Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by George V. Huse, Jr » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 04:51:12




Message:  I am a member of the Usenet Newsgroup rec.collecting.coins.
Back in June, 2002, we issued the world's first Usenet token.

I would like permission from the UK Mint to do a private restrike of the
UK 1847 Gothic Crown with the following changes:

1. Date changed to 2003.
2. Denomination of "1 Flame" added to reverse.
3. "RCC", "U", and "FD" adde to design on. "U" on obverse, others on
reverse. Planchets used will be bronze, 1 9/16 in. dia., 3mm thick and
sterling silver, 1 9/16 in. dia., 3mm thick, 1.3 Troy oz. sterling silver.

Mintage to be limited to 520 for bronze, 220 for sterling silver.

I think there is enough differences between the restrike and the
original so any attempt to modify the restrike to pass as an original,
thereby attempting fraud, would be discernible to a collector.

May I please have such permission? Thank you.

--
Buzz Huse, MCSE+I, MCSE   Iter Sine Fine (Journey Without End)

"These opinions/comments are entirely my own and no one else's."

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by Ji » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 05:10:07



Quote:
>I would like permission from the UK Mint to do a private restrike of the UK

1847 Gothic Crown >snip<<

Do you think if you sent a heap of warm Texas BBQ addressed to Tony Blair,
things might move a little quicker?

Best of Luck with Ember II. BTW, what does an 1847 Crown look like? If I can't
find one on eBay, I'll be back.

          Always here for my fellow syngraphist or oenophile.
--=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=--

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by George V. Huse, Jr » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:00:44


The Most Gorgeous Coin Ever Minted:



 >
 >
 >>I would like permission from the UK Mint to do a private restrike of
the UK
 >
 > 1847 Gothic Crown >snip<<
 >
 > Do you think if you sent a heap of warm Texas BBQ addressed to Tony
Blair,
 > things might move a little quicker?
 >
 > Best of Luck with Ember II. BTW, what does an 1847 Crown look like?
If I can't
 > find one on eBay, I'll be back.
 >
 >           Always here for my fellow syngraphist or oenophile.
 > --=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=--

--
Buzz Huse, MCSE+I, MCSE   Iter Sine Fine (Journey Without End)

"These opinions/comments are entirely my own and no one else's."

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by gogu » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:17:53




Quote:
> The Most Gorgeous Coin Ever Minted:



You are right! Excellent coin! But what about a new design of the British
Royal Mint (the Sword of State and the Royal Standard)? But they will
certainly not give us permission to use it, as it is just out of the Mint:-)
See it at alt.binaries.pictures.numismatic, under the title "The Sword of
State and the Royal Standard"

rgrds

--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame
debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane!
F.d.A

Quote:


>  >>I would like permission from the UK Mint to do a private restrike of
> the UK

>  > 1847 Gothic Crown >snip<<

>  > Do you think if you sent a heap of warm Texas BBQ addressed to Tony
> Blair,
>  > things might move a little quicker?

>  > Best of Luck with Ember II. BTW, what does an 1847 Crown look like?
> If I can't
>  > find one on eBay, I'll be back.

>  >           Always here for my fellow syngraphist or oenophile.
>  > --=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=--

> --
> Buzz Huse, MCSE+I, MCSE   Iter Sine Fine (Journey Without End)

> "These opinions/comments are entirely my own and no one else's."

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by Ji » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:49:37



Quote:
>The Most Gorgeous Coin Ever Minted<

I "do" like that reverse, lemme tell ya. And the obverse, while not exactly my
cuppa tea, at least does "look like" a women, as opposed to an (insert one)
SBA, Shriver, early US copper, etc.. Although inserting an etc. might be
tough....

But Buzz, wouldn't the busy-ness of that reverse add beaucoup bux to the
project? I mean, the engraving time on that reverse must be 8x the entire Ember
I alone!

          Always here for my fellow syngraphist or oenophile.
--=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=--

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by George V. Huse, Jr » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:45:00


Nope, not in the age of digitization & computers.  Back in March, I sent
the scan in & got the standard $210 for the die charge.

Now, so as not to be a counterfeiter, all I need is the authorization &
funding.  Then OPERATION GOTHIC FLAME is back in bidness.

Quote:


>>The Most Gorgeous Coin Ever Minted<

> I "do" like that reverse, lemme tell ya. And the obverse, while not exactly my
> cuppa tea, at least does "look like" a women, as opposed to an (insert one)
> SBA, Shriver, early US copper, etc.. Although inserting an etc. might be
> tough....

> But Buzz, wouldn't the busy-ness of that reverse add beaucoup bux to the
> project? I mean, the engraving time on that reverse must be 8x the entire Ember
> I alone!

>           Always here for my fellow syngraphist or oenophile.
> --=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=----=*=--

--
Buzz Huse, MCSE+I, MCSE          Iter Sine Fine (Journey Without End)
Euless, TX USA                   http://flashpages.prodigy.net/buzzhuse/
"These comments/opinions are entirely my own and nobody else's."
 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by Phil DeMa » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:28:15



Quote:
>Now, so as not to be a counterfeiter, all I need is the authorization &
>funding.  Then OPERATION GOTHIC FLAME is back in bidness.

Please don't take this personally, but I think it is a silly design for an RCC
token.

I'd also like to know how you arrived at the conclusion that the Royal Mint
would have the authority to grant you permission to copy the design.

++++++++++
Phil DeMayo
When bidding online always sit on your helmet
Just say NO to counterfeits

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by mar » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:46:21


Quote:
>From: "George V. Huse, Jr."
>I would like permission from the UK Mint to do a private restrike of the
>UK 1847 Gothic Crown with the following changes:

Two questions for you to consider: are the UK designs in the public domain as
the US ones are?   And, why not keep the ember reverse, change denomination to
"Flame" and go with the aunt vicky obverse from the Crown?  That way it'd be
more consistently representative of this newsgroup and less so just a new
rendition of a British coin.

--
mark
"Market Grading is about creating markets, and not about grading"
  Deven Atkinson

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by oly20 » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:20:36


Quote:

> >From: "George V. Huse, Jr."

> >I would like permission from the UK Mint to do a private restrike of the
> >UK 1847 Gothic Crown with the following changes:

> Two questions for you to consider: are the UK designs in the public domain as
> the US ones are?   And, why not keep the ember reverse, change denomination to
> "Flame" and go with the aunt vicky obverse from the Crown?  That way it'd be
> more consistently representative of this newsgroup and less so just a new
> rendition of a British coin.

Are you aware that Richard Loebel (proprietor of Coincraft, located
across from the British Museum in the heart of old London) mints such
things with near abandon?  Not only does he do it, I doubt that he is
the type of person to go asking the British Mint's permission.  Very
few U.K. coins before 1970 still have legal tender status, so I
imagine that Mr. Loebel has consulted his soliciter and is already
standing on very legal firm ground.

Other than the fact he would charge you a lot for an example, Mr.
Loebel has no doubt done quality reproductions of the Gothic Crown in
the past.  Coincraft can rather easily be found using Google...

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by George V. Huse, Jr » Tue, 17 Dec 2002 04:48:04


Quote:

> Please don't take this personally, but I think it is a silly design for an RCC
> token.

> I'd also like to know how you arrived at the conclusion that the Royal Mint
> would have the authority to grant you permission to copy the design.

They're the only ones I can think of.  They made the original so they
own it.

--
Buzz Huse, MCSE+I, MCSE   Iter Sine Fine (Journey Without End)

"These opinions/comments are entirely my own and no one else's."

 
 
 

Request To UK Mint For Authorization To Restrike UK 1847 Gothic Crown

Post by George V. Huse, Jr » Tue, 17 Dec 2002 04:49:45


Quote:

> Two questions for you to consider: are the UK designs in the public domain as
> the US ones are?   And, why not keep the ember reverse, change denomination to
> "Flame" and go with the aunt vicky obverse from the Crown?  That way it'd be
> more consistently representative of this newsgroup and less so just a new
> rendition of a British coin.

Mixing 5h Gothic & Ancient Greek designs would not be kosher.  The whole
coin must of the same thematic design.

--
Buzz Huse, MCSE+I, MCSE   Iter Sine Fine (Journey Without End)

"These opinions/comments are entirely my own and no one else's."