ESTES- MARS SNOOPER II NEEDED

ESTES- MARS SNOOPER II NEEDED

Post by Mr. Matthew H. Gr » Sun, 05 Jan 1997 04:00:00



I'm a collector who needs these Estes kits built or unbuilt, partial,
or decals, instruction sheets or anything else:
Mars Snooper II
Mars Lander ( I'm dreaming, i know)
Interceptor
Andromeda
Aero Fin
Old Skill Level 5 kits or instructions.
Please email if you can help, this is a serious offer.

 
 
 

ESTES- MARS SNOOPER II NEEDED

Post by JohnJ » Thu, 09 Jan 1997 04:00:00


I believe my son has one of the kits you are looking for.  He has the Mars
Snooper from the collectors series.  The box has been opened for
inspection, but the model is unbuilt and all parts are present.

 
 
 

ESTES- MARS SNOOPER II NEEDED

Post by Roy Gre » Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>I believe my son has one of the kits you are looking for.  He has the Mars
>Snooper from the collectors series.  The box has been opened for
>inspection, but the model is unbuilt and all parts are present.

The collectors series model was the original Mars Snooper.  The Mars
Snooper II was a little different... a little simpler rear end shroud,
and the pods on the fins had special balsa or vac formed plastic
ramjet-style noses, and dowels as probes on the rear instead of the
long nose cones.

I'm not sure, but I believe the upper body fins were different.
possibly just simple clipped deltas rather than the straked clipped
delta of the original.

 
 
 

ESTES- MARS SNOOPER II NEEDED

Post by J. Steven Yo » Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


>>I believe my son has one of the kits you are looking for.  He has the Mars
>>Snooper from the collectors series.  The box has been opened for
>>inspection, but the model is unbuilt and all parts are present.
>The collectors series model was the original Mars Snooper.  The Mars
>Snooper II was a little different... a little simpler rear end shroud,
>and the pods on the fins had special balsa or vac formed plastic
>ramjet-style noses, and dowels as probes on the rear instead of the
>long nose cones.
>I'm not sure, but I believe the upper body fins were different.
>possibly just simple clipped deltas rather than the straked clipped
>delta of the original.

A little bit of Mars Snooper trivia I stumbled on in the library
recently while looking through some vintage space books:

I had known (though perhaps some of you didn't) that the Snooper was
based on one of those futuristic concept paintings that aerospace
companies were always turning out in the 60s.  But though I had seen
the painting of it in its familiar flight configuration several times,
this book had both the familiar painting, and a second one of the
Snooper flying backwards!  Apparently the idea was that it would
launch conventionally using a nuclear engine in what we thing of as
the rear, but on arrival at Mars, it would flip over and enter the
atmosphere.  A cone would close over the nuclear engine nozzle, and
ramjets in the wing pods would be used for atmospheric flight.  The
larger "rear" fins would have acted as wings, and apparently the
smaller "front" fins would act as tail surfaces.  Strange!

All of which suggests a strange kind of boost glider that I've never
heard of anyone trying, putting the engine in the nose of the glider!
It is a novel solution to having too much forward fin area and needing
a ton of nose weight...

J. Steven York: Science fiction writer, dapper man-about-town
"I'm not a rocket scientist, but I play one on TV..."

"He who spams me is cursed, and shall suffer the 'death of a
thousand leeches-in-their-shorts.'"

 
 
 

ESTES- MARS SNOOPER II NEEDED

Post by Richard Pitzerus » Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> >I believe my son has one of the kits you are looking for.  He has the Mars
> >Snooper from the collectors series.  The box has been opened for
> >inspection, but the model is unbuilt and all parts are present.

> The collectors series model was the original Mars Snooper.  The Mars
> Snooper II was a little different... a little simpler rear end shroud,
> and the pods on the fins had special balsa or vac formed plastic
> ramjet-style noses, and dowels as probes on the rear instead of the
> long nose cones.

> I'm not sure, but I believe the upper body fins were different.
> possibly just simple clipped deltas rather than the straked clipped
> delta of the original.

I still have my Mars Snooper II that I built about 20 years ago.  I
don't have the fin patterns anymore (although I could trace them as best
I can from teh model) but at a glance they look similar to the original
Mars Snooper fins.  The nosecones on the fin pods were balsa ramjet
style, which would be very hard to find.  Also, the small fins on the
top of the rocket were below the transition (on the BT-50) instead of
above it (on the BT-20) .

-Rich
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