OT: help with floorboards please?

OT: help with floorboards please?

Post by Kim Brow » Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:45:55



I know, I know! Needlework! But I can't imagine where to find an answer
to my question and various net searches have turned up nothing!

DH and I *foolishly* pulled up the horrible old virulently stinky carpet
from our bedroom floor. The bit where we peeked to inspect the floor
happened to be situated over a nice patch and you can imagine our horror
when we ripped up the whole carpet (thus destroying it, but that's no
loss) to expose a black japanned floor!

It's awful! It's black and *** and it smells and feels like paraffin
wax under your feet! The only good bit is that the wax or whatever it
was that made the finish has sealed the cracks between the floorboards
and thankfully prevented the breeze from blowing through...

My question is: can anyone point me toward a resource that will tell me
how to maintain or remove this black japanned finish? (Our
across-the-road neighbour, Lorraine, is an obligate restorer and is
doing a perfectly gorgeous job on her Victorian stone house. She
recognised our floors as 'black japan', but has no idea what we should
do next!)

Hoping *some*one out there can advise me...?

--
Trish {|:OI}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

PS Black japan was a floor finish popular about 100 years ago when our
house was built.

 
 
 

OT: help with floorboards please?

Post by Monique Ree » Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:59:49


Could you cover it with rolled vinyl or linoleum?

Monique

Quote:

> I know, I know! Needlework! But I can't imagine where to find an answer
> to my question and various net searches have turned up nothing!

> DH and I *foolishly* pulled up the horrible old virulently stinky carpet
> from our bedroom floor. The bit where we peeked to inspect the floor
> happened to be situated over a nice patch and you can imagine our horror
> when we ripped up the whole carpet (thus destroying it, but that's no
> loss) to expose a black japanned floor!

> It's awful! It's black and *** and it smells and feels like paraffin
> wax under your feet! The only good bit is that the wax or whatever it
> was that made the finish has sealed the cracks between the floorboards
> and thankfully prevented the breeze from blowing through...

> My question is: can anyone point me toward a resource that will tell me
> how to maintain or remove this black japanned finish? (Our
> across-the-road neighbour, Lorraine, is an obligate restorer and is
> doing a perfectly gorgeous job on her Victorian stone house. She
> recognised our floors as 'black japan', but has no idea what we should
> do next!)

> Hoping *some*one out there can advise me...?

> --
> Trish {|:OI}
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia

> PS Black japan was a floor finish popular about 100 years ago when our
> house was built.


 
 
 

OT: help with floorboards please?

Post by Pat Porte » Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:28:02


Sounds like you should hire a sander and get it all off with that and then
start all over with a stain/varnish.  Good luck - rather you than me!  Or go
to your local DIY store and get those thin wooden interlocking flooring
panels that stick to the floor and just cover the lot up.

Pat P.

--
East Anglian Xstitch Designs
http://www.FoundCollection.com/~porter
Old village scenes.


Quote:
> I know, I know! Needlework! But I can't imagine where to find an answer
> to my question and various net searches have turned up nothing!

> DH and I *foolishly* pulled up the horrible old virulently stinky carpet
> from our bedroom floor. The bit where we peeked to inspect the floor
> happened to be situated over a nice patch and you can imagine our horror
> when we ripped up the whole carpet (thus destroying it, but that's no
> loss) to expose a black japanned floor!

> It's awful! It's black and *** and it smells and feels like paraffin
> wax under your feet! The only good bit is that the wax or whatever it
> was that made the finish has sealed the cracks between the floorboards
> and thankfully prevented the breeze from blowing through...

> My question is: can anyone point me toward a resource that will tell me
> how to maintain or remove this black japanned finish? (Our
> across-the-road neighbour, Lorraine, is an obligate restorer and is
> doing a perfectly gorgeous job on her Victorian stone house. She
> recognised our floors as 'black japan', but has no idea what we should
> do next!)

> Hoping *some*one out there can advise me...?

> --
> Trish {|:OI}
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia

> PS Black japan was a floor finish popular about 100 years ago when our
> house was built.

 
 
 

OT: help with floorboards please?

Post by Bronwynne Cummin » Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:42:53


Quote:

> My question is: can anyone point me toward a resource that will tell me
> how to maintain or remove this black japanned finish? (Our
> across-the-road neighbour, Lorraine, is an obligate restorer and is
> doing a perfectly gorgeous job on her Victorian stone house. She
> recognised our floors as 'black japan', but has no idea what we should
> do next!)
> Hoping *some*one out there can advise me...?

Haven't found much on removing it, but there are heaps of
sites out there in relation to the maintenance of japanned
surfaces, not many however, relate that to floorboards...

Try this.. it may lead you somewhere:

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/ukic/fw/cn/72-3.htm

Or this... for an amazingly boring read...

http://www.alan.net/prgfeat/japanned.html

(just do a search for 'restoring japanned furniture' on
google.. or variations on that theme, you'll find a few
more)

Ciao for niao
--
Bronwynne Cumming
Melbourne, Australia...
and NO .. I haven't done a write up of the wedding yet, nor
have I scanned more pics... been too busy resting my poor
mangled knee and concentrating on stitching my lonesome
Tutankhamen..:( ... that reminds me.. ran out of floss from
the kit.. need more colours.. sigh...track down Permin
time..:(

 
 
 

OT: help with floorboards please?

Post by Meliny Hanse » Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:33:35


Quote:
> > It's awful! It's black and *** and it smells and feels like paraffin
> > wax under your feet! The only good bit is that the wax or whatever it
> > was that made the finish has sealed the cracks between the floorboards
> > and thankfully prevented the breeze from blowing through...

I'm not finding anything called Black Japan through google.com

My first thought with regard to black flooring, though, is asbestos.  It
wouldn't hurt to get it checked before you start messing with it and
potentially stirring up a health hazard.

   Meliny

 
 
 

OT: help with floorboards please?

Post by Tricia Hoo » Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:18:51


Trish,

I hit a similar scenario many years ago when doing much as you - uncovering
the dining room floor which had been carpeted.  It, as you said, was quite
common to black japan the floors back then, but in our case they obviously
used to have a floor rug and economised by only japanning the outer edges
which would have been all there was exposed to the eye!

I would presume that your floors are baltic pine, so to restore it you would
need to have it sanded and either varnished (with the appropriate floor
2-pack polyurethane - phewy, stink bomb!!), or alternatively with tung oil.
Dont bother staining, it's a waste as those lovely old timbers have a
gorgeous colour to them.  I've had most of the house done with the 2-pack
and it's come up beautifully and is quite resiliant to s***and scratches.
Sanding the floor is no easy feat so its best to get that part
professionally done otherwise you'll see exactly where the machine had been!

If you want more info email me direct.  We've had most of the house done bar
2 rooms.

Tricia
Wombat Creek Designs
Adelaide, South Australia
www.WombatCreekDesigns.com


Quote:

> > My question is: can anyone point me toward a resource that will tell me
> > how to maintain or remove this black japanned finish? (Our
> > across-the-road neighbour, Lorraine, is an obligate restorer and is
> > doing a perfectly gorgeous job on her Victorian stone house. She
> > recognised our floors as 'black japan', but has no idea what we should
> > do next!)
> > Hoping *some*one out there can advise me...?

 
 
 

OT: help with floorboards please?

Post by Pat Porte » Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:22:47


I remember that, when I was a kid (during the War). Dad used to give another
coat every so often, with Mum watching like a hawk to make sure he rolled
the carpet back far enough as he did it!  Very few people (if any) had
fitted carpets in those days.

Pat P.

--
East Anglian Xstitch Designs
http://www.FoundCollection.com/~porter
Old village scenes.

Quote:
> Trish,

> I hit a similar scenario many years ago when doing much as you -
uncovering
> the dining room floor which had been carpeted.  It, as you said, was quite
> common to black japan the floors back then, but in our case they obviously
> used to have a floor rug and economised by only japanning the outer edges
> which would have been all there was exposed to the eye!

> I would presume that your floors are baltic pine, so to restore it you
would
> need to have it sanded and either varnished (with the appropriate floor
> 2-pack polyurethane - phewy, stink bomb!!), or alternatively with tung
oil.
> Dont bother staining, it's a waste as those lovely old timbers have a
> gorgeous colour to them.  I've had most of the house done with the 2-pack
> and it's come up beautifully and is quite resiliant to s***and
scratches.
> Sanding the floor is no easy feat so its best to get that part
> professionally done otherwise you'll see exactly where the machine had
been!

> If you want more info email me direct.  We've had most of the house done
bar
> 2 rooms.

> Tricia
> Wombat Creek Designs
> Adelaide, South Australia
> www.WombatCreekDesigns.com




> > > My question is: can anyone point me toward a resource that will tell
me
> > > how to maintain or remove this black japanned finish? (Our
> > > across-the-road neighbour, Lorraine, is an obligate restorer and is
> > > doing a perfectly gorgeous job on her Victorian stone house. She
> > > recognised our floors as 'black japan', but has no idea what we should
> > > do next!)
> > > Hoping *some*one out there can advise me...?

 
 
 

OT: help with floorboards please?

Post by Tricia Hoo » Fri, 01 Feb 2002 12:41:44


Quote:
> I'm not finding anything called Black Japan through google.com

> My first thought with regard to black flooring, though, is asbestos.  It
> wouldn't hurt to get it checked before you start messing with it and
> potentially stirring up a health hazard.

>    Meliny

I dont know the full history of Black Japan, but it has been used as a wood
stain for a very, very long time now.  Many of the old homes here in
Australia japanned the floors, and it is still used today to give that
rustic look to new furniture (definitely 'in' for those who wish to acquire
antique or colonial furniture but can't afford it).  Thinned down it does
make a nice wood stain, but there are so many commercial 'colours' now that
they are much preferred.  At a guess I think it's bitumen based.

HTH,
Tricia
Wombat Creek Designs
Adelaide, South Australia
www.WombatCreekDesigns.com