1913-s type 1 or type II?

1913-s type 1 or type II?

Post by oly » Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:42:21



oh ***, its a type II.  Not on a mound at all.

If you can't tell, you shouldn't be spending this kind of $$$

oly natus illiniorum

 
 
 

1913-s type 1 or type II?

Post by Jeff Lando » Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:51:12


Tell me something -

First of all, why do you feel that foul language is necessary to answer this
person's question?

Secondly, why did you post your reponse in triplicate?

You'll wear out your welcome here VERY fast this way.


Quote:
> oh ***, its a type II.  Not on a mound at all.

> If you can't tell, you shouldn't be spending this kind of $$$

> oly natus illiniorum


 
 
 

1913-s type 1 or type II?

Post by J. Crato » Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:16:23


Quote:

> Tell me something -

> First of all, why do you feel that foul language is necessary to answer this
> person's question?

> Secondly, why did you post your reponse in triplicate?

> You'll wear out your welcome here VERY fast this way.



>>oh ***, its a type II.  Not on a mound at all.

>>If you can't tell, you shouldn't be spending this kind of $$$

>>oly natus illiniorum

Jeff, he's been trollin' for years but he goes in spurts.

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1913-s type 1 or type II?

Post by Ira Stei » Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:28:06


Right you are, James.

An extremely depceptive way these are counterfeited is by taking a
common P-mint 1912 Type 2, drilling a hole in the edge and inserting a
special tool that with a few hundred blows pushes out the mintmark into
the appropriate area of the coin, The hole is then filled and smoothed
til it matches the edge of the coin. Examination of the mintmark will
not reveal a seam and the process producing what "appear" to be flow
lines around the edges of the phony mintmark...so very deceptive and
dangerous to the collector. As you implied, a Type 2 1913- S should
generally be bought certified. Often done to mimic the scarce in high
grades 1926-S as well.

Ira

 
 
 

1913-s type 1 or type II?

Post by Jeff Lando » Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:06:10


Ira, you hit the nail on the head.  This is what I've heard to be the common
counterfeiting technique as well.  The buffalo nickel is especially
vulnerable to this.

It takes a HIGHLY trained eye to detect this -- not to mention some high-end
equipment in some cases.  Most of us (myself included) have neither.  The
experts at PCGS have both, plus the all-important guarantee of authenticity.

DON'T buy this one raw!  (Is there an echo in here?)

--Jeff


Quote:
> Right you are, James.

> An extremely depceptive way these are counterfeited is by taking a
> common P-mint 1912 Type 2, drilling a hole in the edge and inserting a
> special tool that with a few hundred blows pushes out the mintmark into
> the appropriate area of the coin, The hole is then filled and smoothed
> til it matches the edge of the coin. Examination of the mintmark will
> not reveal a seam and the process producing what "appear" to be flow
> lines around the edges of the phony mintmark...so very deceptive and
> dangerous to the collector. As you implied, a Type 2 1913- S should
> generally be bought certified. Often done to mimic the scarce in high
> grades 1926-S as well.

> Ira

 
 
 

1913-s type 1 or type II?

Post by Sanfo » Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:44:03



Quote:
>Right you are, James.

>An extremely depceptive way these are counterfeited is by taking a
>common P-mint 1912 Type 2, drilling a hole in the edge and inserting a
>special tool that with a few hundred blows pushes out the mintmark into
>the appropriate area of the coin, The hole is then filled and smoothed
>til it matches the edge of the coin. Examination of the mintmark will
>not reveal a seam and the process producing what "appear" to be flow
>lines around the edges of the phony mintmark...so very deceptive and
>dangerous to the collector. As you implied, a Type 2 1913- S should
>generally be bought certified. Often done to mimic the scarce in high
>grades 1926-S as well.

>Ira

1912 ?

Sanford