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>1) I know that there are both Type 1 and 2 proofs for each denomination

>minted in 1979. But the RedBook lists only Type 2 proofs for the cent

>and dollar in 1981. Yet I see adverti***ts offering Type 2 proofs for

>the other 1981 denominations. Do they or do they not exist for the

>nickel, dime, quarter, and half of 1981?

>2) Regardless of date and denomination, are Type 1 proofs all referred

>to as "filled S" and Type 2 proofs all referred to as "clear S"?

1) There are, most certainly, type II 1981 proofs for all 6

denominations. The

nickel type II is actually cheaper than the type I, but the dime quarter

and half all carry premiums of their own for type IIs. The cent & dollar

are by far the highest priced and perhaps this is why you don't see a

listing for the other denominations, although the half retails around

$8-$9 so I am surprised to hear you say its not listed. If anyone is

interested, I'll post a listing of the various single coin bids from the

greysheet, where they carry roll bid prices for all 6 coins.

2) It is incorrect to refer to the '81 mintmarks as "filled" or "clear"

in determining value. These characteristics are determined by the force

with which the mintmark was punched into the die and the terms are totally

irrelevant as to whether the mintmark is a I or a II. The distinguishing

features of the 81 type II mintmark are in the >shape< of the upper &

lower loops. The type I 1981 actually has a perfectly round upper loop

(after all, its really the 1979 type II punch!!) while the 81 type II has

a slightly horizontally flattened appearance. In retrospect, it would

have been much less confusinng had we named them type I, II, and III

because the 79 type II and the

81 type I are exactly the same. They are the same punch.

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