Former NAR Member... Didn't renew...

Former NAR Member... Didn't renew...

Post by Mark Simpso » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:19:29



Ah, that explains a lot. ;-)

Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II

Quote:



> > Len didn't do enough *** in college.

> Let's not go there...

> len (drummer in a '60s bar band).

 
 
 

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Post by Mark B. Bundi » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:08:43


On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 16:29:01 GMT, David Erbas-White

Quote:

>Speaking of numbers, is there any record, list, or anything anywhere
>that would allow me to find my number from 30 years ago?

We have numbers on file from roughly the mid-1970's on.  If the number
you had was issued earlier than that, then our manual records don't
permit us to search them to find your record.

============================================================================
Mark B. Bundick            NAR President
http://www.nar.org         president - at - nar - dot - org

 
 
 

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Post by Bob Kapl » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:11:28


Quote:

> Speaking of numbers, is there any record, list, or anything anywhere
> that would allow me to find my number from 30 years ago?

Sadly, no. Until the mid 80s, NAR HQ was a paper shop. No searchable
computer records prior to then. If you can find an old card or anything with
your number on it, you can ask for the old one back. If you were a member
any time after computerization (1982? 1985?) they can search the database
and find you.

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                >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<
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        is such that governments can usually arrange it so that only
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Post by Bob Kapl » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:13:00



Quote:
> You don't mention certification issues.... I may be wrong here, but I believe
> that a lapse in membership, assuming that you were not a member of TRA/CAR,
> would mean that your certification(s) lapsed as well and would have to be
> redone from scratch. Seems to me.

He didn't ask about certification, but you are correct. IIRC both NAR and
TRA allow a 1 year grace period after which you have to start over with all
your HPR certifications.

        Bob Kaplow      NAR # 18L       TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
                >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<
Kaplow Klips & Baffle:      http://www.pleimling.org/le/Phantom4000.pdf
NIRA:   http://www.nira-rocketry.org    NAR:    http://www.nar.org

        26-October, 2001: A day that will live in infamy
        Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/

        The problem with governments is that citizens need to keep
        them on a short leash; unfortunately the nature of the beast
        is such that governments can usually arrange it so that only
        they hold their own leash.

 
 
 

Former NAR Member... Didn't renew...

Post by Bob Kapl » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:15:34



Quote:
> In article


>> You don't mention certification issues.... I may be wrong here, but I believe
>> that a lapse in membership, assuming that you were not a member of TRA/CAR,
>> would mean that your certification(s) lapsed as well and would have to be
>> redone from scratch. Seems to me.

>> Murray

> That's the policy.  A bad policy IMHO.

It's the same policy as drivers licenses with the DMV. In fact, it's even
more generous than the DMV, as I don't believe they allow a one year grace
period if your drivers license lapses.

Contact your state legislators and see how they feel about someone who
hasn't driven for 10 years getting their license back without re-testing...

        Bob Kaplow      NAR # 18L       TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
                >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<
Kaplow Klips & Baffle:      http://www.pleimling.org/le/Phantom4000.pdf
NIRA:   http://www.nira-rocketry.org    NAR:    http://www.nar.org

        26-October, 2001: A day that will live in infamy
        Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/

        The problem with governments is that citizens need to keep
        them on a short leash; unfortunately the nature of the beast
        is such that governments can usually arrange it so that only
        they hold their own leash.

 
 
 

Former NAR Member... Didn't renew...

Post by Bob Kapl » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:17:27



Quote:
> Then there are a few people who never let their NAR membership lapse...

> Jonathan Rains
> NAR #13911

> Then again I don't remember my AMA number from when we had to belong to AMA
> for insurance.

I do :-) Since I joined the AMA BEFORE we got our insurance through them.
Had a hell of a time convincing someone at NARAM-20? that my AMA card was
acceptable for NAR insurance (optional back then, but manditory for
competition).

        Bob Kaplow      NAR # 18L       TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
                >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<
Kaplow Klips & Baffle:      http://www.pleimling.org/le/Phantom4000.pdf
NIRA:   http://www.nira-rocketry.org    NAR:    http://www.nar.org

        26-October, 2001: A day that will live in infamy
        Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/

        The problem with governments is that citizens need to keep
        them on a short leash; unfortunately the nature of the beast
        is such that governments can usually arrange it so that only
        they hold their own leash.

 
 
 

Former NAR Member... Didn't renew...

Post by Bob Kapl » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:18:33


Quote:

>>That's the policy.  A bad policy IMHO.

> If we passed cert once, how hard could it be to do it again? I think it's
> easier to forget things than to remember. Look at it as a refresher course.
> When was the last time anyone grabbed your launch lugs and gave them a good
> shake? It's something too often taken forgranted.

And to extend my drivers license analogy, they make you retest every so
often even if you don't lapse. Perhaps the NAR and TRA *SHOULD* change their
policies...

        Bob Kaplow      NAR # 18L       TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
                >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<
Kaplow Klips & Baffle:      http://www.pleimling.org/le/Phantom4000.pdf
NIRA:   http://www.nira-rocketry.org    NAR:    http://www.nar.org

        26-October, 2001: A day that will live in infamy
        Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/

        The problem with governments is that citizens need to keep
        them on a short leash; unfortunately the nature of the beast
        is such that governments can usually arrange it so that only
        they hold their own leash.

 
 
 

Former NAR Member... Didn't renew...

Post by David Erbas-Whit » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:16:07


Mark,

Thanks for the reply, I probably just missed the cutoff.  I was a member
from the late 60s to early 70s (I think).  If anyone ever 'computerizes'
or copies those past files, please post it for reference (not that I
expect it to happen, but heck, I didn't expect the internet in the 70's,
either).

Thanks again, I didn't expect a direct response, more of a 'generic'
response from the gang.

David Erbas-White

Quote:

> On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 16:29:01 GMT, David Erbas-White

> >Speaking of numbers, is there any record, list, or anything anywhere
> >that would allow me to find my number from 30 years ago?

> We have numbers on file from roughly the mid-1970's on.  If the number
> you had was issued earlier than that, then our manual records don't
> permit us to search them to find your record.

> ============================================================================
> Mark B. Bundick            NAR President
> http://www.nar.org         president - at - nar - dot - org

 
 
 

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Post by Mark Simpso » Sat, 17 Aug 2002 07:27:26


I got a notice in the mail recently. I have to go in and take a written
test to get my license renewed since it has been 8 years since I last
did it in person.

Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II

Quote:

> And to extend my drivers license analogy, they make you retest every so
> often even if you don't lapse. Perhaps the NAR and TRA *SHOULD* change their
> policies...

 
 
 

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Post by Woody Mille » Sat, 17 Aug 2002 07:56:09


Last time I renewed my license here in AZ (maybe 5 years back), it was given an
expiration date in 2018!  To avoid needless paperwork, AZ lets you get a single
license until you turn 60!  (I wonder if the picture will still look like me
when I turn 60!)
Quote:

> I got a notice in the mail recently. I have to go in and take a written
> test to get my license renewed since it has been 8 years since I last
> did it in person.

> Mark Simpson
> NAR 71503 Level II


>>And to extend my drivers license analogy, they make you retest every so
>>often even if you don't lapse. Perhaps the NAR and TRA *SHOULD* change their
>>policies...

 
 
 

Former NAR Member... Didn't renew...

Post by Steve Piett » Mon, 19 Aug 2002 04:27:39


Quote:

> To avoid needless paperwork, AZ lets you get a single license until
> you turn 60!  (I wonder if the picture will still look like me
> when I turn 60!)

Depends on what you look like now. :)

Steve