Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by ELur » Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:41:53



So we're going to have two nickels next years. Good. So...

Does this mean that the purchasers of the "silver proof sets" as well as
everything else have three extra coins instead of two? Or are they going to do
something really sneaky like having the Schlag reverse on the nickel in order
to make a new "artificial" rarity?

Also, are they going to raise the price of the mint and proof sets
substantually in order to defray the costs of shipping the extra nickel?

...and finally, when are the nickels coming out? New coins usually come out in
early January [although I rarely see them until March, and this year I didn't
see anything except a very few state quarters until June

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by ELur » Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:51:37


...and finally, when are the nickels coming out? New coins usually come out in
early January [although I rarely see them until March, and this year I didn't
see anything except a very few state quarters until June] so why haven't they
shown the galvanos in the press confrence? They should exist by now and they
should have had at least a few test strikes of the handshake design, right?

oh well....

eric l.

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by J. A. M » Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:45:13


What is your shoe size?

What is your favorite color?

JAM

Quote:

> ...and finally, when are the nickels coming out? New coins usually come out in
> early January [although I rarely see them until March, and this year I didn't
> see anything except a very few state quarters until June] so why haven't they
> shown the galvanos in the press confrence? They should exist by now and they
> should have had at least a few test strikes of the handshake design, right?

> oh well....

> eric l.

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by Coin Sav » Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:23:18


Quote:
>From: elurio
> when are the nickels coming out?>

According to the press release, one design in the Spring, and the other in the
Fall.

8-/

Coin Saver

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by Dogg » Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:16:01




Quote:
> What is your shoe size?

> What is your favorite color?

> JAM

Red..No blue!..ahhhh!

Ed
'Monty'

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by Shystev » Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:46:27


Quote:
>So we're going to have two nickels next years. Good. So...

>Does this mean that the purchasers of the "silver proof sets" as well as
>everything else have three extra coins instead of two? Or are they going to
>do
>something really sneaky like having the Schlag reverse on the nickel in order
>to make a new "artificial" rarity?

>Also, are they going to raise the price of the mint and proof sets
>substantually in order to defray the costs of shipping the extra nickel?

>...and finally, when are the nickels coming out? New coins usually come out
>in
>early January [although I rarely see them until March, and this year I didn't
>see anything except a very few state quarters until June

I don't know all that much about it and am FAR from being an expert but just
from what I have read and heard there is a spring coin and a fall coin, This
alone makes me suspicious neither will be in the proof set. I have a feeling
they may mint regular nickels as long as they possibly can and use those in the
sets, That way they still have technically a full proof set with a legal
nickel, Then turn around and sell the special nickels in their own 2 coin set.
That may irritate we the collectors but it makes sense from them the sellers
standpoint, Why sell 1 proof set with all the coins when you can force us to
buy 2? And collecting demand is higher than its ever been so it would kind of
be foolish not to atleast try something sneaky like that.
I don't think there is any rule or law that says the coins must be in the proof
set, look at 1999 as an example, The SBA Dollar was a legitimate legal coin but
was not included in the proof set...(I don't think it was anyway)
Only other alternative I can think of is if they make 2 seperate proof sets, A
spring set and a fall set. Doubtful, but again it's all about the $$ at the end
of the day. And if they know we the collectors will buy 2 sets then what is
stopping them?
I'd love to see both nickels in the standard proof set package but just have a
sneaky feeling it aint gonna happen.
The Spring Release and Fall Release just make me suspicious because it leaves
January  through spring open for regular nickels to be minted and set aside for
the proof sets.
But like I said I'm no expert. And I honestly haven't read that much about it.
Steve
 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by Alan & Erin William » Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:33:31


Quote:

> >So we're going to have two nickels next years. Good. So...

> >Does this mean that the purchasers of the "silver proof sets" as well as
> >everything else have three extra coins instead of two? Or are they going to
> >do
> >something really sneaky like having the Schlag reverse on the nickel in order
> >to make a new "artificial" rarity?

> >Also, are they going to raise the price of the mint and proof sets
> >substantually in order to defray the costs of shipping the extra nickel?

> >...and finally, when are the nickels coming out? New coins usually come out
> >in
> >early January [although I rarely see them until March, and this year I didn't
> >see anything except a very few state quarters until June

> I don't know all that much about it and am FAR from being an expert but just
> from what I have read and heard there is a spring coin and a fall coin, This
> alone makes me suspicious neither will be in the proof set.

FWIW, I thought that part of the 'delay' until 2004 was that the Mint
was in a quandry about how to package/distribute/offer the alternate
nickel reverses since Mint and Proof set production was already under
way.  

I expect that all the reverses for each year will be in the Mint sets
and Proof sets when offered for 2004 and beyond.

Alan
'no mid-year surprises'

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by Jerry Denn » Sun, 09 Nov 2003 23:10:18


My gut feeling is that the 2004 proof sets will contain 10 coins (cent, both
nickels, dime, five SQs, and half) with no Sacs being minted.

If you look at the State Quarters, the mint strikes the proofs long before the
circs are released.  I'd imagine the mint will strike (or already has struck)
proof versions of both nickels and will include them in the proof sets.

Jerry

"Shy Steve" writes, in part:

Quote:
>Only other alternative I can think of is if they make 2 seperate proof sets,
>A
>spring set and a fall set. Doubtful, but again it's all about the $$ at the
>end
>of the day. And if they know we the collectors will buy 2 sets then what is
>stopping them?
>I'd love to see both nickels in the standard proof set package but just have
>a
>sneaky feeling it aint gonna happen.
>The Spring Release and Fall Release just make me suspicious because it leaves
>January  through spring open for regular nickels to be minted and set aside
>for
>the proof sets.
>But like I said I'm no expert. And I honestly haven't read that much about
>it.
>Steve

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by DFloy » Sun, 09 Nov 2003 23:30:43




Quote:
> I expect that all the reverses for each year will be in the Mint sets
> and Proof sets when offered for 2004 and beyond.

I hope you are correct.
It depends on whether the Mint focuses on a short term (increase sales) or
long term (expand customer base) marketing strategy. If they try to
increase their sales figures by playing with the sets or creating a
separate nickel set it may cost them customers in the long run.
 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by Shystev » Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:39:06


Quote:
>If you look at the State Quarters, the mint strikes the proofs long before
>the
>circs are released.  I'd imagine the mint will strike (or already has struck)
>proof versions of both nickels and will include them in the proof sets.

Yeah but at the same time with the State Quarters the mint places all the
standard coins on one slab and all the quarters on a different slab, Which
makes me suspect the nickels will also be packaged seperatley. I would love to
see both nickels on the proof set but just have a gut feeling we may not.
I'm not a diehard coin collector but just out of curiousity are there any other
proof sets (OTHER than the current state quarters) where 1 coin denomination
was minted with multiple designs where all the designs were included in 1 set?
Only other year I can think of off the top of my head is 1976, (Even then I
think it was just 1 design the bicentennial quarter, Did they do regular Eagle
Quarters that year as well?) They minted the regular proof sets the silver
proof sets and then a 3rd 3 piece seperate bicentennial silver proof set. And
since these nickels are designed to honor the Louisiana Purchase then it sounds
like it will be boxed seperatley like that 3 piece set in 76. Hope I'm wrong
though
I don't know if they would lose alot of customers, People may be irritated but
at the end of the day even if the nickels were packaged seperatley I suspect
most of us would buy them, Hell some people might prefer they be boxed
seperatley. I don't know if I would want them seperate or not.....Just 1 more
thing to have to decide to buy or not. lol
Steve
 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by swif.. » Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:36:26


In 1942, the mint came out with a one nickel proof set and a two nickel
proof set.

One would think that in the past 60 years the mint should be able to
come up with a packaging that would hold 2 nickels.  But since they were
not able to come out with a 2003 nickel like originally planned, who
knows what they are going to do.

I think they should put both nickels in the proof and mint sets.  They
could do the same thing they did with the Roosevelt "S" dime in the 1996
mint set and stick it in there separately.

bob

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by Dale Hallmar » Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:52:11



Quote:
> In 1942, the mint came out with a one nickel proof set and a two nickel
> proof set.

> One would think that in the past 60 years the mint should be able to
> come up with a packaging that would hold 2 nickels.  But since they were
> not able to come out with a 2003 nickel like originally planned, who
> knows what they are going to do.

> I think they should put both nickels in the proof and mint sets.

I think they should too but................
I also think that they will use this as an opportunity to make some extra
money.
I think they will sell the Nickels separately like the 1999 Anthony but if
they do put them in the
mint and proof sets then I think they will sell the uncirculated nickels by
the bag and roll.

I think they should sell all denominations by the bag and roll but I don't
much like their prices
for the rolls they do sell.

We will  see.

Dale

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by Ken Bar » Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:18:56


In article

Quote:

> In 1942, the mint came out with a one nickel proof set and a two nickel
> proof set.

Proof coins were sold individually back in 1942.  A collector
could buy any quantity of any denomination and put together
"sets" as her or she saw fit.  The quoted figure of "21,120"
for 1942 proof sets is based on the lowest mintage, for the
Walking Liberty half doller.  (The nickel nickel had a mintage
of 29,600 and the silver nickel had a mintage of 27,600, FWIW.)

Quote:
> One would think that in the past 60 years the mint should be able to
> come up with a packaging that would hold 2 nickels.  But since they were
> not able to come out with a 2003 nickel like originally planned, who
> knows what they are going to do.

Unless they've already ordered and paid for the plastic inserts to
be used in the 2004 proof sets, they should be able to accomodate
the new coin fairly easily.  (And I HOPE they were smart enough to
delay this order until the release plans were finalized!)

Quote:
> I think they should put both nickels in the proof and mint sets.  They
> could do the same thing they did with the Roosevelt "S" dime in the 1996
> mint set and stick it in there separately.

I'm sure you meant the Roosevelt "W" dime in the 1996 mint set ...

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Post by LeRo » Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:17:01


Quote:

> In 1942, the mint came out with a one nickel proof set and a two nickel
> proof set.

> One would think that in the past 60 years the mint should be able to
> come up with a packaging that would hold 2 nickels.  But since they were
> not able to come out with a 2003 nickel like originally planned, who
> knows what they are going to do.

The 2003 nickel was release on Friday the 7 at 3:30 EST.  Check the US Mint site.
Quote:

> I think they should put both nickels in the proof and mint sets.  They
> could do the same thing they did with the Roosevelt "S" dime in the 1996
> mint set and stick it in there separately.

> bob

 
 
 

Mint sets, proof sets etc. for the year 2004

Post by ELur » Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:10:49


<< he 2003 nickel was release on Friday the 7 at 3:30 EST.  Check the US Mint
site. >><BR><BR>

Hardeedharhar. >P

eric l.