Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by YoYo » Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:02:01



OK, i finnally want to make a rocket that looks "perfect"..
I went into the local hobby shop, searching for something to fill spiral
grooves in the BT..
I had a tube of squadron putty in my hand, and the guy in the hobby store
pointed me towards this hobbylite filler instead..
The stuff must have some use, but so far it hasn't worked out great for the
grooves..
How do i fill the grooves?
I also seem to have a problem getting rid of the grain in balsa and
plywood..sanding sealer(automotive, spray can) doesn't do the trick..
help?

TIA

 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by Andy Waddel » Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:36:09


Automotive spray can stuff isn't sanding sealer. You need something
specifically for balsa. I like Pactra brand Aero Gloss, part number 71-4.
Any good hobby shop should have it, as Pactra is a major hobby brand most
places carry.

--
Andrew D. Waddell
PML Online Support Rep
NAR L2 52875/TRA L2 2043

PML: www.publicmissiles.com

Quote:
> OK, i finnally want to make a rocket that looks "perfect"..
> I went into the local hobby shop, searching for something to fill spiral
> grooves in the BT..
> I had a tube of squadron putty in my hand, and the guy in the hobby store
> pointed me towards this hobbylite filler instead..
> The stuff must have some use, but so far it hasn't worked out great for
the
> grooves..
> How do i fill the grooves?
> I also seem to have a problem getting rid of the grain in balsa and
> plywood..sanding sealer(automotive, spray can) doesn't do the trick..
> help?

> TIA


 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by YoYo » Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:38:17


Thanks andy..is this a spray, or brush on type thing?

Quote:
> Automotive spray can stuff isn't sanding sealer. You need something
> specifically for balsa. I like Pactra brand Aero Gloss, part number 71-4.
> Any good hobby shop should have it, as Pactra is a major hobby brand most
> places carry.

> --
> Andrew D. Waddell
> PML Online Support Rep
> NAR L2 52875/TRA L2 2043

> PML: www.publicmissiles.com


> > OK, i finnally want to make a rocket that looks "perfect"..
> > I went into the local hobby shop, searching for something to fill spiral
> > grooves in the BT..
> > I had a tube of squadron putty in my hand, and the guy in the hobby
store
> > pointed me towards this hobbylite filler instead..
> > The stuff must have some use, but so far it hasn't worked out great for
> the
> > grooves..
> > How do i fill the grooves?
> > I also seem to have a problem getting rid of the grain in balsa and
> > plywood..sanding sealer(automotive, spray can) doesn't do the trick..
> > help?

> > TIA

 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by Andy Waddel » Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:56:25


Brush on. Make sure you mix it up well also. I use a popsicle stick to get
the sediment off the bottom unstuck well, then cap it back up again and
shake the $%$%# out of it. If you're using it again the same day or next day
just shaking is enough. (I don't use mine often, so everything settles back
to the bottom before I use it again). BTW, wear a respirator or have good,
flowing ventilation away from you when using it. Stuff definitely smells
like it ain't too good for you to be breathing!

I usually use about 3 coats, 4 or 5 if I want a really nice finish (sanding
each coat in between; not putting on coat after coat THEN sanding). I like
this stuff because it seems to fill the pores well, dries pretty quickly,
and sands easily.

--
Andrew D. Waddell
PML Online Support Rep
NAR L2 52875/TRA L2 2043

PML: www.publicmissiles.com

Quote:
> Thanks andy..is this a spray, or brush on type thing?


> > Automotive spray can stuff isn't sanding sealer. You need something
> > specifically for balsa. I like Pactra brand Aero Gloss, part number
71-4.
> > Any good hobby shop should have it, as Pactra is a major hobby brand
most
> > places carry.

> > --
> > Andrew D. Waddell
> > PML Online Support Rep
> > NAR L2 52875/TRA L2 2043

> > PML: www.publicmissiles.com


> > > OK, i finnally want to make a rocket that looks "perfect"..
> > > I went into the local hobby shop, searching for something to fill
spiral
> > > grooves in the BT..
> > > I had a tube of squadron putty in my hand, and the guy in the hobby
> store
> > > pointed me towards this hobbylite filler instead..
> > > The stuff must have some use, but so far it hasn't worked out great
for
> > the
> > > grooves..
> > > How do i fill the grooves?
> > > I also seem to have a problem getting rid of the grain in balsa and
> > > plywood..sanding sealer(automotive, spray can) doesn't do the trick..
> > > help?

> > > TIA

 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by Darren J Longhor » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 01:12:59



Quote:
> Brush on. Make sure you mix it up well also. I use a popsicle stick to get
> the sediment off the bottom unstuck well, then cap it back up again and
> shake the $%$%# out of it. If you're using it again the same day or next
day
> just shaking is enough. (I don't use mine often, so everything settles
back
> to the bottom before I use it again). BTW, wear a respirator or have good,
> flowing ventilation away from you when using it. Stuff definitely smells
> like it ain't too good for you to be breathing!

> I usually use about 3 coats, 4 or 5 if I want a really nice finish
(sanding
> each coat in between; not putting on coat after coat THEN sanding). I like
> this stuff because it seems to fill the pores well, dries pretty quickly,
> and sands easily.

I fins finishing epoxy works quite well too. It's good for coating body
tubes _and_ fins.
 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by ssin » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 02:59:20


go to walmart and in the home hardware u'll
find dry wall filler. it works great,super cheep

--
close your eyes and hold your breath and everything will become really
pretty

ssin


Quote:



> > Brush on. Make sure you mix it up well also. I use a popsicle stick to
get
> > the sediment off the bottom unstuck well, then cap it back up again and
> > shake the $%$%# out of it. If you're using it again the same day or next
> day
> > just shaking is enough. (I don't use mine often, so everything settles
> back
> > to the bottom before I use it again). BTW, wear a respirator or have
good,
> > flowing ventilation away from you when using it. Stuff definitely smells
> > like it ain't too good for you to be breathing!

> > I usually use about 3 coats, 4 or 5 if I want a really nice finish
> (sanding
> > each coat in between; not putting on coat after coat THEN sanding). I
like
> > this stuff because it seems to fill the pores well, dries pretty
quickly,
> > and sands easily.

> I fins finishing epoxy works quite well too. It's good for coating body
> tubes _and_ fins.

 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by Darren J Longhor » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:40:42



Quote:
> go to walmart and in the home hardware u'll
> find dry wall filler. it works great,super cheep

I'll bet you I won't.
Quote:


> > I fins finishing epoxy works quite well too. It's good for coating body
> > tubes _and_ fins.

 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by Tirra » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 05:29:38


Quote:

>OK, i finnally want to make a rocket that looks "perfect"..
>I went into the local hobby shop, searching for something to fill spiral
>grooves in the BT..
>I had a tube of squadron putty in my hand, and the guy in the hobby store
>pointed me towards this hobbylite filler instead..
>The stuff must have some use, but so far it hasn't worked out great for the
>grooves..
>How do i fill the grooves?
>I also seem to have a problem getting rid of the grain in balsa and
>plywood..sanding sealer(automotive, spray can) doesn't do the trick..

        I use the Hobbylite filler myself, and I absolutely swear by it. But,
like most finishing materials, it requires a bit of practice to use well.
        For the grooves, you apply the Hobbylite along the groove, not across
it. The stuff is self-adhesive enough so that it will 'roll' out of the
groove as your spatula/finger applies it crosswise. It helps if it's a bit
thin, too; I dip my finger in a bit of water, get some filler on it, and
spread it on. Directly from the jar is far too thick to work properly.
        Same applies for the fins. Be fairly generous, and make it a bit thin,
a bit thinner than instant pudding. Cover the whole fin, wait for it to
harden, and then sand most of it off - but don't use wet sandpaper, because
it will dissolve the filler and you'll have to start all over again.
        Most of what you apply will end up on the floor, of course, but that's
filler for you.

        And I noticed today that my first jar of Hobbylite is finally almost
empty. Time for another trip to the hobby store, if I can get hold of a car
somehow...

Tir'

 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by Chip Jenkin » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 06:47:57


I wouldn't buy 6 oz. of sanding sealer at the hobby shop for $8 when you
can buy a quart of it at the hardware sore for $6.  I just went to the
local hardware and found a can.  It's called sanding sealer there too
(imagine that).  OK, maybe I just guessed at the prices and the
container volumes.  However, I'll bet that you can get more sanding
sealer per dollar at your local true value or even better, go to one the
of larger hardware store chains.

BTW, it takes about 4 coats to fill the grain on balsa, maybe 5...  I'm
not sure because I usually lose patience before I get that many coats on
the fins.

Chip

Quote:

> Automotive spray can stuff isn't sanding sealer. You need something
> specifically for balsa. I like Pactra brand Aero Gloss, part number 71-4.
> Any good hobby shop should have it, as Pactra is a major hobby brand most
> places carry.

> --
> Andrew D. Waddell
> PML Online Support Rep
> NAR L2 52875/TRA L2 2043

> PML: www.publicmissiles.com


> > OK, i finnally want to make a rocket that looks "perfect"..
> > I went into the local hobby shop, searching for something to fill spiral
> > grooves in the BT..
> > I had a tube of squadron putty in my hand, and the guy in the hobby store
> > pointed me towards this hobbylite filler instead..
> > The stuff must have some use, but so far it hasn't worked out great for
> the
> > grooves..
> > How do i fill the grooves?
> > I also seem to have a problem getting rid of the grain in balsa and
> > plywood..sanding sealer(automotive, spray can) doesn't do the trick..
> > help?

> > TIA

 
 
 

Hobbylite Balsa colored filler? spiral grooves?

Post by YoYo » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:08:17


I'll try it with a little water, thanks

Quote:

> >OK, i finnally want to make a rocket that looks "perfect"..
> >I went into the local hobby shop, searching for something to fill spiral
> >grooves in the BT..
> >I had a tube of squadron putty in my hand, and the guy in the hobby store
> >pointed me towards this hobbylite filler instead..
> >The stuff must have some use, but so far it hasn't worked out great for
the
> >grooves..
> >How do i fill the grooves?
> >I also seem to have a problem getting rid of the grain in balsa and
> >plywood..sanding sealer(automotive, spray can) doesn't do the trick..

> I use the Hobbylite filler myself, and I absolutely swear by it. But,
> like most finishing materials, it requires a bit of practice to use well.
> For the grooves, you apply the Hobbylite along the groove, not across
> it. The stuff is self-adhesive enough so that it will 'roll' out of the
> groove as your spatula/finger applies it crosswise. It helps if it's a bit
> thin, too; I dip my finger in a bit of water, get some filler on it, and
> spread it on. Directly from the jar is far too thick to work properly.
> Same applies for the fins. Be fairly generous, and make it a bit thin,
> a bit thinner than instant pudding. Cover the whole fin, wait for it to
> harden, and then sand most of it off - but don't use wet sandpaper,
because
> it will dissolve the filler and you'll have to start all over again.
> Most of what you apply will end up on the floor, of course, but that's
> filler for you.

> And I noticed today that my first jar of Hobbylite is finally almost
> empty. Time for another trip to the hobby store, if I can get hold of a
car
> somehow...

> Tir'