Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by John Missin » Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.

[everything that should never have been posted is snipped]

This is a deeply offensive post for any number of reasons.  Ms. Mince,
and anyone on whose behalf she is acting, should receive the strongest
possible censure of this group.

 
 
 

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by Stephen DeArma » Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.  The message
> may be considered controversial by some.  It is matter of public record in
> the California courts.  Please do not respond the sender, I am just posting
> for Dr. Kosdon, who does not have a computer nor net access.  I personally
> am taking no sides in the following information.

> It is up to the reader to decide if it is right or wrong.

> The executive summary;

> After losing a recent fraud lawsuit to several people in California, Jerry
> files a motion to hold his ex-wife responsible for 1/2 of the ~$35,000 in
> fines and ~$60,000 in court costs resulting from the fraud lawsuit.

> The message below contains a scanned in document from a legal motion from
> Jerry Irvine regarding his past marriage dissolution as proof.  Ther has
> been very little editing, only to correct OCR errors.  Please pardon the
> messy look, I had a copy of copy to scan.  A copy of the original can be
> had by calling Dr. Kosdon if further proof is needed.

> Enjoy!

> **************************************************************
> In re Marriage of Irvine

> Case No. KDO17493

> ATTACHMENT 3d to:

> NOTICE OF MOTION FOR ADJUDICATION

> OF UNADJUDICATED COMMUNITY DEBTS

> BACKGROUND

> On or about June 15, 1994, the Court entered judgment of dissolution in
> this matter. On or about

> August 5, 1994, the Court entered a modification of that judgment. Neither
> of these judgments

> divided the community debts of the parties. This was due, in large part,
> to civil litigation that was in

> progress at the time of the dissolution proceedings involving the
> community's business. it was

> unclear at that time what debts the parties would have, therefore, it was
> left for determination at a

> later date.

> The civil proceedings were finalized on September 12, 1996. As a result,
> the community now

> owes for a judgment in the amount of $35,537.34. Petitioner was also
> forced to pay $60,900.00 in

> attorney's fees and expenses in order to defend and prosecute this matter.

> In addition to the judgment and attorneys fees and expenses, many other
> community debts were

> left unadjudicated as well. Petitioner now seeks to have the parties
> community debts determined

> by this Court one half of these debts to Petitioner and one half to
> Respondent.

> ARGUMENT

>         a.  Property That Is Acquired During the Marriage Is Community Property

> Except as otherwise provided by statue, all property, real or

> personal, wherever situated, acquired by a married person during

> the marriage while domiciled in this state is community property."

> Family Code ?760.

>         b.  The Court Retains Jurisdiction over Community Debts That Were Left
> Unadjudicated

> In a proceeding for dissolution of marriage, . . . the court has

> continuing Jurisdiction to award . . . community estate liabilities to

> tow parties that have not been previously adjudicated by a

> judgment in the proceeding Family Code ?2556.

> CONCLUSION

> Petitioner, JERRY IRVINE, hereby requests that this Court make a
> determination of the

> community debts of the parties and attribute  one half of such debts to
> Petitioner and

> one half to Respondent.

> Dated: November 15. 1996

> Respectfully Submitted,

> Jerry Irvine

> ln Petitioner In Pro Per

> In re Marriage of Irvine

> Case No. KDO17493

> ATTACHMENT 3e to:

> NOTICE OF MOTION FOR ADJUDICATION

> OF UNADJUDICATED COMMUNITY DEBTS

> , Jerry Irvine, do hereby declare and state as follows:

> 1. 1 am Petitioner in the above entitled matter and if called to testify,
> I would and could competently do so as to the following facts:

> 2. Before and during the dissolution proceedings, I was involved in a
> civil litigation matter which concerned the community. This litigation was
> finally resolved on September
> 12, 1996.

> 3. This action involved a community owned company that was established
> during the time of the marriage.

> 4. It was unknown as to what H anything the community would owe in this
> matter, so the community debts were left unadjudicated.

> 5. As a result of this litigation, a judgment was entered in the amount of
> $35,537.34 for which the

> community now owes.

> 6. In defending and prosecuting this matter, I expended $60,90.0.00 in
> attorney's fees and

> expenses.

> 7. There are also other debts which belong to the community that were left
> unadjudicated in the

> previous dissolution action. As of the date of separation these debts
> included the following:

> a. Standard Federal Savings Bank

> Acct.# 881604451

> $89,169.00 orig 6/9 (inception date)

> $81,244.0Q currently due and owing

> b. Ford Motor

> Acct.# NAN350PQ6A11 92

> $21,360.00 orig 11-92

> $12,633.00 currently due and owing

> c. Bank of America

> Acct.# 336117491

> $3,059.00 orig 3 88

> S3.059.00 currently due and owing

> d. American General

> Acct.# 6881164024185748

> S3,312.00 orig 6 88

> S2,719.00 currently due and owing

> e. Duringer

> Acct.# 91033002

> $1,209.00 2-91

> $1,209.Q0 currently due and owing

> F. Bus & Prof Serv

> Acct.# 279460

> $213.00 12-88

> S213.00 currently due and owing

> 9. Cal Business Bureau

> Acct.# 28151801

> $202.00 8-89

> S202.00 currently due and owing

> h. Tal Lewis

> Acct.# 122793

> $1 89.00 1-91

> S189.00 currently due and owing

> I. Tal Lewis

> Acct.# 101154

> $187.00 449

> $187.00 currently due and owing

> j. Tal Lewis

> Acct.# 12040018784

> $176.00 11 -89

> S176.00 currently due and owing

> k. Mervyn's

> Acct.# 35440599418

> $300.00 12-87

> S300.00 currently due and owing

> I.Judgement Las Vegas, NV

> Acct.# A307173

> 57,300.00 5-12-93 and prior

> S7.300.00 currently due and owing

> M. Judgment Pomona, CA

> Acct.# 883438

> $1,200.00 1048

> S1.233.00 currently due and owing

> n. Judgernent Pomona, CA

> Acct.# 8901488

> $800.00

> S844.00 currently due and owing

> o. Judgment Pomona, CA Acct.# 9005737

> $800.00 1-91 $800.00 currently due

> and owing

> p. CA tax lien

> Acct.# 21508991

> $12,000.00 8-92

> S12.000.00 currently due and owing

> q. CA tax lien

> AccL# 91120276

> $700.00 9-89

> S700.00 currently due and owing

> r .CA tax lien

> Acct.# 91873277

> $ 9,300.00 6-91

> S9,300.00 currently due and owing

> s. CA tax lien

> Acct.# 91176496

> $600.00 2-91

> S600.00 currently due and owing

> t.CA tax lien

> Acct.# 91155002152

> $9,316.00 6-91

> S9,316.00 currently due and owing

> u. CA tax lien

> Acct.# 91029001962

> S648.00 2-91

> S648.00 currently due and owing

> v. CA tax lien

> Acct.# 90107007670

> $732.00 490

> S732.00 currently due and owing

> w. CA tax lien

> Acct.# 89178002461

> $727.00 749

> S727.00 currently due and owing

> x. IRS 1989 joint filing

> $86,000.00 S89

> S3.000.00 currently due and owing

>         8.      Over the past five years, l have had to put 100% of my income into
> paying for

> attorney fees and expenses and into paying for taxes-all for the
> community. This has left

> me with literally nothing to live on and thus, l have been forced to rely
> on the generosity

> and help of others just for the necessities of life.

>         I declare under penalties of perjury, under the laws of the state of
> Califonia, that the  foregoing is true and correct.

> Jerry Irvine

> Dated: November 15.1996

             Ms. Mince,

    Please be aware that this type post is not welcome on this group.
RMR is about rocketry,not legals. As you already know the courts are the
place for this, not an internet newsgroup. To say your neutral in the
matter and only doing it to help another party, in order to dodge a
response from the people on rmr is sophmoric at best. I suggest that
next time you get your boss to do his own dirty work.
    I'm sure Jerry is'nt perfect none of us are,and I only know him from
his posts on rmr,but your totally out of line here. I would take this
position no matter who it was. As far as his morals go, who are you or
anyone else to judge? Did you hang on a cross or raise from the dead? I
thought not. Don't you realize your the one who looks bad by posting
this here? If your the responsibile party for the email spam of this
same document a couple of months ago,I did'nt want nor appreciate it. I
suggest you try the courts instead of stooping to such a low level. Even
if everything you posted is true,take your smear job somewhere else.
This is'nt the place for it.

                               Sincerely,

                            Stephen R. DeArman

 
 
 

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by Cathy Minc » Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:00:00


I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.  The message
may be considered controversial by some.  It is matter of public record in
the California courts.  Please do not respond the sender, I am just posting
for Dr. Kosdon, who does not have a computer nor net access.  I personally
am taking no sides in the following information.

It is up to the reader to decide if it is right or wrong.

The executive summary;  

After losing a recent fraud lawsuit to several people in California, Jerry
files a motion to hold his ex-wife responsible for 1/2 of the ~$35,000 in
fines and ~$60,000 in court costs resulting from the fraud lawsuit.

The message below contains a scanned in document from a legal motion from
Jerry Irvine regarding his past marriage dissolution as proof.  Ther has
been very little editing, only to correct OCR errors.  Please pardon the
messy look, I had a copy of copy to scan.  A copy of the original can be
had by calling Dr. Kosdon if further proof is needed.

Enjoy!

**************************************************************
In re Marriage of Irvine

Case No. KDO17493

ATTACHMENT 3d to:

NOTICE OF MOTION FOR ADJUDICATION

OF UNADJUDICATED COMMUNITY DEBTS

BACKGROUND

On or about June 15, 1994, the Court entered judgment of dissolution in
this matter. On or about

August 5, 1994, the Court entered a modification of that judgment. Neither
of these judgments

divided the community debts of the parties. This was due, in large part,
to civil litigation that was in

progress at the time of the dissolution proceedings involving the
community's business. it was

unclear at that time what debts the parties would have, therefore, it was
left for determination at a

later date.

The civil proceedings were finalized on September 12, 1996. As a result,
the community now

owes for a judgment in the amount of $35,537.34. Petitioner was also
forced to pay $60,900.00 in

attorney's fees and expenses in order to defend and prosecute this matter.

In addition to the judgment and attorneys fees and expenses, many other
community debts were

left unadjudicated as well. Petitioner now seeks to have the parties
community debts determined

by this Court one half of these debts to Petitioner and one half to
Respondent.

ARGUMENT

        a.  Property That Is Acquired During the Marriage Is Community Property

Except as otherwise provided by statue, all property, real or

personal, wherever situated, acquired by a married person during

the marriage while domiciled in this state is community property."

Family Code ?760.

        b.  The Court Retains Jurisdiction over Community Debts That Were Left
Unadjudicated

In a proceeding for dissolution of marriage, . . . the court has

continuing Jurisdiction to award . . . community estate liabilities to

tow parties that have not been previously adjudicated by a

judgment in the proceeding Family Code ?2556.

CONCLUSION

Petitioner, JERRY IRVINE, hereby requests that this Court make a
determination of the

community debts of the parties and attribute  one half of such debts to
Petitioner and

one half to Respondent.

Dated: November 15. 1996

Respectfully Submitted,

Jerry Irvine

ln Petitioner In Pro Per

In re Marriage of Irvine

Case No. KDO17493

ATTACHMENT 3e to:

NOTICE OF MOTION FOR ADJUDICATION

OF UNADJUDICATED COMMUNITY DEBTS

, Jerry Irvine, do hereby declare and state as follows:

1. 1 am Petitioner in the above entitled matter and if called to testify,
I would and could competently do so as to the following facts:

2. Before and during the dissolution proceedings, I was involved in a
civil litigation matter which concerned the community. This litigation was
finally resolved on September
12, 1996.

3. This action involved a community owned company that was established
during the time of the marriage.

4. It was unknown as to what H anything the community would owe in this
matter, so the community debts were left unadjudicated.

5. As a result of this litigation, a judgment was entered in the amount of
$35,537.34 for which the

community now owes.

6. In defending and prosecuting this matter, I expended $60,90.0.00 in
attorney's fees and

expenses.

7. There are also other debts which belong to the community that were left
unadjudicated in the

previous dissolution action. As of the date of separation these debts
included the following:

a. Standard Federal Savings Bank

Acct.# 881604451

$89,169.00 orig 6/9 (inception date)

$81,244.0Q currently due and owing

b. Ford Motor

Acct.# NAN350PQ6A11 92

$21,360.00 orig 11-92

$12,633.00 currently due and owing

c. Bank of America

Acct.# 336117491

$3,059.00 orig 3 88

S3.059.00 currently due and owing

d. American General

Acct.# 6881164024185748

S3,312.00 orig 6 88

S2,719.00 currently due and owing

e. Duringer

Acct.# 91033002

$1,209.00 2-91

$1,209.Q0 currently due and owing

F. Bus & Prof Serv

Acct.# 279460

$213.00 12-88

S213.00 currently due and owing

9. Cal Business Bureau

Acct.# 28151801

$202.00 8-89

S202.00 currently due and owing

h. Tal Lewis

Acct.# 122793

$1 89.00 1-91

S189.00 currently due and owing

I. Tal Lewis

Acct.# 101154

$187.00 449

$187.00 currently due and owing

j. Tal Lewis

Acct.# 12040018784

$176.00 11 -89

S176.00 currently due and owing

k. Mervyn's

Acct.# 35440599418

$300.00 12-87

S300.00 currently due and owing

I.Judgement Las Vegas, NV

Acct.# A307173

57,300.00 5-12-93 and prior

S7.300.00 currently due and owing

M. Judgment Pomona, CA

Acct.# 883438

$1,200.00 1048

S1.233.00 currently due and owing

n. Judgernent Pomona, CA

Acct.# 8901488

$800.00

S844.00 currently due and owing

o. Judgment Pomona, CA Acct.# 9005737

$800.00 1-91 $800.00 currently due

and owing

p. CA tax lien

Acct.# 21508991

$12,000.00 8-92

S12.000.00 currently due and owing

q. CA tax lien

AccL# 91120276

$700.00 9-89

S700.00 currently due and owing

r .CA tax lien

Acct.# 91873277

$ 9,300.00 6-91

S9,300.00 currently due and owing

s. CA tax lien

Acct.# 91176496

$600.00 2-91

S600.00 currently due and owing

t.CA tax lien

Acct.# 91155002152

$9,316.00 6-91

S9,316.00 currently due and owing

u. CA tax lien

Acct.# 91029001962

S648.00 2-91

S648.00 currently due and owing

v. CA tax lien

Acct.# 90107007670

$732.00 490

S732.00 currently due and owing

w. CA tax lien

Acct.# 89178002461

$727.00 749

S727.00 currently due and owing

x. IRS 1989 joint filing

$86,000.00 S89

S3.000.00 currently due and owing

        8.      Over the past five years, l have had to put 100% of my income into
paying for

attorney fees and expenses and into paying for taxes-all for the
community. This has left

me with literally nothing to live on and thus, l have been forced to rely
on the generosity

and help of others just for the necessities of life.

        I declare under penalties of perjury, under the laws of the state of
Califonia, that the  foregoing is true and correct.

Jerry Irvine

Dated: November 15.1996

 
 
 

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by Steven Piett » Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.  The message
> may be considered controversial by some.  It is matter of public record in
> the California courts.  Please do not respond the sender, I am just posting
> for Dr. Kosdon, who does not have a computer nor net access.  I personally
> am taking no sides in the following information.

IMHO, you have taken a side by posting this. If you really wished to be
neutral
you would have politly declined to get involved.

Quote:

> It is up to the reader to decide if it is right or wrong.

> The executive summary;

> After losing a recent fraud lawsuit to several people in California, Jerry
> files a motion to hold his ex-wife responsible for 1/2 of the ~$35,000 in
> fines and ~$60,000 in court costs resulting from the fraud lawsuit.

> The message below contains a scanned in document from a legal motion from
> Jerry Irvine regarding his past marriage dissolution as proof.  Ther has
> been very little editing, only to correct OCR errors.  Please pardon the
> messy look, I had a copy of copy to scan.  A copy of the original can be
> had by calling Dr. Kosdon if further proof is needed.

> Enjoy!

And why do we need to know this? If Dr. Kosdon wants to start a
discussion in R.M.R
I suggest he buy a computer and get online.

Personally, I think what you've done here stinks.

--
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Technology

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Post by Mark Simpso » Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.  The message
> may be considered controversial by some.  It is matter of public record in
> the California courts.  Please do not respond the sender, I am just posting
> for Dr. Kosdon, who does not have a computer nor net access.  I personally
> am taking no sides in the following information.

> It is up to the reader to decide if it is right or wrong.

> The executive summary;

> After losing a recent fraud lawsuit to several people in California, Jerry
> files a motion to hold his ex-wife responsible for 1/2 of the ~$35,000 in
> fines and ~$60,000 in court costs resulting from the fraud lawsuit.

> The message below contains a scanned in document from a legal motion from
> Jerry Irvine regarding his past marriage dissolution as proof.  Ther has
> been very little editing, only to correct OCR errors.  Please pardon the
> messy look, I had a copy of copy to scan.  A copy of the original can be
> had by calling Dr. Kosdon if further proof is needed.

> Enjoy!

Jonathan,
Is that you??????? ;-)
I get a kick out of the unmitigated gall displayed here.  I've been
aware that Jerry Irvine isn't a choirboy since I started reading RMR.  I
find all that irrelevent in this newsgroup.  I do take exception to the
plethora of personal attacks made on Mr Irvine by spineless posters that
either post anoymously,ficticiously or now, second party.  They
demonstrate the true character of the postees.  If your purpose in
posting this trite in this newsgroup is to elicit responses from the
readers, you have succeeded.  The only problem is that your plan has
backfired.  We are more likely to support Mr Irvine when you attack him
in this manner.  It's the "American Way", we love underdogs.
Mark Simpson
no pseudonym,the real thing!
 
 
 

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by Jerry Irvi » Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:


> > I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.
> > 1. 1 am Petitioner in the above entitled matter and if called to testify,
> > I would and could competently do so as to the following facts:

> > 2. Before and during the dissolution proceedings, I was involved in a
> > civil litigation matter which concerned the community. This litigation was
> > finally resolved on September
> > 12, 1996.

> > 3. This action involved a community owned company that was established
> > during the time of the marriage.

> > 4. It was unknown as to what if anything the community would owe in this
> > matter, so the community debts were left unadjudicated.

> > 5. As a result of this litigation, a judgment was entered in the amount of
> > $35,537.34 for which the

> > community now owes.

> > 6. In defending and prosecuting this matter, I expended $60,900.00 in
> > attorney's fees and

> > expenses.

1. I have not yet seen the original post so do not have a valid emil
address to reply directly to "Cathy Mince".

2. The above is 100% true.

3. I have already PAID/resolved almost 1/2 of the total judgement.

4. I am appealing the judgement on the basis of the anciliary aspects of
the judgement plaintiffs and their agents conveniently omit from their
mailbombing, improper postings, phone trees and rumor mills.  That appeal
is proceeding on schedule and is probably annoying Kosdon no end since he
has agreed to pay all of Plaintiffs legal bills but was stiffed for a
$1400 judgement on a $240,000 request.  BY A JURY.

5. My ex-wife is also a bit upset I have not simply "left her alone", like
I should after her COOPERATING with PLAINTIFFS (including showing up with
them in court despite the fact they are suing her too ((duh)) )

These retards and loosers and alleged thieves, and allegedly stupid
individuals are not even intelligent enough to return my calls to settle
these matters between us once and for all so I am simply exercising my
rights in court (since they sued ME).

I will have the judgements paid in full before the appeal is even heard
and will be seeking restitution for the over $1,000,000 of PROVEN damages
after that.

I suspect the postings, phone trees, underhanded tactics, rumour mills and
posting agents will escalate then.  But then crooks can't handle justice.
That's what jails are for.

Just Jerry

Never trust someone who admits under oath "no I didn't pay a penny for
that mixer"

Wanna guess who said that?

--

Box 1242, Claremont, CA 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing.

 
 
 

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by Jerry Irvi » Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> aware that Jerry Irvine isn't a choirboy since I started reading RMR.  I

Ironically I am as innocent as I profess.  The depth of allegation, legal
attack and ganging up is hard to defend against.  But not impossible,
thank god.

Jerry

--

Box 1242, Claremont, CA 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing.

 
 
 

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by Anonymo » Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:00:00




Quote:
> I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.  The message
> may be considered controversial by some.  It is matter of public record in
> the California courts.  Please do not respond the sender, I am just posting
> for Dr. Kosdon, who does not have a computer nor net access.  I personally
> am taking no sides in the following information.

You took a side when you posted this crap. Where's you sense of common
decency? From now on why not let Kosdon do his own dirty work?

Quote:
> messy look, I had a copy of copy to scan.  A copy of the original can be
> had by calling Dr. Kosdon if further proof is needed.

> Enjoy!

Don't take sides eh? Bullshit! You're as bad if not worse than Kosdon!
How far is your nose up his ass?

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Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by James R. Desjea » Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> And why do we need to know this? If Dr. Kosdon wants to start a
> discussion in R.M.R
> I suggest he buy a computer and get online.

> Personally, I think what you've done here stinks.

> --
> Steve Piette                                            

I agree with you here I hate this ***on RMR I am a
15 year old guy who likes rocketry not this stuff
it wates my time and everyone on this ng.
Please keep it out of rmr. I dont care if jerry has
morals what do morals have to do with rockets ?

Kevin Desjean

 
 
 

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by David Buche » Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.  The message
>may be considered controversial by some.  It is matter of public record in
>the California courts.  Please do not respond the sender, I am just posting
>for Dr. Kosdon, who does not have a computer nor net access.  I personally
>am taking no sides in the following information.

>It is up to the reader to decide if it is right or wrong.

>The executive summary;  

>After losing a recent fraud lawsuit to several people in California, Jerry
>files a motion to hold his ex-wife responsible for 1/2 of the ~$35,000 in
>fines and ~$60,000 in court costs resulting from the fraud lawsuit.

>The message below contains a scanned in document from a legal motion from
>Jerry Irvine regarding his past marriage dissolution as proof.  Ther has
>been very little editing, only to correct OCR errors.  Please pardon the
>messy look, I had a copy of copy to scan.  A copy of the original can be
>had by calling Dr. Kosdon if further proof is needed.

>Enjoy!

>**************************************************************

Ah Frank!  Frank, Frank!  Getting some stoopid and suposedly female
lackey to air Jerry Irvines dirty laundry after the flood has LONG SINCE
drained from under the bridge!  Frank, I was there when you lurked about launches selling NOT VERY COLD beer and soda for a little too high a
price.  I was there when Jerry and you were handing out flyers
announcing the new USRockets reloadables.  I was there when you were
first testing your little G motors which often blew up.  I was there when you bugged and bugged and bugged me to buy your first reloads.  Altough
I think you make ok motors, I KNOW that Jerry was partly responsible
and I'm GLAD I never bought one.  Not because they're no good but
because you lack balls by getting some woman to do your dirty work for
you!  Get a computer, like a REAL scientist or shut up!!!

Dave, in the Eye.

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Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by George » Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>I have been asked by Dr. Franklin Kosdon to post a message.  The message
>may be considered controversial by some.  It is matter of public record in
>the California courts.  Please do not respond the sender, I am just posting
>for Dr. Kosdon, who does not have a computer nor net access.  I personally
>am taking no sides in the following information.

I've been asked by myself to post this message -->  

Who Cares?  

What does this have to do with rockets?  

How would this effect they way Jerry manufactures & sells his products?

If Jerry as a product I want I buy it, if Jerry doesn't have the product I
want I look else where, but I sure don't take the time to question one's
Morals about buying a product, next time you go to Sears, JCPenny's, Kmart,
WalMart, or any store, do you care about the Morals of the person or owner
selling you the product --->  NO --->  You buy it cause you want the item.

I'm starting to get tired of seeing this kinda ***on RMR which has nothing
to do with Model/High power rockets.  Makes me want to run out and buy
something from Jerry......

We need a new news group --->  REC.MODELS.ROCKETS.BACKSTABING

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Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by Jerry Irvi » Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:00:00



with INFINITE wisdom!:

Quote:
> 15 year old guy who likes rocketry not this stuff
> morals what do morals have to do with rockets ?

Nuff said!

Jerry

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Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by Mark Contoi » Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:00:00


(indented text is local; flush-left is remote server)

  $ telnet gatem02.netusa1.net 25
  Trying 205.139.170.9...
  Connected to gatem02.netusa1.net.
220 gatem02.netusa1.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.5/8.7.3; Thu, 26 Jun 1997
13:31:15 -0400 (EDT)
  VRFY ajb5star

  EXPN ajb5star

  RSET
250 Reset state
  QUIT
221 gatem02.netusa1.net closing connection
  $

So much for "Cathy Mince."

I'm not taking any sides here, and of course an SMTP session *is* a
matter of public record.

:)

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Strategic Interactive Group  |       "No keyboard found.
Boston, MA                   |        Press F1 to continue."

 
 
 

Jerry Irvine public record (AKA Does Jerry have any Morals?)

Post by BandSta » Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Dear Cathy Mince:

You need to refer to the web page:   www.libel.others

Thank you.

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