Can anyone advise me on how to tell the difference between Variety I and

Variety II for the 1979 and 1981 Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars?

Thanks!

gjt

Can anyone advise me on how to tell the difference between Variety I and

Variety II for the 1979 and 1981 Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars?

Thanks!

gjt

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>Subject: Question on SBA Dollars

>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 06:51:51 -0500

>Can anyone advise me on how to tell the difference between Variety I and

>Variety II for the 1979 and 1981 Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars?

>Thanks!

>gjt

blob. The Ty-2 have a clear "S".

John

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> Can anyone advise me on how to tell the difference between Variety I and

> Variety II for the 1979 and 1981 Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars?

1979-S type 1 proofs have a blob of a mint mark. 1979-S

type 2 proofs have a nice sharp mint mark, the same as you

see on 1980-S proofs. The recesses of a 1979-S type 2 proof

may be filled or clear, the 1979-S type 1 proofs general

have the recesses of the S filled (on the coin, not the die).

The difference between these two is pretty obvious under 6x

magnification.

1981-S type 1 proofs have that same sharp mint mark as

1979-S type 2 proofs, although the punch is a bit more worn.

1981-S type 2 proofs have a different sharp mint mark with

larger serifs and an assymetric shape. Either of these mint

marks may have filled or clear recesses. The difference between

these two is a little difficult to ID, and a side-by-side

comparison is recommended along with a 10x magnifier, to be

sure. Just remember that all 1980-S proofs have the same mm

as the 1981-S type 1 proofs.

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> > Can anyone advise me on how to tell the difference between Variety I and

> > Variety II for the 1979 and 1981 Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars?

> This oughta be in the FAQ. Chuck D'Ambra, are you listening?

That would be new territory for the FAQ, but given how frequently

it's being asked, sounds like it'd be a good addition. The only

problem is there seems to be some disagreement on the correct

diagnostics for the 1981 type 2. I'd like to see a consensus

first.

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This is simply not true!!!! Please do some research before posting

silly answers like this one!!! We just finished a rather involved

thread on this very subject. Gino apologized for his mistake, which

was almost exactly like your "explanation." We do not need anyone to

muddy the waters with silliness. Sorry for flying off the handle, but

your posts seem to be the answers not of an experienced numismatist,

but guesses of a newbie. Sheesh! Aram (Bustpoet)

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>>Subject: Question on SBA Dollars

>>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 06:51:51 -0500

>>Can anyone advise me on how to tell the difference between Variety I and

>>Variety II for the 1979 and 1981 Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars?

>>Thanks!

>>gjt

>Both the 79 & 81 TY I have the "S" filled in and as a result it looks like a

>blob. The Ty-2 have a clear "S".

>John

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Regardless of their pricing structure, one good thing "Southern

Investments" (the coin dealer) has going for it is a *GREAT* comparison

photograph at the back of their catalog. Seems Ive also seen these

photos somewhere else also.

Herb Schmitt

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> > > Can anyone advise me on how to tell the difference between Variety I and

> > > Variety II for the 1979 and 1981 Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars?

> > This oughta be in the FAQ. Chuck D'Ambra, are you listening?

> Lurking and listening, yes.

I have looked at many SBA proofs and have found that there may have been in

my opinion 4 punches used. Any input will be appreciated. I will explain

my findings below:

1979-S Proof Type I-The "S' is a blob, probably from a well worn punch

(also used on business strikes) (also called filled "S").

1979-S Proof Type II-The "S" is very clear and well rounded. The bottom

tail of the "S" appears to be away from the center loop just a little more

than the top extremity (also called clear "S").

1981-S Proof Type I-The "S" is very distinguishable in the fact that it

looks like a figure "8" with both extremities filled between the center of

the "S" (but not always). The Redbook list this as the same punch as the

79-S Type II but I'm not exactly sure if this is true. Could this be a

worn punch from the 79-80 coins or is this a new punch? (also used on

business strikes) (also called filled "S").

1981-S Proof Type II-The "S" is not well rounded and the center loop

appears to be straight rather than curved. The extremities appear to be

heavier at the ends and more so on the bottom. The extremities are usually

open from the center (but not always). When looking at the bottom

extremity of the "S" it appears to go beyond the upper curve of the "S".

(also called clear "S").

In my opinion the confussion between the 1981-S type I and II being clear

or filled comes from how hard the punch was struck or how much the punch

was worn. The two "S's" are distinctly different and this should be the

determining factor.

John

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> > > Can anyone advise me on how to tell the difference between Variety I

and

> > > Variety II for the 1979 and 1981 Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars?

> > This oughta be in the FAQ. Chuck D'Ambra, are you listening?

> Lurking and listening, yes.

> That would be new territory for the FAQ, but given how frequently

> it's being asked, sounds like it'd be a good addition. The only

> problem is there seems to be some disagreement on the correct

> diagnostics for the 1981 type 2. I'd like to see a consensus

> first.

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