Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Daniel Joseph Mi » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:41:08




Quote:
>After about $400B.  Start crying about the loss of the pure science
>missions now.
>-Rich

>US, European, Japanese, Russian and Canadian space officials have
>reaffirmed their determination to see the International Space Station
>completed by its target date of 2010.
>"If we launch without setback, 16 (shuttle) flights are required to
>assemble the ISS and we'll finish sometime early in fiscal 2010, so we
>have, we believe, substantial schedule margin, to complete our job,"
>Michael Griffin, head of the US space agency, NASA, said late Thursday
>The shuttle is expected to be retired in 2010 after 30 years in
>service.
>NASA plans to launch another shuttle in May. The first flight since the
>2003 Columbia disaster was in July but it produced new technical
>problems and the flights have been grounded again.
>Columbia stopped work on the ISS, because the shuttle serves as a space
>delivery truck, as it is the only space vehicle able to bring major ISS
>components into orbit.
>Trouble with the loss of insulating foam pulling off the external fuel
>tank on liftoff is still keeping NASA egineers busy, but they appear
>confident it has been ironed out as a cause of potential accidents.
>Foam insulation fell off Columbia's tank and damaged the left wing,
>causing the orbiter to disintegrate upon re-entry into Earth's
>atmosphere, killing all seven astronauts on board on February 1, 2003.
>As part of the construction schedule for the ISS, NASA agreed to speed
>up the despatch of Europe's Columbus laboratory and Japan's Kibo
>experimental module.
>These are the European and Japanese contributions to the station --
>which is expected to cost about 100 billion dollars and is being funded
>largely by the United States.
>The European Space Agency chief, Jean-Jacques Dordain said the Columbus
>laboratory will be delivered to NASA in May.
>(c) 2006 AFP
>This news is brought to you by PhysOrg.com

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Here it is 2006, and NASA *still* has enough headaches trying
to cope with the challenges (remember the Challenger shuttle?)
of low-earth orbit manned spacecraft. But things were "easier"
generations ago, back in the bygone era of sliderules, hippies
and flower children. Yupp! Back then, the laws of physics were
a lot easier to deal with than they are now, quite "obviously";
our technology was far more advanced back then, than it is now... :-D

*Altitude Comparison Chart of Shuttle vs. Moon & Manmade Satellites:

*Apollo Moon Missions 1969-1972 Were At Best *Unmanned*:

*Quasi-Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:

Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7

 *Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
  http://www.danieljosephmin.netfirms.com/

 *Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
iQA/AwUBRAkYnZljD7YrHM/nEQJjGACgzpkhXaHRjs35zszMBk64Ozf32uwAoIVS
t39B13ldConbdPvJpb3P+ITD
=dPlE
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Greg Heiler » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 14:04:55


Quote:

> Here it is 2006, and NASA *still* has enough headaches trying
> to cope with the challenges (remember the Challenger shuttle?)
> of low-earth orbit manned spacecraft. But things were "easier"
> generations ago, back in the bygone era of sliderules, hippies
> and flower children. Yupp! Back then, the laws of physics were
> a lot easier to deal with than they are now, quite "obviously";
> our technology was far more advanced back then, than it is now... :-D

That is what is so remarkable.  Our nation accomplished
these feats...*despite* our culture being dumbed down,
and ***ed, by "hippies", "flower children", and other
tie-dye wearing, sandal-clod, macrame-weaving deviants.

:o)

Quote:
> *Altitude Comparison Chart of Shuttle vs. Moon & Manmade Satellites:

> *Apollo Moon Missions 1969-1972 Were At Best *Unmanned*:

> *Quasi-Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:

> Enjoy!
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.FoundCollection.com/:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7

>  *Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
>   http://www.FoundCollection.com/

>  *Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> iQA/AwUBRAkYnZljD7YrHM/nEQJjGACgzpkhXaHRjs35zszMBk64Ozf32uwAoIVS
> t39B13ldConbdPvJpb3P+ITD
> =dPlE
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--

Greg Heilers
Registered Linux user #328317 - SlackWare 10.2 (2.6.13)
AUS
    .....

He gets it from your side of the family, you know.  No monsters on my
side.

                -- Homer Simpson
                   Treehouse of Horror II

 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Mike Thoma » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 14:50:30



Quote:

>> Here it is 2006, and NASA *still* has enough headaches trying
>> to cope with the challenges (remember the Challenger shuttle?)
>> of low-earth orbit manned spacecraft. But things were "easier"
>> generations ago, back in the bygone era of sliderules, hippies
>> and flower children. Yupp! Back then, the laws of physics were
>> a lot easier to deal with than they are now, quite "obviously";
>> our technology was far more advanced back then, than it is now... :-D

> That is what is so remarkable.  Our nation accomplished
> these feats...*despite* our culture being dumbed down,
> and ***ed, by "hippies", "flower children", and other
> tie-dye wearing, sandal-clod, macrame-weaving deviants.

Something we all crave.
 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Jack » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:45:57


Quote:

> That is what is so remarkable.  Our nation accomplished
> these feats...*despite* our culture being dumbed down,
> and ***ed, by "hippies", "flower children", and other
> tie-dye wearing, sandal-clod, macrame-weaving deviants.

It wasn't actually dumbed-down until the hippies got old enough to be in
positions of influence.

Jack

 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Georg » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:08:24



Quote:

>> That is what is so remarkable.  Our nation accomplished these
>> feats...*despite* our culture being dumbed down,
>> and ***ed, by "hippies", "flower children", and other
>> tie-dye wearing, sandal-clod, macrame-weaving deviants.

> It wasn't actually dumbed-down until the hippies got old enough to be in
> positions of influence.

> Jack

Umm, I didn't know that Republicans are hippies.

George

 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by W. E. Fred Wallac » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:52:29


Quote:

> That is what is so remarkable.  Our nation accomplished
> these feats...*despite* our culture being dumbed down,
> and ***ed, by "hippies", "flower children", and other
> tie-dye wearing, sandal-clod, macrame-weaving deviants.

> :o)

Yea but those same flower children/hippies are the ones in power now,
and have been for the last 15 to 20 years. What we need is a generation
like my fathers; grew up as kids in the depression and tempered by the
experience of WW2. Remember, hippies are like ***s, "you can take the
***out of the ***, but in the end, you still have the ***", or is
it the other way around, can't quite remember.. Just hold on for a
moment or two; the "me generation" educated in the 80,s will be in
complete control soon, complete with their mentality of greed. Have you
looked at any recent credit or lending contract fine print -- default

of the lender.
 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Nog » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:42:14


Quote:


>> Here it is 2006, and NASA *still* has enough headaches trying
>> to cope with the challenges (remember the Challenger shuttle?)
>> of low-earth orbit manned spacecraft. But things were "easier"
>> generations ago, back in the bygone era of sliderules, hippies
>> and flower children. Yupp! Back then, the laws of physics were
>> a lot easier to deal with than they are now, quite "obviously";
>> our technology was far more advanced back then, than it is now... :-D

> That is what is so remarkable.  Our nation accomplished
> these feats...*despite* our culture being dumbed down,
> and ***ed, by "hippies", "flower children", and other
> tie-dye wearing, sandal-clod, macrame-weaving deviants.

> :o)

>> *Altitude Comparison Chart of Shuttle vs. Moon & Manmade Satellites:


Quote:

>> *Apollo Moon Missions 1969-1972 Were At Best *Unmanned*:


Quote:

>> *Quasi-Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:


Quote:

>> Enjoy!
>> Daniel Joseph Min
>> http://www.FoundCollection.com/:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7

>>  *Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
>>   http://www.FoundCollection.com/

>>  *Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:


Quote:

>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>> iQA/AwUBRAkYnZljD7YrHM/nEQJjGACgzpkhXaHRjs35zszMBk64Ozf32uwAoIVS
>> t39B13ldConbdPvJpb3P+ITD
>> =dPlE
>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Yes but look at how behind we are because of them. We should now have moon
bases, mar bases, orbiting spaceship factories and reaching out across the
galaxy. Instead we are pissing money on Iraq.
 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by W. E. Fred Wallac » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:41:51


One word; HYPOCRISY". For those who stuck by there convictions, I have
the deepest respect. However, look at the former mayor of Washington DC;
Marion was a prominent civil rights activist in the late 50's and 60,s.
Then he capitulated to the seamy side of politics, amongst other vices.
He is but one example.

Other than that, nice rant..(:-)

Quote:

> I look at this post and just shake my head. Seems to be that just because
> there are those who Marched to another drum beat, when they where young,
> that now that they are in the group of people we call Leaders, that there
> are still those who blame them for everything that's gone wrong.

> I grew up during those times, because of the rosey picture my dad painted, I
> went into the Army at age 17 1/2 years, and after almost 2 years in Germany
> I was sent to Vietnam. When I left Ft. Lewis it was as a free man, leaving
> the army and it's not so rosy way of life behind me.

> I also watched as we went to the Moon and did awesome things in space, but I
> also saw our so called 'Leaders' tell us that they where going to give NASA
> more money, but only after they cut out more than they where giving. NASA
> has had to do as much or more with less. I can't help but think that this is
> one major reason for the failures we have seen. When you have to buy from
> the 'cheapest' seller, you get what you pay for, ( I have a picture in my
> mind of NASA pushing a shopping cart through Wal-Mart looking for hardware
> to use on a space probe ).

> Then we have gwb who has an ax to grind, he plays the game of oneupmanship
> with his old man, by starting a war because of data we now know was false
> and now because of how it was handled, we've lost over 2,000 troops killed
> 'After the war' and it's getting worst, it looks to me like another Vietnam
> and I do NOT support that. And still the so called hippies are blamed. To me
> that's a lot of BS.

> --



> > Snipped

 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by dlzc » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:20:05


Dear Starlord:


...

Quote:
> Then we have gwb who has an ax to grind, he plays
> the game of oneupmanship with his old man, by
> starting a war because of data we now know was
> false and now because of how it was handled,
> we've lost over 2,000 troops killed 'After the war'
> and it's getting worst, it looks to me like another
> Vietnam and I do NOT support that.

I don't think Dubya didn't start the war because of bad
information.

I got an email the other day that reeled off the military records
of hosts of actors of yesteryear, and they all had active duty
experience, and some had many commendations.  The email then went
on to hint that we cannot respect those that don't have military
records.

It is really clear that Dubya stated the war to give us more good
actors!

Either that or he did it to attract the terrorists to another
area of the world, where hopefully their suicidal acts don't
affect the corporeal taxpayers of the USA.  Unfortunately, it
does take some of their sons and daughters...

Perhaps he did it at the whim of those Petroleum Sheiks who now
own the lion's share of the assets of the USA.  Such is the price
of an oil-fed economy...

David A. Smith

 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Phil Wheele » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:26:11



Quote:
> Dear Starlord:

...

Quote:
> It is really clear that Dubya stated the war to give us more good
> actors!

David,

I can see you don't have a serious regard for the situation .. or this
forum.

Phil

 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Starlor » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:46:10


Being an actor back in the 20/30/40's is not the same as now. Back then
there was the draft and those that joined. Today there is no draft and a
person can get out of severing many ways easyer than before. gwb's old man
had a little war over there and didn't get the job done, comes along gwb and
then 911 and he says, 'Ah! I can have a little war over there too and this
time do what my old man didn't, win it totaly." only he didn't figure on
opening up the country so that anyone with even a little mad on at the USA
could get into it and make home made bombs and blow up US troops. It's
Vietnam all over again.

The troops have no real say, they go where they are ordered, and we have a
dipstick in office that is nothing more than a war monger.

Even my old unit, the 4th Inf. Div. was re-actived and they are over there
too.

--

The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords



Quote:
> Dear Starlord:



> ...
>> Then we have gwb who has an ax to grind, he plays
>> the game of oneupmanship with his old man, by
>> starting a war because of data we now know was
>> false and now because of how it was handled,
>> we've lost over 2,000 troops killed 'After the war'
>> and it's getting worst, it looks to me like another
>> Vietnam and I do NOT support that.

> I don't think Dubya didn't start the war because of bad information.

> I got an email the other day that reeled off the military records of hosts
> of actors of yesteryear, and they all had active duty experience, and some
> had many commendations.  The email then went on to hint that we cannot
> respect those that don't have military records.

> It is really clear that Dubya stated the war to give us more good actors!

> Either that or he did it to attract the terrorists to another area of the
> world, where hopefully their suicidal acts don't affect the corporeal
> taxpayers of the USA.  Unfortunately, it does take some of their sons and
> daughters...

> Perhaps he did it at the whim of those Petroleum Sheiks who now own the
> lion's share of the assets of the USA.  Such is the price of an oil-fed
> economy...

> David A. Smith

 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Rich » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 06:42:40


On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 08:00:30 -0800, "Starlord"

Quote:

>I look at this post and just shake my head. Seems to be that just because
>there are those who Marched to another drum beat, when they where young,
>that now that they are in the group of people we call Leaders, that there
>are still those who blame them for everything that's gone wrong.

>I grew up during those times, because of the rosey picture my dad painted, I
>went into the Army at age 17 1/2 years, and after almost 2 years in Germany
>I was sent to Vietnam. When I left Ft. Lewis it was as a free man, leaving
>the army and it's not so rosy way of life behind me.

>I also watched as we went to the Moon and did awesome things in space, but I
>also saw our so called 'Leaders' tell us that they where going to give NASA
>more money, but only after they cut out more than they where giving.  

Because the ungrateful spoiled brat jerkoffs from the 1960s "flower
children" generation turned into the jaded jerkoffs of the 1970s who
didn't give a s--- about space exploration.  NASA is and always will
be a victim of public perception.  Now, you've got another liberal
generation whose idiotic preoccupations with New Age nonsense,
squandering as much money as they can and living beyond their means
bodes no better for the space program.
-Rich
 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by Scott Hedric » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:47:27



Quote:

>> Dear Starlord:

> ...

>> It is really clear that Dubya stated the war to give us more good actors!

> David,

> I can see you don't have a serious regard for the situation .. or this
> forum.

No, it's mostly *you*
 
 
 

Space "turkey" to be "done" by 2010

Post by dlzc » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:52:01


Dear Starlord:


Quote:
> Being an actor back in the 20/30/40's is not the
> same as now. Back then there was the draft
> and those that joined.

The draft didn't exist for all the actors.  I wasn't trying to
spoil what you said.  Only sharing some really lousy anti-Dubya
PR that didn't work in 2004, yet is being circulated "again".

Quote:
> Today there is no draft and a person can get out of severing
> many ways
> easyer than before.  gwb's old man had a little
> war over there and didn't get the job done,
> comes along gwb and then 911 and he says,
> 'Ah! I can have a little war over there too and
> this time do what my old man didn't, win it
> totaly." only he didn't figure on opening up
> the country so that anyone with even a little
> mad on at the USA could get into it and make
> home made bombs and blow up US troops.

Are you so sure that they didn't know it was going to attract all
the bombers away from the "USA", and focus their concentration on
their home turf?  I do not discount that our boys and girls are
getting killed.  Theirs are too.  But they aren't getting killed
where the media places it in Ma and Pa Kettle's face everyday.

Quote:
> It's Vietnam all over again.

Except for being on the evening news.  Except for bringing home
the "walking dead", that are so shredded they would not have
survived Vietnam or Korea.

Quote:
> The troops have no real say, they go where they are
> ordered, and we have a dipstick in office that is
> nothing more than a war monger.

He is a "dipstick".  I don't agree with "war monger".  I think he
is doing what he has been told to do.  Oil money got him into
office.  Oil money runs the office.

Quote:
> Even my old unit, the 4th Inf. Div. was re-actived
> and they are over there too.

Understood, sir.

David A. Smith