parent burned trying to retrieve 'toy rocket'

parent burned trying to retrieve 'toy rocket'

Post by Jim Yan » Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:00:00



I found this on the USA Today website;
http://www.usatoday.com/news/digest/nd1.htm

It was not clear if this was a model rocket,but it seems likely.

Jim Yanik,NRA member

 
 
 

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Post by Ted Cochr » Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

>I found this on the USA Today website;
>http://www.usatoday.com/news/digest/nd1.htm

>It was not clear if this was a model rocket,but it seems likely.

Also see http://www.kcbs2.com/news/stories/news-990920-083116.html and
http://www.msnbc.com/local/knbc/211724.asp

for more details and pictures of this tragedy.

--tc

My opinions only.

 
 
 

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Post by Kristian Sorense » Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Well, I saw the local news report the day this happened.  Yes it was a model
rocket, they showed some footage of that familiar Estes orange and white
parachute fluttering from the power lines.

Apparently the rocket landed in the power lines and the parent tried to
retrieve it.  Well, first of all... He SHOULD NOT have attempted this.  We
all know why.  Second, There are STRICT laws in California in regards to
unsupervised model rocket launches.  And finally, to make matters worse, he
used a metal ladder and an aluminum pole to knock it out of the lines.
STOOOPID!

My instincts tell me that this is the kind of guy who is responsible for all
those warning labels on portable hair dryers telling you not to use them in
the shower.  There is a Darwinian lesson here if ever there was.

My friends of the SCRA, we should contact the news and invite them to our
next scheduled launch at Lucerne next weekend...  To show them how it should
be done.  We don't need bad press.

Kristian Sorensen
NAR# 31529
http://www.alphacompany.com/rocket/

http://home.earthlink.net/~mebowitz/


Quote:
> I found this on the USA Today website;
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/digest/nd1.htm
> It was not clear if this was a model rocket,but it seems likely.
> Jim Yanik,NRA member

 
 
 

parent burned trying to retrieve 'toy rocket'

Post by DCastle8 » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00


This should be posted all over the place as a reminder to everyone of the
dangers of trying to retrieve a rocket from a power line...
 
 
 

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Post by Gene Costanz » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00


I wonder if his $150,000-$300,000 hospital bill was worth this $10
rocket. 65% of his body? Might be his $5000 funeral.

After I cinched the body tube on my Black Brant, I mentioned to a friend
that I spent about 3-4 hours fixing a $15 rocket. She almost collapsed
in hysterics ("How much do you bill per hour?! Multiply that by 3 or 4
hours! <yuckyuckyuckyuck>")

I don't feel so stupid anymore...

 
 
 

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Post by Fred Shecte » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00


1)  The newsfeed to boeing has been FUBAR so I've not seen r.m.r. since
Friday.
2)  I heard this report yesterday morning (Monday) on the way to work
and immediately searched for the report on the web.  I found the report
at http://www.channel2000.com
3)  I e-mailed the local SCRA folks who communicate by e-mail to let
them know i was aware of this.
4)  I e-mailed the CBS folks locally to let them know the facts about
the NAR Safety Code and our local club.  SCRA has a launch site just a
few miles from this tragedy and we had a launch the day before!
5)  I contacted our fire inspector from LA County Fire to see if he
wanted to use this as an opportunity to stress safety to the public.  he
referred me to the LA County Fire Community Relations folks and the City
of Monrovia Fire Department (the jurisdiction where this occurred).
6)  I phoned both of them and left detailed messages offering our help
in raising public awareness of the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code and
permit requirements for launching Model Rockets in California.  I also
explained our free and open to the public launches at the local park.
7)  e-mail response from CBS told me that my info was forwrded to the
producer and they would call me if they need more info for a follow up
story.
8)  A Battallion Cheif from Monrovia called me and spoke for a LONG
time.  He REALLY appreciated the info we have on the website and at the
NAR website.  He also was distressed that not all retailers inform their
customers of the California permit requirements.  I pointed out that I
had visited the Michael's in Monrovia on Saturday (the day before this
tragedy) to re-supply them with "LAUNCH SITE INFO:" stickers and fresh
copies of the Estes supplied age limit signs.  (Some of our club members
were supposed to have hit the Wal-Mart up there, but I don't know if
anyone has returned to re-sticker in a while.)  I also pointed out that
the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code is included in all engine packs and
Starter Sets (and probably most kits).
9)  I'm mailing him a packet of info today, but he probably got a good
education from the NAR website and our SCRA website.
10)  I called Estes yesterday to warn them, and faxed a hardcopy of the
news article to Mary Roberts.  This was a clear Safety Code violation
and there was no fire department permit for this launch.  Reports say
that there was an Estes logo visible on the parachute.  I haven't seen
or confirmed this.

More info when I get it.

-Fred Shecter NAR 20117

Quote:

> I found this on the USA Today website;
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/digest/nd1.htm

> It was not clear if this was a model rocket,but it seems likely.

> Jim Yanik,NRA member

 
 
 

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Post by Fred Shecte » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Your post just popped in.  I hope you've read my post as well.  I'll
send your e-mail address over to my PC so that I can include you in
future e-mailings.

Kristian Sorensen

Quote:

> Well, I saw the local news report the day this happened.  Yes it was a model
> rocket, they showed some footage of that familiar Estes orange and white
> parachute fluttering from the power lines.

> Apparently the rocket landed in the power lines and the parent tried to
> retrieve it.  Well, first of all... He SHOULD NOT have attempted this.  We
> all know why.  Second, There are STRICT laws in California in regards to
> unsupervised model rocket launches.  And finally, to make matters worse, he
> used a metal ladder and an aluminum pole to knock it out of the lines.
> STOOOPID!

> My instincts tell me that this is the kind of guy who is responsible for all
> those warning labels on portable hair dryers telling you not to use them in
> the shower.  There is a Darwinian lesson here if ever there was.

> My friends of the SCRA, we should contact the news and invite them to our
> next scheduled launch at Lucerne next weekend...  To show them how it should
> be done.  We don't need bad press.

> Kristian Sorensen
> NAR# 31529
> http://www.alphacompany.com/rocket/

> http://home.earthlink.net/~mebowitz/



> > I found this on the USA Today website;
> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/digest/nd1.htm
> > It was not clear if this was a model rocket,but it seems likely.
> > Jim Yanik,NRA member

 
 
 

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Post by bajama » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00


AAARRRRGGGGUHHHH!!!  Why was the "TOY ROCKET" so critical to the news
report?  The real problem was some IDIOT did just about everything wrong
that he could in attempting to retrieve an object from a powerline.  Not to
be too cruel here, and I certainly hope, for his kid's sake, that he
recovers and can live a productive life...but JESUS!  How stupid can one be?

Quote:
> I found this on the USA Today website;
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/digest/nd1.htm

> It was not clear if this was a model rocket,but it seems likely.

> Jim Yanik,NRA member

 
 
 

parent burned trying to retrieve 'toy rocket'

Post by nojun » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> 10)  I called Estes yesterday to warn them, and faxed a hardcopy of the
> news article to Mary Roberts.  This was a clear Safety Code violation
> and there was no fire department permit for this launch.  Reports say
> that there was an Estes logo visible on the parachute.  I haven't seen
> or confirmed this.

Even with the violations of state law, ignoring the Safety Code,
complete lack of common sense, and all of the information that is
distributed with every rocket, pack of motors, and everywhere else you
look, I'm willing to bet that Estes gets sued for not having a "Don't
try to recover rockets from power lines with a metal pole, you idiot!"
warning in fluorescent green lettering 3" high on an 8x14" fluorescent
red label on every kit, starter kit, launcher, motor pack, and pack of
igniters.

--
Mike
NAR #70953 - Sr/Insured/Level-1 ~ SeaNAR - The Seattle NAR Section #568
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