built Monogram kits for years, and the only problem I've ever had
with the decals is a set that shattered when it got wet.

I use Testor's Model Master Decal Set (not solvent), put a puddle down
and slide the decla into place.  Blot up the excess set, and then
apply a coat of set to the decal, it helps to hold the part as flat as
possible.  It might take an application or 2 or 3, and you might have
to *** bubbles, but the decal should pull down tight.  This
technique also works with the Pro-Modeler decals.

Ken
----------------
Ken Lilly

*remove .org to reply*
When diplomacy fails, send in the B-52's

 
 
 

Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by Claus Gustafse » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:16:17


I've had no trouble with the Revell Germany decals from fairly recent
kits -8 -10 years, but the Monogram 1:32 scale kits I've gotten hold of
normally have had very dark decals, few stencils and only one option, while
the german stuff normally includes at least two options and fairly decent
stencils - have a look at their decal sheet for the Hawker Hunter - It's
awfully (lovely) BIG!

--
Claus Gustafsen
Strandby, Denmark

Bes?g min side p? www.gustafsen.nu
Visit my site at www.gustafsen.nu


Quote:
> I just picked up the Monogram Heinkel He 111 and the
> Revell B-25J.

> How well do the decals included with these kits compare
> to Aeromaster and SuperScale?  I've tried using Revell
> decals before and it seems that they did not respond
> very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

> I plan to test some of the decals, the ones I don't want
> to use, but would like to hear ( read ) some opinions or
> special methods for use with these decals.

> Thanks,

> Jim W

 
 
 

Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by Rufu » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:02:50


Ditto for the one that came with the RoG edition of the 1/32 F-14.  Very
large nicely printed sheet with options for two aircraft - one of them a
very nice VF-111 Sundowners scheme in tactical greys.

To echo what Claus says - the Hunter set is probably one of the most
complete set of markings to come out-of-the box I've ever seen, too.

--
      -Rufus

Quote:

> I've had no trouble with the Revell Germany decals from fairly recent
> kits -8 -10 years, but the Monogram 1:32 scale kits I've gotten hold of
> normally have had very dark decals, few stencils and only one option, while
> the german stuff normally includes at least two options and fairly decent
> stencils - have a look at their decal sheet for the Hawker Hunter - It's
> awfully (lovely) BIG!

> --
> Claus Gustafsen
> Strandby, Denmark

> Bes?g min side p? www.gustafsen.nu
> Visit my site at www.gustafsen.nu


>>I just picked up the Monogram Heinkel He 111 and the
>>Revell B-25J.

>>How well do the decals included with these kits compare
>>to Aeromaster and SuperScale?  I've tried using Revell
>>decals before and it seems that they did not respond
>>very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

>>I plan to test some of the decals, the ones I don't want
>>to use, but would like to hear ( read ) some opinions or
>>special methods for use with these decals.

>>Thanks,

>>Jim W

 
 
 

Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by Robert W. Neuma » Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:18:10


I had major problems with the decals on the Monogram Re-release of the
Willy Ley Passenger rocket Shuttle vehicle. The decals shriveled
up when I used decal set then shriveled up `horribly' when I put
over a cost of Testors clear Dullcoat. So bad that I purchased another kit
and we'll try again (but I'll test the decals first).
Bob
Quote:
>> Bes?g min side p? www.gustafsen.nu
>> Visit my site at www.gustafsen.nu


>>>I just picked up the Monogram Heinkel He 111 and the
>>>Revell B-25J.

>>>How well do the decals included with these kits compare
>>>to Aeromaster and SuperScale?  I've tried using Revell
>>>decals before and it seems that they did not respond
>>>very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

>>>I plan to test some of the decals, the ones I don't want
>>>to use, but would like to hear ( read ) some opinions or
>>>special methods for use with these decals.

>>>Thanks,

>>>Jim W

 
 
 

Quality of Revell / Monogram Decals

Post by SumD » Sun, 16 Jun 2002 05:15:25


I'm in the decal phase of the B-17G ... what a terrible kit for
fits/alignment ... anyways ...
  just put one decal on as of this writing, and the decals are a bit
thick.  it reacted well to the micro set, but the Polly scale "Decal
sol" didn't seem to affect it
  for what this was worth ...


Quote:
> I had major problems with the decals on the Monogram Re-release of the
> Willy Ley Passenger rocket Shuttle vehicle. The decals shriveled
> up when I used decal set then shriveled up `horribly' when I put
> over a cost of Testors clear Dullcoat. So bad that I purchased another kit
> and we'll try again (but I'll test the decals first).
> Bob

> >> Bes?g min side p? www.gustafsen.nu
> >> Visit my site at www.gustafsen.nu


> >>>I just picked up the Monogram Heinkel He 111 and the
> >>>Revell B-25J.

> >>>How well do the decals included with these kits compare
> >>>to Aeromaster and SuperScale?  I've tried using Revell
> >>>decals before and it seems that they did not respond
> >>>very well to decal solvent - they wouldn't snuggle down.

> >>>I plan to test some of the decals, the ones I don't want
> >>>to use, but would like to hear ( read ) some opinions or
> >>>special methods for use with these decals.

> >>>Thanks,

> >>>Jim W