LOC Aura question

LOC Aura question

Post by BRMut » Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Hi all,
  I need a bit of advice from an Aura owner.  Is the streamer provided in the
kit sufficient?  I'm worried about snapping a fin on landing, and I found that
my Onyx's parachute was definitely too small.

Thanks in advance

Fly straight and true!

MikeyR

 
 
 

LOC Aura question

Post by Gene » Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Mike, nah, it's OK, but for visibility's sake with the big motors
(G25/-40/-80/-125), you may consider buying a larger one like the Top
Flite 6 x 60" OR, if you're creative about packing it, a 7 x 70" is
nice, too.

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LOC Aura question

Post by Alex Merica » Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00


I've flown my Aura with the streamer and with an Estes 18" Nylon Parachute.
I use the streamer for windy days and the parachute for calm days.  I've had
to repair every fin on the rocket.  It's still one of my favorite rockets.

Quote:

>   I need a bit of advice from an Aura owner.  Is the streamer provided in the
> kit sufficient?  I'm worried about snapping a fin on landing, and I found that
> my Onyx's parachute was definitely too small.

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LOC Aura question

Post by nojun » Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>   I need a bit of advice from an Aura owner.  Is the streamer provided in the
> kit sufficient?  I'm worried about snapping a fin on landing, and I found that
> my Onyx's parachute was definitely too small.

The streamer is OK, but expect to break a fin on just about every
landing unless you make a few minor mods on the rocket.  If you use a
chute you stand a very good chance of having it drift away, especially
if you're flying it on F or G motors.  The Aura is a heavy rocket for
its size, especially with the nosecone that LOC uses, but the couple
I've seen on chutes drifted a long way.

On my Aura I slotted the BT and cut tabs onto the fin root edges and
made them through-the-wall and attached them to the motor mount.  The
fins are about 1/4" shorter, but I haven't popped one off yet.  

Abby has had to repair and reglue fins after just about every flight,
after using epoxy rivets in the original construction.  We both thought
that it would be strong enough, but the rocket is sitting hereright now
with one fin and fillet peeled completely away from the rest of the BT.

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LOC Aura question

Post by Andy En » Wed, 01 Dec 1999 04:00:00


Hello All,


Quote:

> >   I need a bit of advice from an Aura owner.  Is the streamer
provided in the
> > kit sufficient?  I'm worried about snapping a fin on landing, and I
found that
> > my Onyx's parachute was definitely too small.

> The streamer is OK, but expect to break a fin on just about every
> landing unless you make a few minor mods on the rocket.  If you use a
> chute you stand a very good chance of having it drift away, especially
> if you're flying it on F or G motors.  The Aura is a heavy rocket for
> its size, especially with the nosecone that LOC uses, but the couple
> I've seen on chutes drifted a long way.

> On my Aura I slotted the BT and cut tabs onto the fin root edges and
> made them through-the-wall and attached them to the motor mount.  The
> fins are about 1/4" shorter, but I haven't popped one off yet.

> Abby has had to repair and reglue fins after just about every flight,
> after using epoxy rivets in the original construction.  We both
thought
> that it would be strong enough, but the rocket is sitting hereright
now
> with one fin and fillet peeled completely away from the rest of the

BT.

My Aura was my first kit in the heavier rockets. Life hasn't been the
same since :-)

Anyway, I've flown it on everything from a D12-3 to an H90-10.  The only
two times the fin broke were on the D12's & a streamer early on.  I've
since called this period in a rocket's life the 'breaking in' period for
if they survive these flights (don't necessarily have to stay in one
piece), they'll tend last a good while longer.  My minor mod in this
case was more epoxy :-)

Just yesterday, it flew on an F20-7 Econojet with an 18" nylon chute
that was reefed all the way up just one inch shy of all the way -- a
trick I read from some of those hard core BBII fliers from the
northwest.  It came down pretty close despite the breeze so I think I'm
on to something ;-)

Regards,
Andy

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LOC Aura question

Post by JDcluste » Sun, 05 Dec 1999 04:00:00


Try replacing the shock cord with 1/4 " tubular nylon .

JD

Quote:


> >Hi all,
> >  I need a bit of advice from an Aura owner.  Is the streamer provided in the
> >kit sufficient?  I'm worried about snapping a fin on landing, and I found that
> >my Onyx's parachute was definitely too small.

> I've flown my mostly stock Aura on an Aerotech F50-9T and a G40-10W
> engine. Both times the rocket landed in a plowed field.  No fins were
> damaged, just a bit of paint was scuffed. The streamer was singed in
> the last flight and replaced. You may want to replace the elastic
> shock cord with something better. I might try some thin diameter cord
> I've seen at a hiker/climber shop.

> On the G40 flight we could see only the ejection charge at apogee and
> missed it completely on the way down. I did recover it after walking
> out to the area I suspected that it would land in.

> FWIW the kit was assembled using "30 minute" NHP epoxy with the fins
> having a 6 mm radius of epoxy/filler. The fins themselves were later
> given a coat of CA glue at the trailing edges for strength. They then
> had two coats of Tite-Bond over the entire fin, primarily for a smooth
> paint finish.

> Brian Cripps

> NAPAS, CAR, Tripoli

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LOC Aura question

Post by Brian Crip » Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
>Hi all,
>  I need a bit of advice from an Aura owner.  Is the streamer provided in the
>kit sufficient?  I'm worried about snapping a fin on landing, and I found that
>my Onyx's parachute was definitely too small.

I've flown my mostly stock Aura on an Aerotech F50-9T and a G40-10W
engine. Both times the rocket landed in a plowed field.  No fins were
damaged, just a bit of paint was scuffed. The streamer was singed in
the last flight and replaced. You may want to replace the elastic
shock cord with something better. I might try some thin diameter cord
I've seen at a hiker/climber shop.

On the G40 flight we could see only the ejection charge at apogee and
missed it completely on the way down. I did recover it after walking
out to the area I suspected that it would land in.

FWIW the kit was assembled using "30 minute" NHP epoxy with the fins
having a 6 mm radius of epoxy/filler. The fins themselves were later
given a coat of CA glue at the trailing edges for strength. They then
had two coats of Tite-Bond over the entire fin, primarily for a smooth
paint finish.

Brian Cripps

NAPAS, CAR, Tripoli

 
 
 

LOC Aura question

Post by Lcku » Wed, 08 Dec 1999 04:00:00


On a windy day last year my Aura and another both snapped a fin on landing.
The repair was to put some fiberglass tape in the fillet and add some epoxy.  i
also changed to a small chute.  However this past weekend I didn't want too
much drift coming down from 1700' (F24-7) so I put on a 4"X40" nylon streamer.
It hit kind of hard but undamaged.  It's a fairly sturdy little ***.

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LOC Aura question

Post by Mark Simpso » Thu, 09 Dec 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> Hello All,



> > >   I need a bit of advice from an Aura owner.  Is the streamer
> provided in the
> > > kit sufficient?  I'm worried about snapping a fin on landing, and I
> found that
> > > my Onyx's parachute was definitely too small.

> > The streamer is OK, but expect to break a fin on just about every
> > landing unless you make a few minor mods on the rocket.  If you use a
> > chute you stand a very good chance of having it drift away, especially
> > if you're flying it on F or G motors.  The Aura is a heavy rocket for
> > its size, especially with the nosecone that LOC uses, but the couple
> > I've seen on chutes drifted a long way.

> > On my Aura I slotted the BT and cut tabs onto the fin root edges and
> > made them through-the-wall and attached them to the motor mount.  The
> > fins are about 1/4" shorter, but I haven't popped one off yet.

> > Abby has had to repair and reglue fins after just about every flight,
> > after using epoxy rivets in the original construction.  We both
> thought
> > that it would be strong enough, but the rocket is sitting hereright
> now
> > with one fin and fillet peeled completely away from the rest of the
> BT.

> My Aura was my first kit in the heavier rockets. Life hasn't been the
> same since :-)

> Anyway, I've flown it on everything from a D12-3 to an H90-10.  The only
> two times the fin broke were on the D12's & a streamer early on.  I've
> since called this period in a rocket's life the 'breaking in' period for
> if they survive these flights (don't necessarily have to stay in one
> piece), they'll tend last a good while longer.  My minor mod in this
> case was more epoxy :-)

> Just yesterday, it flew on an F20-7 Econojet with an 18" nylon chute
> that was reefed all the way up just one inch shy of all the way -- a
> trick I read from some of those hard core BBII fliers from the
> northwest.  It came down pretty close despite the breeze so I think I'm
> on to something ;-)

> Regards,
> Andy

Andy,
I used one of the cheapie ($3.99) PML 22" X-form surplus chutes in my
LOC  LIL Nuke and it behaved almost like a streamer.  No need to reef
that one. ;-)

Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II