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please please help

Post by Lynnette Shar » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 21:13:43



PLEASE PLEASE can any one send us any unwanted cross stitch kits we are a
local disabled school for blind, deaf and dumb children and we have found a
way to try to make some money for the unfortunate in America and for the
poor kids left with out a parent on that terrible day on the 11th September
,my address is
L Dargie
7 Chapel Crescent
Carronshore
Falkirk
FK2 8DD
MANY MANY THANKS
 
 
 

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Post by Christin » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 01:20:52


I would think calling the "blind, deaf and DUMB" would be wrong.  Sounds a
little fishy to me.


Quote:
> PLEASE PLEASE can any one send us any unwanted cross stitch kits we are a
> local disabled school for blind, deaf and dumb children and we have found
a
> way to try to make some money for the unfortunate in America and for the
> poor kids left with out a parent on that terrible day on the 11th
September
> ,my address is
> L Dargie
> 7 Chapel Crescent
> Carronshore
> Falkirk
> FK2 8DD
> MANY MANY THANKS


 
 
 

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Post by Hardange » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 08:18:12



 
 
 

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Post by Bess » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 22:24:28


Quote:

> I would think calling the "blind, deaf and DUMB" would be wrong.  Sounds a
> little fishy to me.

That was my thought too.  If s/he is really working with these disabled
persons, one would think that s/he would use pc terminology.

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Post by Charlene Charett » Sat, 06 Oct 2001 09:20:27


Quote:


> > I would think calling the "blind, deaf and DUMB" would be wrong.  Sounds a
> > little fishy to me.

> That was my thought too.  If s/he is really working with these disabled
> persons, one would think that s/he would use pc terminology.

> Best Stitches,
> Bess

I was in London last March and was struck by how many signs there would
be utterly un-PC here.  Different countries, different cultures,
different norms.

--Charlene

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Post by Elbg » Sat, 06 Oct 2001 12:58:51


<< > I would think calling the "blind, deaf and DUMB" would be wrong.  Sounds a

Quote:
> little fishy to me.

That was my thought too.  If s/he is really working with these disabled
persons, one would think that s/he would use pc terminology.
 >>

Check your dictionary.  From my Webster's under the word dumb "1.Destitute of
the power of speech; speechless."   Betty

 
 
 

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Post by Bess » Sat, 06 Oct 2001 21:19:26


Quote:

> Check your dictionary.  From my Webster's under the word dumb "1.Destitute of
> the power of speech; speechless."

I don't think because it's in the dictionary, it's necessarily pc.

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Post by GARY L LIPPMA » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 04:11:31


PC has nothing to do with it, "dumb" means to lack the ability to speak; it
has meant this for a very long time.  Why would that be non-pc???  Because
some people do not know that "dumb" is not the same as "stupid"???

Quote:

> > Check your dictionary.  From my Webster's under the word dumb
"1.Destitute of
> > the power of speech; speechless."

> I don't think because it's in the dictionary, it's necessarily pc.

> Best Stitches,
> Bess

> Yahoo Group Tutorial
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ANN_Tutorial
> Contest entries, Stitch A Long, Newsletters, RR info, Needleroll info,
Band Sampler

> http://www.geocities.com/bess_of_hardwick/news1.html
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> http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/bess_of_hardwick
> Current rotation: Mother's Sampler, Jean Farish's America, Viking's Chess
Board,
> Ann Trabue Sampler, Napkins, Chatelaine's Mystery Project, Prairie
Schooler's
> Harvest Time, Hardanger Harmony from Issue 99 of New Stitches, assorted
RRs

 
 
 

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Post by Sharo » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 12:02:33


Any one who works with the disabled would no longer
refer to a person that cannot speak as "dumb" yes it is
in the dictionary  but it is not a term that is often used. People generally
refer to those that can't speak as being mute. It is one of those
words that people realized was tough on someones self esteem. Just
like people are now referred to as Disabled not Handicapped or
someone with Downs Syndrome is no longer referred to as a mongoloid.
With time people realize there are better ways to say things.
PCdoes have alot to do with it!

"> PC has nothing to do with it, "dumb" means to lack the ability to speak;
it

Quote:
> has meant this for a very long time.  Why would that be non-pc???  Because
> some people do not know that "dumb" is not the same as "stupid"???

> > > Check your dictionary.  From my Webster's under the word dumb
> "1.Destitute of
> > > the power of speech; speechless."

> > I don't think because it's in the dictionary, it's necessarily pc.

 
 
 

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Post by Mary » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 20:30:53


I can't imagine anyone using that word unless they're 100+ years old!
That's an old, antiquated term.  Word meanings and language in general are
very fluid.  You have to use words based on their current meaning, not what
they meant 100 years ago.  You wouldn't refer to a popular, attractive young
man today as a "gay blade" would you?  Yikes!!

MaryR

 
 
 

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Post by Pat Porte » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 21:06:21


There`s far too much stupidity coming out under the name of "pc" in my
opinion! Being called disabled doesn`t make me feel one jot better than
being called handicapped, for instance - and I resent the fact that
perfectly good words like "Gay" and "***" can`t be used now, because
people think it`s un-p.c. to use the proper word - ***. "Dumb"
meaning "Stupid" is an American thing, and is their problem.  Here dumb
means what the dictionary says - unable to speak.  Mute means silent, as in
unable to make a sound - not just unable to speak.  My best friend`s twin
sister is deaf and dumb, and she can make plenty of sounds!

We took my sister-in-law on holiday with us some time back, and oddly enough
Jean hurt her foot in the pool, and John slipped and fell by the pool,
twisting his knee badly. I limp in any case - but I was a lot worse then.
When we phoned to tell our brother-in-law whereabouts and what time to pick
us up from the airport we told him to just watch out for three old cripples!
Not three disabled or handicapped people!  It doesn`t bother me to be called
a cripple, disabled, handicapped or what you will! I was the only real
cripple there and I had to push the trolley while they leaned on it for
support!

The "Chairperson" thing drives me nuts too - or the current term "The
Chair!"  I find it pretty insulting to be referred to as a piece of
furniture - Chairman is fine, whatever the sex!  It`s just got so
ridiculous - all this women`s lib. etc. has a lot to answer for in sheer
verbal stupidity at least.

Go on, get out the flame throwers - I don`t care! Phooey!

Pat P


Quote:
> Any one who works with the disabled would no longer
> refer to a person that cannot speak as "dumb" yes it is
> in the dictionary  but it is not a term that is often used. People
generally
> refer to those that can't speak as being mute. It is one of those
> words that people realized was tough on someones self esteem. Just
> like people are now referred to as Disabled not Handicapped or
> someone with Downs Syndrome is no longer referred to as a mongoloid.
> With time people realize there are better ways to say things.
> PCdoes have alot to do with it!

> "> PC has nothing to do with it, "dumb" means to lack the ability to
speak;
> it
> > has meant this for a very long time.  Why would that be non-pc???
Because
> > some people do not know that "dumb" is not the same as "stupid"???

> > > > Check your dictionary.  From my Webster's under the word dumb
> > "1.Destitute of
> > > > the power of speech; speechless."

> > > I don't think because it's in the dictionary, it's necessarily pc.

 
 
 

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Post by Bess » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 20:57:08


Quote:

> PC has nothing to do with it, "dumb" means to lack the ability to speak; it
> has meant this for a very long time.

"Gay" meant "happy" for a long time.  That isn't it's primary meaning now.
Things change.

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Bess

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