Batch #1 preliminary tasting :) and newbie question

Batch #1 preliminary tasting :) and newbie question

Post by jP » Thu, 08 Nov 2001 07:22:10



I could not resist trying a bottle of my batch #1 today, an American
Ale.  It has only been in the bottle for 8 days after 1 week primary and
2 weeks in the secondary, all at 65 degrees in the ba***t the whole
time.   75% attenuation occurred, Wyeast 1056.   Bottles stored boxed in
same ba***t at 65 deg F.

- Good points:  Tastes good, nice color, better then I expected!  No
trace whatsoever of any infection.   Nice and clear, very clean in
appearence, red-brown color.

- Only Bad point:   No carbonation at all despite 3/4 cup corn suger
solution added to the bottling bucket on bottling day.  Flat.  I can
only dream of how good this might taste carbonated.

Before bottling, I posted a question to this newgroup about swirling a
little yeast into suspension to allow for bottling conditioning.   The
general consensus was that this was not at all needed.   So I assume I
got enough yeast and I did no swirling whatsoever.   I guess it is not
fermenting in the bottle, or very very slowly.

Should I expect significant carbonation for 8 bottle-conditioning days
at 65 deg F?  I did see a light dusting of sediment on the bottom of the
bottle, so that is a little encouraging, I guess.  But it is really
flat.

How long should I wait before considering this a carbonation failure and
add new yeast to all the bottles?  I think I can taste a very slight
sweetness from the corn suger in the flat ale.  And is uncaping and
pitching in a grain of Safale or something the way to do this?

Sigh.

-jP

 
 
 

Batch #1 preliminary tasting :) and newbie question

Post by Joey » Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:38:42


try bringing a couple of bottles up to 70* to get them a bit warmer.  (i'd
suggest putting them in a cardboard box, etc for safety "just in case").
Wait a couple of days, chill and try it then.  If the beer is completely
flat, then you may have not mixed in your priming solution good enuff and
you could have some bombs ready to explode.

if you know you mixed it well, it just may need a warm up.


Quote:
> I could not resist trying a bottle of my batch #1 today, an American
> Ale.  It has only been in the bottle for 8 days after 1 week primary and
> 2 weeks in the secondary, all at 65 degrees in the ba***t the whole
> time.   75% attenuation occurred, Wyeast 1056.   Bottles stored boxed in
> same ba***t at 65 deg F.

> - Good points:  Tastes good, nice color, better then I expected!  No
> trace whatsoever of any infection.   Nice and clear, very clean in
> appearence, red-brown color.

> - Only Bad point:   No carbonation at all despite 3/4 cup corn suger
> solution added to the bottling bucket on bottling day.  Flat.  I can
> only dream of how good this might taste carbonated.

> Before bottling, I posted a question to this newgroup about swirling a
> little yeast into suspension to allow for bottling conditioning.   The
> general consensus was that this was not at all needed.   So I assume I
> got enough yeast and I did no swirling whatsoever.   I guess it is not
> fermenting in the bottle, or very very slowly.

> Should I expect significant carbonation for 8 bottle-conditioning days
> at 65 deg F?  I did see a light dusting of sediment on the bottom of the
> bottle, so that is a little encouraging, I guess.  But it is really
> flat.

> How long should I wait before considering this a carbonation failure and
> add new yeast to all the bottles?  I think I can taste a very slight
> sweetness from the corn suger in the flat ale.  And is uncaping and
> pitching in a grain of Safale or something the way to do this?

> Sigh.

> -jP


 
 
 

Batch #1 preliminary tasting :) and newbie question

Post by Brett Hetheringto » Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:48:21


Howdy jP,
Not to worry, seems like sometimes the carbonation comes on all at once.
Give them another week, or you could move them to a warmer environment
for a few days if you wanted to. Not over 75f though.
As far as waiting 8 days... that shows a lot of willpower!
-Brett
Quote:

> I could not resist trying a bottle of my batch #1 today, an American
> Ale.  It has only been in the bottle for 8 days after 1 week primary and
> 2 weeks in the secondary, all at 65 degrees in the ba***t the whole
> time.   75% attenuation occurred, Wyeast 1056.   Bottles stored boxed in
> same ba***t at 65 deg F.

> - Good points:  Tastes good, nice color, better then I expected!  No
> trace whatsoever of any infection.   Nice and clear, very clean in
> appearence, red-brown color.

> - Only Bad point:   No carbonation at all despite 3/4 cup corn suger
> solution added to the bottling bucket on bottling day.  Flat.  I can
> only dream of how good this might taste carbonated.

> Before bottling, I posted a question to this newgroup about swirling a
> little yeast into suspension to allow for bottling conditioning.   The
> general consensus was that this was not at all needed.   So I assume I
> got enough yeast and I did no swirling whatsoever.   I guess it is not
> fermenting in the bottle, or very very slowly.

> Should I expect significant carbonation for 8 bottle-conditioning days
> at 65 deg F?  I did see a light dusting of sediment on the bottom of the
> bottle, so that is a little encouraging, I guess.  But it is really
> flat.

> How long should I wait before considering this a carbonation failure and
> add new yeast to all the bottles?  I think I can taste a very slight
> sweetness from the corn suger in the flat ale.  And is uncaping and
> pitching in a grain of Safale or something the way to do this?

> Sigh.

> -jP

 
 
 

Batch #1 preliminary tasting :) and newbie question

Post by RonJ » Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:28:42


Quote:
>Should I expect significant carbonation for 8 bottle-conditioning days
>at 65 deg F?

Not in my experience.  Although 65 degrees is a tad on the low side,
significant improvements in carbonation will occur over time.

I would put them in a 70 degree environment for another 5-7 days.

Ron

 
 
 

Batch #1 preliminary tasting :) and newbie question

Post by Jim Mora » Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:42:17


Congatulations on your first brew of many to follow, I'm sure. As far as the
carbonation, give it some time. I believe your priming level is appropriate,
just be patient. Don't worry, you know the saying.  Keep on brewing. Cheers,
Jim

Quote:

> >Should I expect significant carbonation for 8 bottle-conditioning days
> >at 65 deg F?

> Not in my experience.  Although 65 degrees is a tad on the low side,
> significant improvements in carbonation will occur over time.

> I would put them in a 70 degree environment for another 5-7 days.

> Ron

 
 
 

Batch #1 preliminary tasting :) and newbie question

Post by jP » Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:43:29


Thanks for the advice all (again).   I'll give it another week or two
and retry.

-jP

Quote:

> Congatulations on your first brew of many to follow, I'm sure. As far as the
> carbonation, give it some time. I believe your priming level is appropriate,
> just be patient. Don't worry, you know the saying.  Keep on brewing. Cheers,
> Jim


> > >Should I expect significant carbonation for 8 bottle-conditioning days
> > >at 65 deg F?

> > Not in my experience.  Although 65 degrees is a tad on the low side,
> > significant improvements in carbonation will occur over time.

> > I would put them in a 70 degree environment for another 5-7 days.

> > Ron