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Loc Lil' Nuke Motors

Post by J Stuckma » Fri, 17 Oct 1997 04:00:00



I've just picked up a Lil' Nuke. The package says it will fly on a D12.
That sounded great - a rocket that I could fly at the high school and
get back but load it up for some altitude at club launches. Wrasp looks
pretty marginal on a D12. Realistically, what's the lightest motors
suitable?

Thanks,
Jim Stuckman
--
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Post by D.L. Brow » Fri, 17 Oct 1997 04:00:00


In article , J says...

Quote:

>I've just picked up a Lil' Nuke. The package says it will fly on a D12.
>That sounded great - a rocket that I could fly at the high school and
>get back but load it up for some altitude at club launches. Wrasp looks
>pretty marginal on a D12. Realistically, what's the lightest motors
>suitable?

>Thanks,
>Jim Stuckman
>--
>See our model rocketry site at:
>http://w3.nai.net/~stuckman/html/rocketry.html

Mine flew OK on a  D12-3   pretty low though.  It does very well on an E30-7
and even better on an F50-9.  The  'Nuke is one of my favorite rockets.  I made
mine with 6 min. Epoxy before I knew about better stuff.  Despite predictions
to the contrary it has held up very well.

                                                Enjoy!
                                     D.L. Brown   NAR 69453  HPR Level 1

 
 
 

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Post by The Silent Observe » Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> I've just picked up a Lil' Nuke. The package says it will fly on a D12.
> That sounded great - a rocket that I could fly at the high school and
> get back but load it up for some altitude at club launches. Wrasp looks
> pretty marginal on a D12. Realistically, what's the lightest motors
> suitable?

A D12-3 will loft a 12 ounce liftoff weight high enough to recover
safely.  I plan to fly my Binder Spike on a D12 at some point -- though
it'll be a while before I get the weather for it, I suspect, with winter
coming on fast.  It's my understanding that the Lil' Nuke is a bit
lighter than the Spike -- so you should be able to get away with the
D12-3, also, and as a bonus you'll be able to clearly see the whole
flight...  B)

--
Take no thought for the morrow; that's your privilege.  But don't
complain if when it gets here you're off guard.  -- John Brunner

Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer           NAR # 70141-SR Insured
Rocket Pages             http://members.aol.com/silntobsvr/launches.htm

Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
and don't expect them to be perfect.

 
 
 

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Post by fox.. » Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Yes, it will *fly*  on the D motor, but it is too close for any degree of
comfort.  Unless it is built extremely light, I would not do it. Better choice
of motors would be an E composite, but the altitude would be perhaps too high
for a small area.  I have not tried any D composite motors in mine yet, but
possibly this weekend will try it. It really hauls ***on the F and G motors
and as some have posted, large G and above is awesome.
foxeye


Quote:

>I've just picked up a Lil' Nuke. The package says it will fly on a D12.
>That sounded great - a rocket that I could fly at the high school and
>get back but load it up for some altitude at club launches. Wrasp looks
>pretty marginal on a D12. Realistically, what's the lightest motors
>suitable?

>Thanks,
>Jim Stuckman
>--
>See our model rocketry site at:
>http://www.FoundCollection.com/~stuckman/html/rocketry.html

 
 
 

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Post by Jerome Crai » Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:



> >I've just picked up a Lil' Nuke. The package says it will fly on a D12.
> >That sounded great - a rocket that I could fly at the high school and
> >get back but load it up for some altitude at club launches. Wrasp looks
> >pretty marginal on a D12. Realistically, what's the lightest motors
> >suitable?

> A friend of mine flew a Lil' Nuke on a D12 but it exhibited lots of
> weather***ing and I suspect it's speed off the rod is very short
> of 30 fps.  I think you might want to look into those Aerotech
> composite D motors that are full 20 N/s instead, you'll probably
> get better flights out of them.  The 18mm RMS D13 and 24mm D15
> will definitely do a better job.

> I flew mine on E's all the time and the Nuke would get 700-800 feet
> flights which is just fine for a relatively small field.  Full 20 N/s
> D's will give you marginal flights of around 250-300 feet.

HHHhhhhhhmmmmm .... "lightest motor" what a novel concept. I generally
fly my stretched Lil' Nuke on G35. G55, G80 and G125s. If it doesn't
rain all weekend, I was planning on flying it on an H124 with lots of
tracking powder.
 
 
 

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Post by Tom All » Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Howdy
   From my experience use the AT clip on copperheads. Use the 'gator
clips on two wire ignitors.
Tom Allen

 
 
 

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Post by John Rit » Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> > I've just picked up a Lil' Nuke. The package says it will fly on a D12.
> > That sounded great - a rocket that I could fly at the high school and
> > get back but load it up for some altitude at club launches. Wrasp looks
> > pretty marginal on a D12. Realistically, what's the lightest motors
> > suitable?

> A D12-3 will loft a 12 ounce liftoff weight high enough to recover
> safely.  I plan to fly my Binder Spike on a D12 at some point -- though
> it'll be a while before I get the weather for it, I suspect, with winter
> coming on fast.  It's my understanding that the Lil' Nuke is a bit
> lighter than the Spike -- so you should be able to get away with the
> D12-3, also, and as a bonus you'll be able to clearly see the whole
> flight...  B)

> --
> Take no thought for the morrow; that's your privilege.  But don't
> complain if when it gets here you're off guard.  -- John Brunner

> Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer           NAR # 70141-SR Insured
> Rocket Pages             http://members.aol.com/silntobsvr/launches.htm

> Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
> and don't expect them to be perfect.

I have flown mine on E18W, F22J and the G104T, It flew really nice.
It's one of my favorite minnies.

THX, John

 
 
 

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Post by Jim Clear » Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:



> >I've just picked up a Lil' Nuke. The package says it will fly on a D12.
> >That sounded great - a rocket that I could fly at the high school and
> >get back but load it up for some altitude at club launches. Wrasp looks
> >pretty marginal on a D12. Realistically, what's the lightest motors
> >suitable?

> A friend of mine flew a Lil' Nuke on a D12 but it exhibited lots of
> weather***ing and I suspect it's speed off the rod is very short
> of 30 fps.  I think you might want to look into those Aerotech
> composite D motors that are full 20 N/s instead, you'll probably
> get better flights out of them.  The 18mm RMS D13 and 24mm D15
> will definitely do a better job.

> I flew mine on E's all the time and the Nuke would get 700-800 feet
> flights which is just fine for a relatively small field.  Full 20 N/s
> D's will give you marginal flights of around 250-300 feet.

I have semi-retired my Lil Nuke and only fly it on small fields with
D-12's now. It does fly nice, not too high (about 2-300 ft.)and it is
still heavy enough not to weathercock excessivly. But a big must is you
have to make sure that it slides easily on the launch rod or it WILL
hang up on the rod, because the estes D motors are kind of wimpy, no
trouble with the AT D-18 though.
--
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"Any idiot can face a crisis, it's this day to day living that wears you
out." Anton Chekhov
 
 
 

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Post by Yves Lacom » Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:00:00


On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:18:24 -0400, Jerome Craig

Quote:
>HHHhhhhhhmmmmm .... "lightest motor" what a novel concept. I generally
>fly my stretched Lil' Nuke on G35. G55, G80 and G125s. If it doesn't
>rain all weekend, I was planning on flying it on an H124 with lots of
>tracking powder.

I'd love to fly my nuke (stretched lil' nuke) on a "G" motor,
unfortunately our monthly-launch field just doesn't have the kind of
recovery area to allow for 2000+ feet flights.  Heck, I launch my
stock LOC/Vulcanite on an F25 and it's pretty marginal for our field.

I did fly the latter on a G40 at a HPR launch in Ontario in august
and was impressed though ;-)

Not everyone has the luxury of living in areas where you have
a desert or willing sod farm owner to give you kilometer-scale
open fields to play with.

--
Yves

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Davi » Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:18:24 -0400, Jerome Craig
> >HHHhhhhhhmmmmm .... "lightest motor" what a novel concept. I generally
> >fly my stretched Lil' Nuke on G35. G55, G80 and G125s. If it doesn't
> >rain all weekend, I was planning on flying it on an H124 with lots of
> >tracking powder.

> I'd love to fly my nuke (stretched lil' nuke) on a "G" motor,
> unfortunately our monthly-launch field just doesn't have the kind of
> recovery area to allow for 2000+ feet flights.  Heck, I launch my
> stock LOC/Vulcanite on an F25 and it's pretty marginal for our field.

> I did fly the latter on a G40 at a HPR launch in Ontario in august
> and was impressed though ;-)

> Not everyone has the luxury of living in areas where you have
> a desert or willing sod farm owner to give you kilometer-scale
> open fields to play with.

> --
> Yves

For a very satisfying flight try one of the new Dark Star F62-6 motors.
Good acceleration and lots of smoke.
 
 
 

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Post by George Katseli » Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> I've just picked up a Lil' Nuke. The package says it will fly on a D12.
> That sounded great - a rocket that I could fly at the high school and
> get back but load it up for some altitude at club launches. Wrasp looks
> pretty marginal on a D12. Realistically, what's the lightest motors
> suitable?

> Thanks,
> Jim Stuckman
> --
> See our model rocketry site at:
> http://w3.nai.net/~stuckman/html/rocketry.html

Tried mine on an AT D15 (24mm RMS) twice and it was fairly marginal. At
a guess I thought that both flights around 100m. I would expect that
the Estes D12 to be about the same and I think that if there is any wind
it would be risky. The E18 provide a very nice flight for the Lil' Nuke.
I got three good performances out of mine before I lost it.

As an aside, what are peoples opinions on the LOC Graduator and E18's,
because I destroyed mine on the weekend and I dont know if it was due to
insufficient thrust and therefore not enough altitude, excessive delay
time or just insufficient ejection force. The rocket lawn darted, but
the ejection charge had gone off.

 
 
 

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Post by March A. Brin » Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>> I did fly the latter on a G40 at a HPR launch in Ontario in august
>> and was impressed though ;-)

>> Not everyone has the luxury of living in areas where you have
>> a desert or willing sod farm owner to give you kilometer-scale
>> open fields to play with.

Ontario, huh?  Have you seen some of the open fields in Quebec south of
Montreal? I drove by some of them as one thought passed through my head:
This would be a _great_ place to fly rockets!!!

                                                        Marc

 
 
 

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Post by Jerome Crai » Wed, 22 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> I'd love to fly my nuke (stretched lil' nuke) on a "G" motor,
> unfortunately our monthly-launch field just doesn't have the kind of
> recovery area to allow for 2000+ feet flights.  Heck, I launch my
> stock LOC/Vulcanite on an F25 and it's pretty marginal for our field.

> I did fly the latter on a G40 at a HPR launch in Ontario in august
> and was impressed though ;-)

> Not everyone has the luxury of living in areas where you have
> a desert or willing sod farm owner to give you kilometer-scale
> open fields to play with.

> --
> Yves

This weekend wasn't as good as it could have been ...  a lot of
overcast/low cloud cover. I put the LN up on a G40 and a G80, but
wouldn't put it up any higher for fear of losing sight of it. Flew
at Higgs Dairy Farm in Maryland .... 5 miles-by-5 miles!!

Sounds great, but you really don't want your rocket to get too far
away because you'd lose your frame of reference trying to find it.

Anyway, in a couple of weeks I'll get another chance. I may use a
U.S. Rockets H160 in it if it comes back from the G125 flight. By the
way, have you tried a "big" streamer instead of a chute?

Jerome

 
 
 

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Post by Jim Clear » Sun, 26 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> > > I plan to fly my Binder Spike on a D12 at some point -- though
> > >it'll be a while before I get the weather for it, I suspect, with winter
> > >coming on fast....

> Parachutes are easy to see against snow, unlike when a rocket sinks
> into 3' of prairie grass. Just carry a thermos of liquid "rocket
> fuel" along with the AP :-) And use nylon 'chutes, not plastic. (Plastic
> won't open when it is cold.)

> Dean
> --

> NOTE: Modify the return address to reply.

Dean,
Do you take milk and sugar with your "liquid rocket fuel" or just take
it black?
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Fly Contented if not Happy.
                        Jim C.
                        TRA #3996 Level 2
                        METRA
"Any idiot can face a crisis, it's this day to day living that wears you
out." Anton Chekhov