Coin holder question

Coin holder question

Post by JHrisoul » Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Hello:

Ok I know this may open the proverbial can of worms here but I need to know,
from a user's point of view, what would be the safest coind holder? I have seen
"Cointains".the round ones with that neoprene seal...The white styrene (?)
plastic ones from Whitman is it..and the Eagle ones...The prices vary widely
and well..I am a bit confused here.  Personally I am leaning more towards
either the Whitman or the Eagle holders...  Anyone have any input...?? All
suggestions would be welcome!!

Thank you!!

JPH
Dr JP Hrisoulas,
Las Vegas, Nevada
Bladesmith, Metallographer, Researcher, Lecturer
Author:
"The Complete Bladesmith"
"The Master Bladesmith"
"The Pattern Welded Blade"
LtC, NVDoM
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Coin holder question

Post by Stephen Coulte » Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:00:00


The holders with the neoprene ring are AirTites, not kointains, which are direct
fit holders. I have used Airtites for years and I have absolute confidence in them.
Quote:

> Hello:

> Ok I know this may open the proverbial can of worms here but I need to know,
> from a user's point of view, what would be the safest coind holder? I have seen
> "Cointains".the round ones with that neoprene seal...The white styrene (?)
> plastic ones from Whitman is it..and the Eagle ones...The prices vary widely
> and well..I am a bit confused here.  Personally I am leaning more towards
> either the Whitman or the Eagle holders...  Anyone have any input...?? All
> suggestions would be welcome!!

> Thank you!!

> JPH
> Dr JP Hrisoulas,
> Las Vegas, Nevada
> Bladesmith, Metallographer, Researcher, Lecturer
> Author:
> "The Complete Bladesmith"
> "The Master Bladesmith"
> "The Pattern Welded Blade"
> LtC, NVDoM
> http://www.Atar.com


 
 
 

Coin holder question

Post by John Much » Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Try a search for "holders" in this newsgroup.  We've had some terrific
threads about this very topic.

IMO, you can't go wrong with Air-Tite, Eagle, Whitman (plastic), or
Kointain holders.  Capitol Plastic has a huge line of holders but, for
me, thay aren't as good a solution for a decent sized collection.

Each holder has its advantages and disadvantages and no one holder is
universally the best for all people and all situations.  You'll have
to get information on all of them, and then decide how you wish to
store and display your collection.

IMO, Air-Tites are the best long-term solution.  They have a huge
assortment of holders, display cards, albums, and presentation cases.
They are expensive though.  These are the holders I use for all my
nice coins.

Standard cardboard and mylar 2x2 holders are very inexpensive and you
can easily store and display a huge number of coins.  But IMO they are
not suitable for very long term storage or for valuable coins.
Several members of this newsgroup use them very successfully though
and recommend them.  For circulated or inexpensive coins, they are a
terrific to display and store your coins.  I use them for my Mardi
Gras doubloons, circulated world coins, and transportation tokens.

Whitman two-piece holders are pretty airtight, inexpensive, and allow
you to display your coins in 20-pocket pages (get mylar pages!) in
standard three-ring binders.  Though I suggest using a nice cloth
bound archival binder, it looks a LOT better than a standard vinyl
binder.  An inexpensive solution that can easily expand to display
lots of coins.  You may have to use pages that have slightly looser
pockets to fit the Whitman holder.

The Eagle holders are terrific too.  Similar to the Whitmans (but in
three-pieces with a flexible mylar window), they are available in
white and black.  Personally, I think an album of black Eagle holders
would look great!  A little more expensive but they look better than
the Whitmans.

Kointains are terrific for protecting coins but are only available in
6 (7?) sizes which is a problem for non-US or early-US coins.  I would
recommend them for use as part of another holder, e.g. place the coins
in Kointain holders then into cardboard 2x2's.  This would give more
physical and environmental protection than 2x2's alone, but won't cost
a lot.  They have a definite place, I just haven't figured out where
they can fit into my collection.

John Muchow

Quote:
>>Ok I know this may open the proverbial can of worms here but I need to know,
>>from a user's point of view, what would be the safest coind holder? I have seen
>>"Cointains".the round ones with that neoprene seal...The white styrene (?)
>>plastic ones from Whitman is it..and the Eagle ones...The prices vary widely
>>and well..I am a bit confused here.  Personally I am leaning more towards
>>either the Whitman or the Eagle holders...  Anyone have any input...?? All
>>suggestions would be welcome!!

 
 
 

Coin holder question

Post by MSCAT » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


I read your reply re: modern day holders. I have a lot of holders that I think
must be old. They list the denomination of coin and year. For example:United
States Half Dollars 1858-1867.There are round spots for the coins to be slipped
into from one edge of the page. (This is hard cardboard with 2 holes on left
side(I imagine for a binder of some type)The back  is stamped Wayte Raymond
Inc.,N.Y. Made in U.S.A. Pat.No. 1,719,962.

Are these old and where can I find out how to estimate year of patent???
Thank you for your time.  I am enjoying reading the posts. I have a large
collection of coins, which I inherited and I am trying to learn how to grade
them.

JoAnn

 
 
 

Coin holder question

Post by John Much » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>>Are these old and where can I find out how to estimate year of patent???
>>Thank you for your time.  I am enjoying reading the posts. I have a large
>>collection of coins, which I inherited and I am trying to learn how to grade
>>them.

Sounds like you have pages from coin albums (like the current Whitman
or Dansco albums).

I did a search of the patent number at the US Patent and Trademark
Office (http://www.uspto.gov/) but nothing came up.  This only means
that the patent was issued before 1976.  I don't know the range of
possible manufacture dates for the pages you have but the patent
number will probably only tell you that the pages were made some time
after the patent issuance date.  

The pages probably date to sometime during or soon after the 1960's,
when coin collecting really gew in popularity.

Perhaps someone else is familiar with Wayte Raymond, Inc. and will be
able to give more info than I have, sorry.

John Muchow

 
 
 

Coin holder question

Post by conder.. » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


The old Wayte Raymond holders are quite well known among old time
collectors and are somewhat collectable in their own right.  Wayte
Raymond was one of the most important dealers in the early 30's to late
40's.  He was a dealer and a publisher who had an eye for quality and
felt that diseminating knowledge about coins was important.  He
published many books and information pamphlets and a guidebook of United
states coins which was the standard reference book before the Redbook by
Yeoman.  Raymond hired the best researchers he could find and he was the
man who hired Walter Breen to go through the original mint records in
the national archives.  So we have Raymond to thank for all of the
information that Breen recovered and later published.  The Raymond
holders I have date from the early 40's but they are dated.  Since yours
aren't they are probably a little earlier. (Yes his holders predated the
Whitman blue folders.)  Raymond holders are known for producing a very
nice toning on the coins held in them.

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Coin holder question

Post by bkrrrr » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> Whitman blue folders.)  Raymond holders are known for producing a very
> nice toning on the coins held in them.

  What about the Whitman and Treat folders?  My coins
have been in those for nearly 20 years now, and don't
seem to have any new "toning" to them.  Should I think
about finding new containers for my silver?

bkr

 
 
 

Coin holder question

Post by John Much » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>>The old Wayte Raymond holders are quite well known among old time
>>collectors and are somewhat collectable in their own right.  Wayte
>>Raymond was one of the most important dealers in the early 30's to late
>>40's.

Wow, that early!  I wasn't aware that albums were available in the
40's.  Thanks for the information, I learn someting new every day
here.  :-)

Quote:
>>He published many books and information pamphlets and a
>>guidebook of United states coins which was the standard
>>reference book before the Redbook by Yeoman.

I *knew* the name was familiar, just couldn't find anything in my
small (but always growing) library.

Quote:
>>The Raymond holders I have date from the early 40's but
>>they are dated.  Since yours aren't they are probably a little earlier.

JoAnn (MSCATJO) has the Raymond pages but I really appreciate the
information, thanks!

John Muchow