CF-18

CF-18

Post by Don Harsta » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:39:02



Other than the spotlight on the left side, is there any noticeable external
difference between a CF-18 and either the F/A-18 A or F/A-18C?

Thanks,

Don H.

 
 
 

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Post by Jeff » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:33:03


On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:39:02 -0500, "Don Harstad"

Quote:

>Other than the spotlight on the left side, is there any noticeable external
>difference between a CF-18 and either the F/A-18 A or F/A-18C?

Do you mean besides the "CANADA" and "Armed Forces/Forces Armees"
painted on the sides? There's no external difference from an -A model.
All of the antennas on the -C have to come off if you're making a
CF-18. Remove the two bumps behind the canopy, the bump on the nose
gear door, and the second bump from the bottom on each fin.

Some CF-18s have had the searchlight removed and there's nothing but a
blank grey plate behind the glass. See photos for details of the
aircraft you're modelling.

--
Jeff C
RLHD

 
 
 

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Post by Mike » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:15:34


Quote:

> Other than the spotlight on the left side, is there any noticeable external
> difference between a CF-18 and either the F/A-18 A or F/A-18C?

 While the CF-18's were bought as A's or B's I found that when
converting the Monogram C to a CF-18 that they was actually closer to a
C than an A in the panel layout. However, the main points to change if
converting a C/D to a CF-18 is to remove to two 'bumps' behind the
***pit, remove the center fairing of the three at the tip of the
vertical tail(the fourth fairing on the bottom is a fuel dump, I'm not
counting that) and there is a minor difference in the landing gear but I
can't think of what it is at the moment, I don't think I bothered with
it.
 The light can be there or not depending on the a/c and time period but
the panel is always there, just make a lens for a/c with it and scribe a
circle where the light would go and just paint it the same colour as the
rest of the panel for a/c without it.

--
Mike Dougherty
Toronto, Ontario
Canada

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Sauv » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:55:26


Unique to the CF-18 landing gear is that the big hydraulic shock absorber is a
different type and is mounted upside-down compared to the F-18A/C and the RAAF
F-18A.  In other words the shiny piston comes out the other way on the CF-18

Steve



Quote:
>Other than the spotlight on the left side, is there any noticeable external
>difference between a CF-18 and either the F/A-18 A or F/A-18C?

>Thanks,

>Don H.

Cheers,

Steve Sauve        (stephen.sauve'at'rogers.com)
IPMS Canada C#0323
IPMS Ottawa
Canada

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Post by Don Harsta » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:34:20



Quote:
> Unique to the CF-18 landing gear is that the big hydraulic shock absorber
is a
> different type and is mounted upside-down compared to the F-18A/C and the
RAAF
> F-18A.  In other words the shiny piston comes out the other way on the
CF-18

> Steve

 Fascinating.  I'll take precautions.  Would you happen to know why that is,
by the way?  Weather or snow covered runways have anything to do with it?

Don H.

 
 
 

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Post by RLHD » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 03:31:06


On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:39:02 -0500, "Don Harstad"

Quote:

>Other than the spotlight on the left side, is there any noticeable external
>difference between a CF-18 and either the F/A-18 A or F/A-18C?

>Thanks,

>Don H.

Did you have a look at my CF-18A/B walkaround yet? You'll find the
spotlight and the landing gear as well.

http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Hornet.html

RLHDLW
Keeper of the Megaliners
Tempel Achtern Diek

 
 
 

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Post by Rufu » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:50:05


Ok...a previous poster suggested that the shock absorbers (the big
cylinders on the aft side of the knee) on the main gear on CF Hornets
are mounted "upside down" from those on USN F/A-18's.  I just compared
your walk-around photos of a CF-18A to reference photos in my D&S F/A-18
Parts 1 & 2 and have noted the following:

a) The main gear on the CF Hornet in your photos is no different than
the ones in the photos of USN A/B jets in my D&S Part 1 book.

b) The main gear on the CF Hornet in your photos are no different than
the most of the ones in the photos of USN C/D jets in my D&S Part 2
book; HOWEVER - there are also shots of USN C/D jets with the "upside
down" shock absorbers in the same book!

Conclusion: there are TWO types of shock absorbers for the main gear on
the F/A-18A-D Hornet; CF and USN, and either type is correct as long as
they match.

AFAIK, the only noticable external difference between USN and CF A/B
Hornets is the ID light...but as always - check your references!

--
      -Rufus

Quote:

> On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:39:02 -0500, "Don Harstad"

>>Other than the spotlight on the left side, is there any noticeable external
>>difference between a CF-18 and either the F/A-18 A or F/A-18C?

>>Thanks,

>>Don H.

> Did you have a look at my CF-18A/B walkaround yet? You'll find the
> spotlight and the landing gear as well.

> http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Hornet.html

> RLHDLW
> Keeper of the Megaliners
> Tempel Achtern Diek

 
 
 

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Post by Don Harsta » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:32:25



Quote:
> Did you have a look at my CF-18A/B walkaround yet? You'll find the
> spotlight and the landing gear as well.

> http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Hornet.html

Nice shots.  Thanks.

Don H.

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Sauv » Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:13:23


My initial theory had something to do with land-based vs carrier based, but the
RAAF aircraft blew that theory to crap.  I actually know the people who know the
answer, but I'm away on a work trip for the next three weeks and won't be able
to go after this one.

Slightly off-topic, anybody know what the Spanish EF-18A main gear shock
absorber configuration is?

Steve



Quote:



>> Unique to the CF-18 landing gear is that the big hydraulic shock absorber
>is a
>> different type and is mounted upside-down compared to the F-18A/C and the
>RAAF
>> F-18A.  In other words the shiny piston comes out the other way on the
>CF-18

>> Steve
> Fascinating.  I'll take precautions.  Would you happen to know why that is,
>by the way?  Weather or snow covered runways have anything to do with it?

>Don H.

Cheers,

Steve Sauve        (stephen.sauve'at'rogers.com)
IPMS Canada C#0323
IPMS Ottawa
Canada

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Post by Steve Sauv » Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:13:24


Very nice digital rendering of the imagery!  Thanks for the link

Steve

Quote:

>On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:39:02 -0500, "Don Harstad"

>>Other than the spotlight on the left side, is there any noticeable external
>>difference between a CF-18 and either the F/A-18 A or F/A-18C?

>>Thanks,

>>Don H.

>Did you have a look at my CF-18A/B walkaround yet? You'll find the
>spotlight and the landing gear as well.

>http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Hornet.html

>RLHDLW
>Keeper of the Megaliners
>Tempel Achtern Diek

Cheers,

Steve Sauve        (stephen.sauve'at'rogers.com)
IPMS Canada C#0323
IPMS Ottawa
Canada

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Post by RLHD » Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:09:04


On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 22:13:23 GMT, Steve Sauve

Quote:

>My initial theory had something to do with land-based vs carrier based, but the
>RAAF aircraft blew that theory to crap.  I actually know the people who know the
>answer, but I'm away on a work trip for the next three weeks and won't be able
>to go after this one.

>Slightly off-topic, anybody know what the Spanish EF-18A main gear shock
>absorber configuration is?

The shiny side (piston) is down/forward, at least with aircraft 15-22
and 15-30 I took pix of at ILA 2002.

RLHDLW
Keeper of the Megaliners
Tempel Achtern Diek
http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages.html

 
 
 

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Post by Rufu » Mon, 17 Jun 2002 03:02:30


I've also found pictures of this configuration on US Hornets, so it's
not a strictly CF configuration - there are two types of shock absorbers
out there for A-D Hornets.  Spanish jets are not any different.

What I do remember is that Hornets which were sold to countries in which
they were to be land based only initially did not have the catapult
launch bar and associated hardware installed on the nose gear.  The
launch bar hardware was later installed for balance reasons.

--
      -Rufus

Quote:

> On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 22:13:23 GMT, Steve Sauve

>>My initial theory had something to do with land-based vs carrier based, but the
>>RAAF aircraft blew that theory to crap.  I actually know the people who know the
>>answer, but I'm away on a work trip for the next three weeks and won't be able
>>to go after this one.

>>Slightly off-topic, anybody know what the Spanish EF-18A main gear shock
>>absorber configuration is?

> The shiny side (piston) is down/forward, at least with aircraft 15-22
> and 15-30 I took pix of at ILA 2002.

> RLHDLW
> Keeper of the Megaliners
> Tempel Achtern Diek
> http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages.html