Type Set question - dreaming?

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by carrie trookma » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:02:11



Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
How would you put one together?

Give all the money to Ira, and say "make me drool"?
Rules are no denomination greater than a silver dollar, coins must be
graded.
Would you spend a proportionate amount increasing with each denomination, or
would you look for the best "deal" on a high grade coin on E-Bay, based on
your personal preference.  Any insight appreciated.
Nate

 
 
 

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by from West of the Pec » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:53:45


Quote:

>Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
>How would you put one together?

I would take my money and Mint State copies of Truth Machine and First Immortal
to Heritage.

I would not even expect to walk out with a complete set. Rather, I would leave
my money there and ask them to finish the set up for me within the constraints
and let me know when they are done.

Alternatively, I would go up the street to the first coin store, buy everything
right now in Good and keep the balance of the cash.  (Can I do that?)

If you have that kind of money, then you are looking for Mint State Keys and
keeping an eye out for errors and varieties.  
I guess it is an okay way to spend your time.

----------------------------
Tradurre e tradire.
---------------------------

 
 
 

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by David B » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:06:06



Quote:
> Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
> How would you put one together?

> Give all the money to Ira, and say "make me drool"?

That would work :P

Quote:
> Rules are no denomination greater than a silver dollar, coins must be
> graded.
> Would you spend a proportionate amount increasing with each denomination,
> or
> would you look for the best "deal" on a high grade coin on E-Bay, based on
> your personal preference.  Any insight appreciated.

I would do that but thats just me,  like this :   a month or so ago i baught
some silver halfs and in the tube ( i baught them for ther silver, they wear
worn alot) and in the tube was a nice 1965 about MS-65 with a mark on it
that looks like another coin hit it,  but i havent been that lucky agin for
awile :P

David B.

 
 
 

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by John Carne » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:15:44



Quote:
> Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
> How would you put one together?

If you're talking about $25K for a type set sans gold and commemoratives, I
would
look for key dates of each series in a grade that would allow me to stay on
budget. I
would attend shows, search Teletrade and ebay and contact major dealers for
help.

--
John

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Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by Jorg Luek » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:00:06



Quote:
> Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
> How would you put one together?

> Give all the money to Ira, and say "make me drool"?
> Rules are no denomination greater than a silver dollar, coins must be
> graded.
> Would you spend a proportionate amount increasing with each denomination,
or
> would you look for the best "deal" on a high grade coin on E-Bay, based on
> your personal preference.  Any insight appreciated.
> Nate

Umm, how much do proof peace dollars go for?
 
 
 

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by Anthony Carlisl » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:22:13



Quote:

> Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
> How would you put one together?

> Give all the money to Ira, and say "make me drool"?
> Rules are no denomination greater than a silver dollar, coins must be
> graded.
> Would you spend a proportionate amount increasing with each denomination, or
> would you look for the best "deal" on a high grade coin on E-Bay, based on
> your personal preference.  Any insight appreciated.
> Nate

When I joined the ANA I received a booklet, "Assembling the Ideal
20th-Century Typw Set" by David W. Lange.  Lange has recommendations
for (among other things) which coin in each classification typically
has the strongest strike.  I think I would start with this book, and
dealers recommended by RCCers, and build the set from the cents up. I'm
patient, so it could take a few years, but eventually I'd either have a
complete set (as defined by Lange) or be out of money.

--
Antho

Anthony Carlisle * ANA #R192251 * APS #194515 * The opinions posted here are
mine alone, and do not necessarily reflect those of any sane person.

 
 
 

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by George » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:06:28


Quote:

> Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
> How would you put one together?

> Give all the money to Ira, and say "make me drool"?
> Rules are no denomination greater than a silver dollar, coins must be
> graded.
> Would you spend a proportionate amount increasing with each denomination, or
> would you look for the best "deal" on a high grade coin on E-Bay, based on
> your personal preference.  Any insight appreciated.
> Nate

First of all I would make a list of what MY type set would contain.

Than I would determine what grade level I wanted it to be. Do I want best examples, Key Dates, Toned
or white and red.

Than using various price lists I would find out what exact coins I wanted. Than go looking and see
how many coins I could get for that money.

A quick list would be

        Indian Cent
        Lincoln Wheat, VDB
        Lincoln no VDB
        Lincoln Steel
        Lincoln Memorial
        Lincoln Zinc

        Liberty Nickel
        Buffalo on mound
        Buffalo Recessed
        Jefferson 5 cent
        Jefferson War

        Barber Dime    
        Mercury Dime
        Roosevelt Silver dime
        Roosevelt Clad dime

        Barber Quarter
        Standing Liberty T1 (1917p MS60 - $150.00 MS65FH - $1457)
                            (1916 MS65FH $23500)        
        Standing Liberty T2
        Washington silver
        Washington Clad
                BiCentennial
                5 state quarters
                5 more State if you include 2000

        Barber Half
        Walking Liberty
        Franklin Half
        Kennedy 90%
        Kennedy 40%
        Kennedy Clad
                BiCentennial

        Morgan Dollar
        Peace Dollar
        Ike Dollar
                Silver Clad
                BiCentennial Clad
                BiCentennial Silver Clad
        SBA
        GD if you include the year 2000 as in your 19th Century set

Indented items are of course optional.

Now if your Desire is to have nice circulation or MS 60 we can have a darn good party on what's left
over. OTOH you can blow all of it on one coin see example above. Prices from Trends.

Someone else can do the MS 65 or best example costs

--
George D
Phoenix, AZ

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Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by Stujo » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:21:52



trookman spoke thusly...

Quote:
> Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
> How would you put one together?

> Give all the money to Ira, and say "make me drool"?
> Rules are no denomination greater than a silver dollar, coins must be
> graded.
> Would you spend a proportionate amount increasing with each denomination, or
> would you look for the best "deal" on a high grade coin on E-Bay, based on
> your personal preference.  Any insight appreciated.
> Nate

I would put together two sets:

One would be all AU58 Common Dates.

The other would be the lowest grade, but still identifiable, example
that I could find for each type.

All would be bought raw or cracked out of slabs and displayed raw in
special type set holders that I would have custom made for the
purpose...preferably something that could be hung on a wall or
displayed on a shelf.

I pocket the other 20-plus Grand or take a cross country trip hitting
every major coin show and museum that exists. :-)

--
Stu Miller
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Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by John Carne » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:41:10



Cent

Quote:
> Lincoln Wheat, VDB
> Lincoln no VDB
> Lincoln Steel
> Lincoln Memorial
> Lincoln Zinc

> Liberty Nickel
> Buffalo on mound
> Buffalo Recessed
> Jefferson 5 cent
> Jefferson War

> Barber Dime
> Mercury Dime
> Roosevelt Silver dime
> Roosevelt Clad dime

> Barber Quarter
> Standing Liberty T1 (1917p MS60 - $150.00 MS65FH - $1457)
>     (1916 MS65FH $23500)
> Standing Liberty T2
> Washington silver
> Washington Clad
> BiCentennial
> 5 state quarters
> 5 more State if you include 2000

> Barber Half
> Walking Liberty
> Franklin Half
> Kennedy 90%
> Kennedy 40%
> Kennedy Clad
> BiCentennial

> Morgan Dollar
> Peace Dollar
>   Ike Dollar
> Silver Clad
> BiCentennial Clad
> BiCentennial Silver Clad
> SBA
> GD if you include the year 2000 as in your 19th Century

set

The only change I would make is to include both Types of Ike
dollar.

--
John

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Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by Barry » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 04:49:13


On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:41:10 -0500, "John Carney"

Quote:


>Cent
>> Lincoln Wheat, VDB
>> Lincoln no VDB
>> Lincoln Steel
>> Lincoln Memorial
>> Lincoln Zinc

>> Liberty Nickel
>> Buffalo on mound
>> Buffalo Recessed
>> Jefferson 5 cent
>> Jefferson War

>> Barber Dime
>> Mercury Dime
>> Roosevelt Silver dime
>> Roosevelt Clad dime

>> Barber Quarter
>> Standing Liberty T1 (1917p MS60 - $150.00 MS65FH - $1457)
>>     (1916 MS65FH $23500)
>> Standing Liberty T2
>> Washington silver
>> Washington Clad
>> BiCentennial
>> 5 state quarters
>> 5 more State if you include 2000

>> Barber Half
>> Walking Liberty
>> Franklin Half
>> Kennedy 90%
>> Kennedy 40%
>> Kennedy Clad
>> BiCentennial

>> Morgan Dollar
>> Peace Dollar
>>   Ike Dollar
>> Silver Clad
>> BiCentennial Clad
>> BiCentennial Silver Clad
>> SBA
>> GD if you include the year 2000 as in your 19th Century
>set

>The only change I would make is to include both Types of Ike
>dollar.

>--
>John

You mean the Ugly and Uglier types? :.)
Barry
--
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Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by Ed E » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:08:10


George to be fair, you need two of these, the with and without cents models. :)
Ed

<<Lincoln Wheat, VDB
Lincoln no VDB
Liberty Nickel
Buffalo on mound
Buffalo Recessed >>

 
 
 

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by Mike Lock » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:12:39


Of course, each individual needs to decide what they include in their set.
I prefer to include all design changes, no matter how tiny.  Otherwise, it
would make more sense to go for only major design changes and the most
beautiful coins you can locate.  Question if planchet variations struck from
the same design as other years used is a type.  Question is non-circulating
issues belong in the set (if you include silver Ike's then maybe a silver
eagle should be included too...)

VDB or not on the 1909 Lincoln cent is a minor change, if perhaps well
publicized.  The VDB was restored to a different location at a later year,
and many tweaks to the design occured over the years.  Likewise for
Jefferson nickels, Washington quarters, and Kennedy halves: there were a lot
of minor tweaks made over the years.  You can find my attempt to list all of
the 20th century design tweaks at
http://users.scronline.com/locke/20thcentury.txt

Note that a 1916 Standing Liberty quarter is a 1 year design tweak, and the
most expensive coin in the "all tweaks" set.

--

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        SPPN life member, Australian N.S. #1747, CNA #19309

Visit http://users.scronline.com/lockem for Calgold info and other stuff


Quote:


> > Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
> > How would you put one together?

> > Give all the money to Ira, and say "make me drool"?
> > Rules are no denomination greater than a silver dollar, coins must be
> > graded.
> > Would you spend a proportionate amount increasing with each
denomination, or
> > would you look for the best "deal" on a high grade coin on E-Bay, based
on
> > your personal preference.  Any insight appreciated.
> > Nate

> First of all I would make a list of what MY type set would contain.

> Than I would determine what grade level I wanted it to be. Do I want best

examples, Key Dates, Toned
Quote:
> or white and red.

> Than using various price lists I would find out what exact coins I wanted.

Than go looking and see

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> how many coins I could get for that money.

> A quick list would be

> Indian Cent
> Lincoln Wheat, VDB
> Lincoln no VDB
> Lincoln Steel
> Lincoln Memorial
> Lincoln Zinc

> Liberty Nickel
> Buffalo on mound
> Buffalo Recessed
> Jefferson 5 cent
> Jefferson War

> Barber Dime
> Mercury Dime
> Roosevelt Silver dime
> Roosevelt Clad dime

> Barber Quarter
> Standing Liberty T1 (1917p MS60 - $150.00 MS65FH - $1457)
>     (1916 MS65FH $23500)
> Standing Liberty T2
> Washington silver
> Washington Clad
> BiCentennial
> 5 state quarters
> 5 more State if you include 2000

> Barber Half
> Walking Liberty
> Franklin Half
> Kennedy 90%
> Kennedy 40%
> Kennedy Clad
> BiCentennial

> Morgan Dollar
> Peace Dollar
>   Ike Dollar
> Silver Clad
> BiCentennial Clad
> BiCentennial Silver Clad
> SBA
> GD if you include the year 2000 as in your 19th Century set

> Indented items are of course optional.

> Now if your Desire is to have nice circulation or MS 60 we can have a darn

good party on what's left

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> over. OTOH you can blow all of it on one coin see example above. Prices
from Trends.

> Someone else can do the MS 65 or best example costs

> --
> George D
> Phoenix, AZ

>  The reward for a good deed is to have done it.

> Please use this address to mail me. Or remove the arizona in the link.
> Remember there is no Arizona.

> ALL emails incoming and outgoing are run thru Norton and AVG anti virus.

 
 
 

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by George » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:44:26


Quote:

> George to be fair, you need two of these, the with and without cents models. :)
> Ed

> <<Lincoln Wheat, VDB
> Lincoln no VDB
> Liberty Nickel
> Buffalo on mound
> Buffalo Recessed >>

Is that with cents and without cents or with cents and nonsense.
--
George D
Phoenix, AZ

 The reward for a good deed is to have done it.

Please use this address to mail me. Or remove the arizona in the link.
Remember there is no Arizona.

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Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by carrie trookma » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:39:56


I think I would rather have fewer, high grade coins of each major design.
How many coins should be in the type set?  I think fewer, high grade coins
would be in my type set.

Would you choose a high grade example of the "key" to each major design, or
the highest possible grade of a common date?
I think I would prefer the highest graded example of the "type" of coin.
Nate


Quote:

> Of course, each individual needs to decide what they include in their set.
> I prefer to include all design changes, no matter how tiny.  Otherwise, it
> would make more sense to go for only major design changes and the most
> beautiful coins you can locate.  Question if planchet variations struck
from
> the same design as other years used is a type.  Question is
non-circulating
> issues belong in the set (if you include silver Ike's then maybe a silver
> eagle should be included too...)

> VDB or not on the 1909 Lincoln cent is a minor change, if perhaps well
> publicized.  The VDB was restored to a different location at a later year,
> and many tweaks to the design occured over the years.  Likewise for
> Jefferson nickels, Washington quarters, and Kennedy halves: there were a
lot
> of minor tweaks made over the years.  You can find my attempt to list all
of
> the 20th century design tweaks at
> http://users.scronline.com/locke/20thcentury.txt

> Note that a 1916 Standing Liberty quarter is a 1 year design tweak, and
the
> most expensive coin in the "all tweaks" set.

> --

> Mike is EAC #4357, LSCC #1636, JRCS #841, ANA #R-170301, CCS #F11
>         SPPN life member, Australian N.S. #1747, CNA #19309

> Visit http://users.scronline.com/lockem for Calgold info and other stuff




> > > Let's say you had $25,000 to spend on a 20th century type set.
> > > How would you put one together?

> > > Give all the money to Ira, and say "make me drool"?
> > > Rules are no denomination greater than a silver dollar, coins must be
> > > graded.
> > > Would you spend a proportionate amount increasing with each
> denomination, or
> > > would you look for the best "deal" on a high grade coin on E-Bay,
based
> on
> > > your personal preference.  Any insight appreciated.
> > > Nate

> > First of all I would make a list of what MY type set would contain.

> > Than I would determine what grade level I wanted it to be. Do I want
best
> examples, Key Dates, Toned
> > or white and red.

> > Than using various price lists I would find out what exact coins I
wanted.
> Than go looking and see
> > how many coins I could get for that money.

> > A quick list would be

> > Indian Cent
> > Lincoln Wheat, VDB
> > Lincoln no VDB
> > Lincoln Steel
> > Lincoln Memorial
> > Lincoln Zinc

> > Liberty Nickel
> > Buffalo on mound
> > Buffalo Recessed
> > Jefferson 5 cent
> > Jefferson War

> > Barber Dime
> > Mercury Dime
> > Roosevelt Silver dime
> > Roosevelt Clad dime

> > Barber Quarter
> > Standing Liberty T1 (1917p MS60 - $150.00 MS65FH - $1457)
> >     (1916 MS65FH $23500)
> > Standing Liberty T2
> > Washington silver
> > Washington Clad
> > BiCentennial
> > 5 state quarters
> > 5 more State if you include 2000

> > Barber Half
> > Walking Liberty
> > Franklin Half
> > Kennedy 90%
> > Kennedy 40%
> > Kennedy Clad
> > BiCentennial

> > Morgan Dollar
> > Peace Dollar
> >   Ike Dollar
> > Silver Clad
> > BiCentennial Clad
> > BiCentennial Silver Clad
> > SBA
> > GD if you include the year 2000 as in your 19th Century set

> > Indented items are of course optional.

> > Now if your Desire is to have nice circulation or MS 60 we can have a
darn
> good party on what's left
> > over. OTOH you can blow all of it on one coin see example above. Prices
> from Trends.

> > Someone else can do the MS 65 or best example costs

> > --
> > George D
> > Phoenix, AZ

> >  The reward for a good deed is to have done it.

> > Please use this address to mail me. Or remove the arizona in the link.
> > Remember there is no Arizona.

> > ALL emails incoming and outgoing are run thru Norton and AVG anti virus.

 
 
 

Type Set question - dreaming?

Post by Clif » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:54:31


My type set (or should I say my daughter's type set) is housed in a
Dansco album and we collect to fill that album.  I'm very happy with
the presentation that it gives and we try for high grade examples of
common date type coins.  The only really strange quirk with the Dansco
is the slot for the 4 classic commems and the 1 slot of a moderm $1
commen.  I have some nice classics in the holes since I could never
afford a whole set of even type set of those coins in any condition.
Key to the whole collecting experience is to find what you like and
collect it and house it how you like and don't let what the "majority"
does sway you from your collecting interest.
Cliff