LOC Stovi Questions ???

LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by Rocket90 » Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:28:12



Has any one built the LOC Stovi ?  That't the one that has 6 tubes at the base
at the bottom like the Saturn 1, with six fins in the grooves between the
tubes. It is designed for 24mm motors, but later kits had a 29mm option.

 I was wondering how that 29mm workered. I understand how the 24mm worked, but
does the 29mm option omit the central tube that the motor goes in and depend on
the 6 surrounding tubes to hold and center the motor ?

Thanks for your input

John K.

 
 
 

LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by Barry Lync » Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:00:00


The 29mm option replaces the central 24mm tube with the included 29mm tube.
This changes the size requirements of the 6 surrounding tubes.  Each of
these 6 tubes are split lengthwise and glued to the main 29mm tube.  These
look like a "C" with approximately 3/16" of an opening which adheres to  the
main 29mm tube. It is probably the most challenging kit in the LOC line when
built with this option (but it does look quite cool IMHO)
I can post a picture of the completed motor mount if you like - or email me.
Barry ***


Quote:
> Has any one built the LOC Stovi ?  That't the one that has 6 tubes at the
base
> at the bottom like the Saturn 1, with six fins in the grooves between the
> tubes. It is designed for 24mm motors, but later kits had a 29mm option.

>  I was wondering how that 29mm workered. I understand how the 24mm worked,
but
> does the 29mm option omit the central tube that the motor goes in and
depend on
> the 6 surrounding tubes to hold and center the motor ?

> Thanks for your input

> John K.


 
 
 

LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by Chip Jenkin » Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:00:00


I can send you a picture of a finished Stovi with a 29mm mount, I'll
send it to you after I take a photo.  I used blind tee nuts too, I can
show you how I did that.  You cannot launch it with an H128 if you use
the 24mm tube.  Although LOC does not recommend that you use the H128,
if you build it solid (like I did) it will handle it.  

I re-calculated the space required to cut the 24mm tubes and marked them
with dial calipers, extended the lines with angle aluminum, and cut them
VERY carefully with a new x-acto blade.  Take your time on each cut, it
took me about a dozen passes on each line to complete the cuts.

Quote:

> The 29mm option replaces the central 24mm tube with the included 29mm tube.
> This changes the size requirements of the 6 surrounding tubes.  Each of
> these 6 tubes are split lengthwise and glued to the main 29mm tube.  These
> look like a "C" with approximately 3/16" of an opening which adheres to  the
> main 29mm tube. It is probably the most challenging kit in the LOC line when
> built with this option (but it does look quite cool IMHO)
> I can post a picture of the completed motor mount if you like - or email me.
> Barry ***



> > Has any one built the LOC Stovi ?  That't the one that has 6 tubes at the
> base
> > at the bottom like the Saturn 1, with six fins in the grooves between the
> > tubes. It is designed for 24mm motors, but later kits had a 29mm option.

> >  I was wondering how that 29mm workered. I understand how the 24mm worked,
> but
> > does the 29mm option omit the central tube that the motor goes in and
> depend on
> > the 6 surrounding tubes to hold and center the motor ?

> > Thanks for your input

> > John K.

 
 
 

LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by Bob Kapl » Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> I can send you a picture of a finished Stovi with a 29mm mount, I'll
> send it to you after I take a photo.  I used blind tee nuts too, I can
> show you how I did that.  You cannot launch it with an H128 if you use
> the 24mm tube.  Although LOC does not recommend that you use the H128,
> if you build it solid (like I did) it will handle it.  

> I re-calculated the space required to cut the 24mm tubes and marked them
> with dial calipers, extended the lines with angle aluminum, and cut them
> VERY carefully with a new x-acto blade.  Take your time on each cut, it
> took me about a dozen passes on each line to complete the cuts.

Sounds like a simple job for a band saw with a rip fence installed.

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LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by Mike Leffle » Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:00:00


I built my Stovi with the 29mm mount and found the cuts easy to make in the
outboard tubes.  I also placed 1/4" thick wooden "plugs" in 2 of the
outboard tubes to hold 8-32 threaded brass inserts for use with motor
retention clips.  Its a great kit and flys wonderfully on G75's.  If only
Barry would come up with some C.C.C.P. decals to fit the Soviet design.

Mike

Quote:
> Has any one built the LOC Stovi ?  That't the one that has 6 tubes at the
base
> at the bottom like the Saturn 1, with six fins in the grooves between the
> tubes. It is designed for 24mm motors, but later kits had a 29mm option.

>  I was wondering how that 29mm workered. I understand how the 24mm worked,
but
> does the 29mm option omit the central tube that the motor goes in and
depend on
> the 6 surrounding tubes to hold and center the motor ?

> Thanks for your input

> John K.

 
 
 

LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by Chip Jenkin » Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


> > I can send you a picture of a finished Stovi with a 29mm mount, I'll
> > send it to you after I take a photo.  I used blind tee nuts too, I can
> > show you how I did that.  You cannot launch it with an H128 if you use
> > the 24mm tube.  Although LOC does not recommend that you use the H128,
> > if you build it solid (like I did) it will handle it.

> > I re-calculated the space required to cut the 24mm tubes and marked them
> > with dial calipers, extended the lines with angle aluminum, and cut them
> > VERY carefully with a new x-acto blade.  Take your time on each cut, it
> > took me about a dozen passes on each line to complete the cuts.

> Sounds like a simple job for a band saw with a rip fence installed.

I think using a band saw for this would be like using a chain saw to
carve the thanksgiving turkey.

The cuts with the blade were exact and clean.  In this case, getting it
done fast is not necessary.

Chip

 
 
 

LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by rekrap.. » Sun, 17 Dec 2000 07:33:02


Definitely build it 29mm instead of 24mm.  It is
only a little harder to do.  The 24mm is too
limiting for a model as heavy as a Stovi, but 29
mm allows you to go up to "I."  I did my L1
certification on my Stovi, and it went great.

Jim Parker


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Quote:
> Has any one built the LOC Stovi ?  That't the

one that has 6 tubes at the base
Quote:
> at the bottom like the Saturn 1, with six fins

in the grooves between the
Quote:
> tubes. It is designed for 24mm motors, but

later kits had a 29mm option.
Quote:

>  I was wondering how that 29mm workered. I

understand how the 24mm worked, but
Quote:
> does the 29mm option omit the central tube that

the motor goes in and depend on

Quote:
> the 6 surrounding tubes to hold and center the
motor ?

> Thanks for your input

> John K.

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LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by Chip Jenkin » Sun, 17 Dec 2000 10:46:16


Quote:

> Definitely build it 29mm instead of 24mm.  It is
> only a little harder to do.  The 24mm is too
> limiting for a model as heavy as a Stovi, but 29
> mm allows you to go up to "I."  I did my L1
> certification on my Stovi, and it went great.

> Jim Parker

It does allow an "I" but, good golly man, how far will that sucker go on
an I-200?  I regularly launch mine on an H-128 (which is an awesome
flight).  Haven't put anything larger than that in it yet.  Heck, I
cannot snap a picture fast enough with the H-128 in it.

Chip "buy a stovi, build a 29mm, it's great" Jenkins

 
 
 

LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by John Hatta » Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:23:36


Quote:

>Definitely build it 29mm instead of 24mm.  It is
>only a little harder to do.  The 24mm is too
>limiting for a model as heavy as a Stovi, but 29
>mm allows you to go up to "I."  I did my L1
>certification on my Stovi, and it went great.

Agree. With a 24mm mount, you're pretty-much limited to an F101 or a
G55. Flies nicely on both, but it'd be nice to be able to fly it on a
big variety of motors. It's plenty tough enough for H and I motors.

---
John Hattan   Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology

 
 
 

LOC Stovi Questions ???

Post by rekrap.. » Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:15:52



Quote:


> > Definitely build it 29mm instead of 24mm.  It is
> > only a little harder to do.  The 24mm is too
> > limiting for a model as heavy as a Stovi, but 29
> > mm allows you to go up to "I."  I did my L1
> > certification on my Stovi, and it went great.

> > Jim Parker

> It does allow an "I" but, good golly man, how far will that sucker go
on
> an I-200?  I regularly launch mine on an H-128 (which is an awesome
> flight).  Haven't put anything larger than that in it yet.  Heck, I
> cannot snap a picture fast enough with the H-128 in it.

> Chip "buy a stovi, build a 29mm, it's great" Jenkins

My Stovi RockSims at 4,200' on an I-200.  The weather has been too
cloudy or too windy to try it since I got the motor.  I need to wait
for good weather because I only have motor ejection, and I want to get
it back.  I hope I can do it soon.

Jim Parker

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