THOY Mighty Falcon vs. LOC Magnum

THOY Mighty Falcon vs. LOC Magnum

Post by Craig Utle » Mon, 30 Dec 1996 04:00:00



I am looking for my Level II Certification rocket, and have narrowed it
down to a THOY Mighty Falcon or a LOC Magnum.  I know many people have
Magnum's, but does anyone out there have experience with a Mighty Falcon?
I am interested in the quality of the kit vs. the Magnum, etc.

--Craig

 
 
 

THOY Mighty Falcon vs. LOC Magnum

Post by DG » Mon, 30 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> I am looking for my Level II Certification rocket, and have narrowed it
> down to a THOY Mighty Falcon or a LOC Magnum.  I know many people have
> Magnum's, but does anyone out there have experience with a Mighty Falcon?
> I am interested in the quality of the kit vs. the Magnum, etc.

> --Craig

I have not had any personal experience with THOY/R&D/Cluster R kits other
than the little Wren and a 2.6" Cluster R Standard ARM (with NO
complaints), but I have overheard MANY complaints *lately* about some
serious tubing quality problems in large THOY/Cluster R/Rocket R&D kits.

I do have a LOC Magnum with which I am very happy. Am I biased?  Maybe.  
Will you have good results with a Magnum?  I'm sure of it.

BTW, the Magnum and a J460-M is a very nice level 2 flight.  One word of
advice: for your cert flight, make it simple.  I watched yesterday as a
level 2 attempt failed because the flier used an altimeter with 2-stage
deployment, and the main chute never fully opened.  Although there was
little apparent damage to the rocket, he failed his cert attempt.  If he
had just made a single deployment at apogee, he would have passed with
flying colors.  Avoiding clusters is also a good idea, for obvious
reasons.  Triploi rules state that if you fly a cluster for a cert, at
least one of the motors has to be in the range being certified for (so
why bother with any more than one) and they all have to light.

--
DG
TRA #4666

 
 
 

THOY Mighty Falcon vs. LOC Magnum

Post by Eric32 » Tue, 31 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Craig Utley wrote,

Quote:
>I am looking for my Level II Certification rocket, and have narrowed it
>down to a THOY Mighty Falcon or a LOC Magnum.  I know many people have
>Magnum's, but does anyone out there have experience with a Mighty Falcon?
>I am interested in the quality of the kit vs. the Magnum, etc.

   I have a Mighty Falcon, though I purchased it by default when LOC was
in transition and temporairily closed. It is considerably heavier and
stronger than a Magnum. It weighs 9.5 lbs. compared to a Magnum's catalog
weight of 6.75, note that mine has some fibergalssing that added .5 - 1
lb. to the rocket. The fiberglass nosecone (gelcoated already so no
painting necessary) is much better than the polyethylene LOC cone that is
nearly impossible to paint and keep from chipping or peeling. The MF is
8ft. long, about 1.5ft. longer than a Magnum. The fins appear to bit a bit
oversized and may take up quite a bit of room in the car or van. The fins
are thicker than a Magnum's and are not swept back so they should be much
less likely to break off on landing. The tubing quality isn't that great,
if it is uncoated is sensitive to humidity and will wrinkle the outer
cosmetic layer of the body tube when damp. The fiberglass nosecone I
recieved had a slightly out of round base and some blemishes in the gel
coating, there were no problems with the fit however. Rocket R&D is
willing to customize a rocket you order from them and I asked for 6 rather
than the usual 3 29mm outboard motor mounts. When this kit was ordered a
year ago Rocket R&D was having problems with their nosecone manufacturer
(an outside company) and shipment was delayed more than a month.
  Minimum power it will fly on is a full I motor, I have used a Kosdon
I500. I certified Level 2 with a K550-L cut down to 12 seconds. Seriously
scorched the rear end of it though. I had motor plugs I was going to put
in the outboards but I forgot them and they got a bit barbequed. The
scorching is not a problem with the kit but the K550 WL's blast reflected
off the blast deflector.
 
 
 

THOY Mighty Falcon vs. LOC Magnum

Post by Richard Brando » Tue, 31 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> I am looking for my Level II Certification rocket, and have narrowed it
> down to a THOY Mighty Falcon or a LOC Magnum.  I know many people have
> Magnum's, but does anyone out there have experience with a Mighty Falcon?
> I am interested in the quality of the kit vs. the Magnum, etc.

> --Craig

Craig--

I'm Rich Brandon from the Mid-South Rocket Society in Memphis. The
falcon was my***high powered rocket.  Straight away, I'd recommend
it.  I have launched it prox 8 times. Comes with 24mm adapter which I
use alot. I like to use G64s & G80s.(4,5,6 sec delay and I have even
flow the rocket without the payload section on a F50 with 4 second
delay.

Very stable because of three medium size fins.  Looks good painted black
and red.  

It going up on an H in several weeks.

Good luck.