Estes offers replacement shock cords

Estes offers replacement shock cords

Post by Fred Shecte » Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:47:16



http://www.estesrockets.com/NEW_SHOCK_CORDS.doc

Wow.

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Estes offers replacement shock cords

Post by Andy » Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:08:52


"Fred Shecter"  wrote,

Quote:

> http://www.estesrockets.com/NEW_SHOCK_CORDS.doc

> Wow.

> -Fred Shecter NAR 20117

Interesting...

Was playing on hole number 12 and having driven the ball straight through
the dogleg, leaving me with a tricky 210 yard approach shot out of thick
bermuda.  Needed to keep the ball low to miss the tree limbs so I took out
the 2-iron and made moderate advancement.  Was walking out of the small pine
grove when of all things, I notice an Estes Executioner laying there sans
shock cord, nose cone and chute though it did have a nice 3" zipper.

Also found that day was one sand wedge at the ninth green and one cell phone
on the 17th tee box.  Found alot of stuff that day except for two nice new
Titleist Pro V1x's.  Both were struck well too, dammit...

Oh yeah...  Shock cords...

Andy

 
 
 

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Post by Bob Kapl » Sat, 09 Oct 2004 02:24:59



Quote:
> http://www.estesrockets.com/NEW_SHOCK_CORDS.doc

> Wow.

What he said. Now if they were LONGER...

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Post by Alan Jone » Sat, 09 Oct 2004 03:18:46




Quote:
>"Fred Shecter"  wrote,

>> http://www.FoundCollection.com/

>> Wow.

>> -Fred Shecter NAR 20117

>Interesting...

>Was playing on hole number 12 and having driven the ball straight through
>the dogleg, leaving me with a tricky 210 yard approach shot out of thick
>bermuda.  Needed to keep the ball low to miss the tree limbs so I took out
>the 2-iron and made moderate advancement.  Was walking out of the small pine
>grove when of all things, I notice an Estes Executioner laying there sans
>shock cord, nose cone and chute though it did have a nice 3" zipper.

>Also found that day was one sand wedge at the ninth green and one cell phone
>on the 17th tee box.  Found alot of stuff that day except for two nice new
>Titleist Pro V1x's.  Both were struck well too, dammit...

Imaagine what you would find if you dredged the water hazzards.

Quote:

>Oh yeah...  Shock cords...

Wow, I did not even know Estes had switched from *** to elastic.
AFAIK, "elastic" is just fiber covered ***. The fiber covering
offers little protection to the *** from the deteriorating effects
of oxygen and UV radiation.  It may offer some protction from ejection
charge heat, but of course Estes claims to have done the field
testing.  In my experience, Sig contest ***, or flight ***,
offers the highest shock aborbing capability/gram at the lowest cost.
You can find better, or cheaper, but Sig is a best buy.  All
elastomers deteriorate over time, and shock cords particularly need
periodic inspection and replacement.  Indeed, on longer term models
one should use a durable leader that facilitates shock cord
replacement.  The white *** that Estes has used is not as good as
the brown Sig ***, however, white stuff seems to have less energy
return or snap back, which would otherwise be desireable.

Alan

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Quote:
>Andy

 
 
 

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Post by Rand » Sat, 09 Oct 2004 03:37:12



Quote:
> The white *** that Estes has used is not as good as
> the brown Sig ***, however,

I've used both and I would give SIG the nod too but eventually, the ***
tends to dry rot and has to be replaced anyway.

Randy

 
 
 

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Post by Jerry Irvin » Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:37:00




Quote:
> http://www.estesrockets.com/NEW_SHOCK_CORDS.doc

I am not sure which is more "shocking", that they did actual tests, or
that they listened to consumer feedback.

Jerry

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Post by Greg Cisk » Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:26:26


Well this is bogus. I have replaced all my estes shock chords with
nylon strap tubing and have been getting dozens of flawless flights
out of a single Big Daddy. I even did so on a Merc Atlas and Merc
Redstone (upgraded to 24mm...) and Estes Honest John.

These babies are bullet proof now.

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Quote:
> http://www.estesrockets.com/NEW_SHOCK_CORDS.doc

> Wow.

> -Fred Shecter NAR 20117

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Post by Greg Cisk » Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:28:47


Well duh let me see... The answer was *** shock chords??? Give me
a F-ing break!!!! That is total BS.

Nylon  Strap tubing is the only answer :-)

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Quote:


> > http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> I am not sure which is more "shocking", that they did actual tests, or
> that they listened to consumer feedback.

> Jerry

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> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration.
> Produce then publish.  http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> Ebay auction deals and specials. http://www.FoundCollection.com/

 
 
 

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Post by David Weinshenke » Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:13:41


Quote:

> Well duh let me see... The answer was *** shock chords??? Give me
> a F-ing break!!!! That is total BS.

> Nylon  Strap tubing is the only answer :-)

And available in LMR-friendly sizes as "snowshoe lacing".

-dave w

 
 
 

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Post by Jerry Irvin » Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:06:25




Quote:
> Well this is bogus. I have replaced all my estes shock chords with
> nylon strap tubing and have been getting dozens of flawless flights
> out of a single Big Daddy. I even did so on a Merc Atlas and Merc
> Redstone (upgraded to 24mm...) and Estes Honest John.

> These babies are bullet proof now.

Estes wanted to reduce its manufacturing cost and source a good
available in China. It did testing to justify its pre-defined answer. I
am just a bit surprised they justified their answer.

I recall them switching to elastic from (fairly mild) pressure from LMR
rocketeers in the 84-92 timeframe.

Are the newer *** cords longer than the old ones?

Jerry

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Post by Jerry Irvin » Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:07:36




Quote:
> Well duh let me see... The answer was *** shock chords??? Give me
> a F-ing break!!!! That is total BS.

> Nylon  Strap tubing is the only answer :-)

Can you source it in China? Can 7 year old kids manipulate it?

Quote:

> --






> > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> > I am not sure which is more "shocking", that they did actual tests, or
> > that they listened to consumer feedback.

Jerry

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Post by Andy E » Sun, 10 Oct 2004 02:44:28




Quote:


>>"Fred Shecter"  wrote,

>>> http://www.FoundCollection.com/

>>> Wow.

>>> -Fred Shecter NAR 20117

>>Interesting...

>>Was playing on hole number 12 and having driven the ball straight through
>>the dogleg, leaving me with a tricky 210 yard approach shot out of thick
>>bermuda.  Needed to keep the ball low to miss the tree limbs so I took out
>>the 2-iron and made moderate advancement.  Was walking out of the small pine
>>grove when of all things, I notice an Estes Executioner laying there sans
>>shock cord, nose cone and chute though it did have a nice 3" zipper.

>>Also found that day was one sand wedge at the ninth green and one cell phone
>>on the 17th tee box.  Found alot of stuff that day except for two nice new
>>Titleist Pro V1x's.  Both were struck well too, dammit...

>Imaagine what you would find if you dredged the water hazzards.

Other balls perhaps but not these two...  

Both of these particular hits *should've" landed no more than a 2 feet
off the fairway.  I think a crepe myrtle bush ate one of them and
wondering if the other cart in the group rolled over the other and
pressed it into the mud. Felt like landing a rocket atop the *only*
tree on the entire field...

Andy

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Quote:
>>Oh yeah...  Shock cords...

>Wow, I did not even know Estes had switched from *** to elastic.
>AFAIK, "elastic" is just fiber covered ***. The fiber covering
>offers little protection to the *** from the deteriorating effects
>of oxygen and UV radiation.  It may offer some protction from ejection
>charge heat, but of course Estes claims to have done the field
>testing.  In my experience, Sig contest ***, or flight ***,
>offers the highest shock aborbing capability/gram at the lowest cost.
>You can find better, or cheaper, but Sig is a best buy.  All
>elastomers deteriorate over time, and shock cords particularly need
>periodic inspection and replacement.  Indeed, on longer term models
>one should use a durable leader that facilitates shock cord
>replacement.  The white *** that Estes has used is not as good as
>the brown Sig ***, however, white stuff seems to have less energy
>return or snap back, which would otherwise be desireable.

>Alan

>>Andy

 
 
 

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Post by Eldre » Sun, 10 Oct 2004 04:02:24


Quote:
>Well this is bogus. I have replaced all my estes shock chords with
>nylon strap tubing and have been getting dozens of flawless flights
>out of a single Big Daddy. I even did so on a Merc Atlas and Merc
>Redstone (upgraded to 24mm...) and Estes Honest John.

>These babies are bullet proof now.

Where do you get the nylon strap tubing from?

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Post by Greg Cisk » Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:47:09


Can you get your junk certified?

:-)

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Quote:


> > Well duh let me see... The answer was *** shock chords??? Give me
> > a F-ing break!!!! That is total BS.

> > Nylon  Strap tubing is the only answer :-)

> Can you source it in China? Can 7 year old kids manipulate it?

> > --






> > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> > > I am not sure which is more "shocking", that they did actual tests, or
> > > that they listened to consumer feedback.

> Jerry

> --
> Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA

> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration.
> Produce then publish.  http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> Ebay auction deals and specials. http://www.FoundCollection.com/

 
 
 

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Post by Greg Cisk » Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:48:05


Al's Hobby Shop in Elmhurst Illinois.

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Quote:
> >Well this is bogus. I have replaced all my estes shock chords with
> >nylon strap tubing and have been getting dozens of flawless flights
> >out of a single Big Daddy. I even did so on a Merc Atlas and Merc
> >Redstone (upgraded to 24mm...) and Estes Honest John.

> >These babies are bullet proof now.

> Where do you get the nylon strap tubing from?

> Eldred
> --
> http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> Screamers League
> IICC League
> GPLRank -6.0    MoGPL rank +267.80
> Ch.Rank +52.58   MoC +741.71
> Hist. +82.34  MoH:na
> N2k3 rank:in progress
> Slayer Spektera lvl 79 assassin
> Slayer Spectral_K lvl 44 Necro
> US East