Splitting RMR/posting ettiquete

Splitting RMR/posting ettiquete

Post by Darrell D. Moble » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

> Sadly, it would more likely result in all your whining being cross posted to
> both groups.

Which would require you whining a response, so total whine count goes exponential.  Don't
even TRY to insinuate you don't participate.  Even if you don't honor your word at
agreements.  Maybe I'll go look up your email and post it.
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Post by Tim » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00


Quote:


> > have been several attempts to get a rec.models.rockets.political, or
> > something equivalent, and all have failed to get enough votes.  It looks
> > like you are stuck wading through posts to find what you want.

> I don't remember a voting stage.
> Did it get that far?

It's one of those Usenet things.  You had to go over to another
newsgroup and voice your "yes or no" opinion about it.  If enough yes
votes were cast...well, I don't remember the exact process, but at least
one of the people who did this process still reads r.m.r. and might give
you the***details.

Tim

 
 
 

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Post by Ted Cochr » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00



Quote:


><snip>

>> However, if you like RMR and just want to get past certain posts/people,
>> add these names to a kill file:

>> John H. Cato
>> Jerry Irvine
>> Darrell Mobley
>> Mike Dumas
>> Tom Swenson (or 69charger, whatever works)

>> That'll kill about 100 posts a day, and you won't miss _any_ technical
>> content.

>I must disagree, Bob -- I've seen significant technical content in a
>goodly number of posts from John Cato (re: recovery, mostly), Jerry
>Irvine (re: motor internals), and Darrell Mobley (a lot of stuff).

>And between the lot, they don't generate more than about 50 postings a
>day, even at the height of the flamewars -- it just seems like more...
>B)

Agreed, mostly.  Two of those listed have gone in and out of my kill file
on several occasions (7-14 day cooling off period :-).  But not all, and I
believe I have seen non-POL content from all of them.  Better to  Kill the
threads, not the posters.  If they drift toward technical content,
hopefully someone will change the topic.  Otherwise, my loss, I guess...

--tc

My opinions only.

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Le » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00




Quote:

> > Sadly, it would more likely result in all your whining being cross posted to
> > both groups.
> Which would require you whining a response, so total whine count goes exponential.  Don't
> even TRY to insinuate you don't participate.  Even if you don't honor your word at
> agreements.  Maybe I'll go look up your email and post it.
> --
> Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest rocketry-oriented
> Internet information.
> "You come here, we'll take you there..."

So what happend to counting to ten before hitting reply? :)

expotentialy
Dave

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Post by DWar » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>The U.S. going to the moon "before this decade is out" comes to mind.  I
>doubt many people thought we could do it in what turned out to be eight
>years.

>Tim

and because we did it in only 8 years, we did it the wrong way and haven't
been back since because of that.

If we had done it incrementally, we'd still have the infrastructure to
return and expand upon.  ~sigh~

Did NASA ever have DotEx numbers or get the motors certified for the Saturn?
What class would they be in?

-Dave

 
 
 

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Post by Tim » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> and because we did it in only 8 years, we did it the wrong way and haven't
> been back since because of that.

> If we had done it incrementally, we'd still have the infrastructure to
> return and expand upon.  ~sigh~

Mabye.  With all the other problems overseas and in the U.S. many people
would have demanded the U.S. focus on our own problems here on earth.
The fact that we were in a race with the Soviets and that we kept up a
pace that kept the public interested, helped us keep the program alive.
That's just another opinion, and not necessarily my own.  I really
haven't thought about it that much.

Quote:
> Did NASA ever have DotEx numbers or get the motors certified for the Saturn?
> What class would they be in?

Alway's book says the first stage is a NAR designated 5 x AC 6,700,000.
The second stage is a  5 x AB 890,000, and the third stage is an AC
890,000.  Notice that the first two stages show a "5 x" since they each
have five motors.  

If you are talking about shipping restrictions...as long as the Saturn
isn't loaded with fuel or it's explosive bolts, etc., and you can talk
UPS into shipping one, there shouldn't be any shipping restrictions.
It's just a huge hunk of aluminum, steel, fiberglass, etc. when it's
empty.  I wonder what my dog would do if a truck big enough for the S1C
stage showed up?

Tim

 
 
 

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Post by -Wiersbe,R. » Thu, 23 Jul 1998 04:00:00



Quote:




>><snip>

>>> That'll kill about 100 posts a day, and you won't miss _any_ technical
>>> content.

>>I must disagree, Bob -- I've seen significant technical content in a
>>goodly number of posts from John Cato (re: recovery, mostly), Jerry
>>Irvine (re: motor internals), and Darrell Mobley (a lot of stuff).

>>And between the lot, they don't generate more than about 50 postings a
>>day, even at the height of the flamewars -- it just seems like more...
>>B)

>Agreed, mostly.  Two of those listed have gone in and out of my kill file
>on several occasions (7-14 day cooling off period :-).  But not all, and I
>believe I have seen non-POL content from all of them.  Better to  Kill the
>threads, not the posters.  If they drift toward technical content,
>hopefully someone will change the topic.  Otherwise, my loss, I guess...

After 7 years of having to pick through the threads to figure out which
ones were political and which had content, I decided that it was much
easier and a better use of my time to just kill the author. The subjects
change too often, and even technical threads get hijacked into political
ones.

Kaplow is the one exception to this rule, and that's because I know him
and make certain allowances.

As far as the ratio goes, out of 130 messages this morning, 23 were killed.
That still left 107 to wade through.

--

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Duma » Thu, 23 Jul 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> After 7 years of having to pick through the threads to figure out which
> ones were political and which had content, I decided that it was much
> easier and a better use of my time to just kill the author...

There Goes Wiersbe again claiming to use Kill Files,
 when he's already admitted 3 times hes lied about putting me in his and the
RMR archives Killfile!

In Bobs mind if the persons Views differ form his then he doesnt want anything,
nomatter how true, useful, enlightening...  including Tech Posts from them.  If
you don't fit into Bobs view of the universe, you shouldnt exist.

I guess the obvious answer to move POL to a seperate NG is just to durn obvious
and logical for Bob to see.

mike

 
 
 

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Post by John H. Cato, Jr » Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> After 7 years of having to pick through the threads to figure out
> which ones were political and which had content, I decided that it
> was much easier and a better use of my time to just kill the author.
> The subjects change too often, and even technical threads get
> hijacked into political ones.

Gee, Bob, that almost sounds like you're describing "life".

Damn shame this hobby is so LIFE-like, huh?

:)

-- john.

(I guess since I'm 'dead' you won't see this -- maybe Kaplow will
forward on over to you.)

 
 
 

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Post by John H. Cato, Jr » Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> In "X's" mind if the persons Views differ form his then he doesnt
> want anything, nomatter how true, useful, enlightening...  including
> Tech Posts from them.  If you don't fit into "X's" view of the
> universe, you shouldnt exist.