Bored with D-12's

Bored with D-12's

Post by Tristan Ericso » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00



        I really think that some of my lower powered rockets are pretty cool,
like the Broadsword, Phenox, Maen Machine, and Shadow.  But, I'm getting
real board with flying them on D-12's.  I would think it would be pretty
cool to fly them on the ever heard of, never seen, Estes E.  Does anyone
know how I could get some of these.  Alos, are there any other engines
that I could put in these rockets.  Another thing, I got two cluster
Pro-Series rockets (the Impulse and Maxi Force) any cool suggestions on
how to send these up?
--
Tristan Ericson, a disciple of Jesus Christ
Mechanical Engineering


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Bored with D-12's

Post by Larry Schwart » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Tristan

Quote:
> Alos, are there any other engines
> that I could put in these rockets.

Surf on over to  http://www.aerotech-rocketry.com/
they offer a line of 24mm composite motors that are
compatible with the Estes black powder D's.

Larry Schwatrz
NAR #72611 SR/I

 
 
 

Bored with D-12's

Post by Vinc » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00


The Phoenix kicks !ss on an Aerotech E15-4 (same size as the
Estes 'D' motors).   Make sure your recovery system is in robust
shape first; the first time I flew mine on one, the ejection charge
snapped the shock cord clean off at the BT end.  You'll need 12 volts
to fire their ignitors too (if you can't figure out how to hook up
copperhead
ignitors, ask here, it's a common question).  BTW, they're not cheap
(about $8 each) but they're worth it.


Quote:
> I really think that some of my lower powered rockets are pretty cool,
> like the Broadsword, Phenox, Maen Machine, and Shadow.  But, I'm getting
> real board with flying them on D-12's.  I would think it would be pretty
> cool to fly them on the ever heard of, never seen, Estes E.  Does anyone
> know how I could get some of these.  Alos, are there any other engines
> that I could put in these rockets.  Another thing, I got two cluster
> Pro-Series rockets (the Impulse and Maxi Force) any cool suggestions on
> how to send these up?
> --
> Tristan Ericson, a disciple of Jesus Christ
> Mechanical Engineering


> Visit my Web Site!
> http://coyote.ycp.edu/~tericson/index.html
> York College of PA
> Manor South, Box 39
> York PA, 17404

 
 
 

Bored with D-12's

Post by James L. Marin » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00


He he he he.... Composite motors. The only way to fly!  BTW, bring your wallet.
8^)
Quote:

>         I really think that some of my lower powered rockets are pretty cool,
> like the Broadsword, Phenox, Maen Machine, and Shadow.  But, I'm getting
> real board with flying them on D-12's.  I would think it would be pretty
> cool to fly them on the ever heard of, never seen, Estes E.  Does anyone
> know how I could get some of these.  Alos, are there any other engines
> that I could put in these rockets.  Another thing, I got two cluster
> Pro-Series rockets (the Impulse and Maxi Force) any cool suggestions on
> how to send these up?
> --
> Tristan Ericson, a disciple of Jesus Christ
> Mechanical Engineering


>                         Visit my Web Site!
>                         http://coyote.ycp.edu/~tericson/index.html
> York College of PA
> Manor South, Box 39
> York PA, 17404

 
 
 

Bored with D-12's

Post by Tai F » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00


I got some E18 RMS and they are way cheaper than the single use ones.
The problem is that I dont have big fields and I am not too consident in
getting the phoenix (and the RMS casing) back on a E18....
--
Tai Fu
NAR# 76089 (National Assioation of Rocketry)
Website: http://web.wt.net/~taifu
Company: http://www.youngsfashion.com

 
 
 

Bored with D-12's

Post by Tom Alle » Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Howdy,

  I have some of the Estes E15 motors.  I am waiting for their "collectors
value" to go up before I sell any of them.  Try an Aerotech F101 or G55 if
your rockets can stand them (:-)).

--
Tom Allen
AB Skunkworks
Extreme Rockets

Quote:
> I really think that some of my lower powered rockets are pretty cool,
> like the Broadsword, Phenox, Maen Machine, and Shadow.  But, I'm getting
> real board with flying them on D-12's.  I would think it would be pretty
> cool to fly them on the ever heard of, never seen, Estes E.  Does anyone
> know how I could get some of these.  Alos, are there any other engines
> that I could put in these rockets.  Another thing, I got two cluster
> Pro-Series rockets (the Impulse and Maxi Force) any cool suggestions on
> how to send these up?
> --
> Tristan Ericson, a disciple of Jesus Christ
> Mechanical Engineering


> Visit my Web Site!
> http://coyote.ycp.edu/~tericson/index.html
> York College of PA
> Manor South, Box 39
> York PA, 17404

 
 
 

Bored with D-12's

Post by Kevin Re » Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Tristan,

24mm composite motors are available up to G size. Your rockets aren't
built to take the stress of the F and G sizes, but E motors should
work OK as long as your birds are well-built. Composite motors need a
12-volt ignition system and they're spendier than Estes motors, but
there is a whole world of performance and design there.

To add a commercial announcement, come over to the Rocketvision web
site at www.rocketvision.com and check out our 24mm motors and kits
designed to fly on them.

Kevin Reed
Rocketvision.com



Quote:
>    I really think that some of my lower powered rockets are pretty cool,
>like the Broadsword, Phenox, Maen Machine, and Shadow.  But, I'm getting
>real board with flying them on D-12's.  I would think it would be pretty
>cool to fly them on the ever heard of, never seen, Estes E.  Does anyone
>know how I could get some of these.  Alos, are there any other engines
>that I could put in these rockets.  Another thing, I got two cluster
>Pro-Series rockets (the Impulse and Maxi Force) any cool suggestions on
>how to send these up?
>--
>Tristan Ericson, a disciple of Jesus Christ
>Mechanical Engineering


>                    Visit my Web Site!
>                    http://coyote.ycp.edu/~tericson/index.html  
>York College of PA
>Manor South, Box 39
>York PA, 17404

 
 
 

Bored with D-12's

Post by Tai F » Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Beware about firing them! Those motors are decertified because they are
prone to CATO, its good for collectors, but not for firing....

--
Tai Fu
NAR# 76089 (National Assioation of Rocketry)
Website: http://web.wt.net/~taifu
Company: http://www.youngsfashion.com

 
 
 

Bored with D-12's

Post by Tai F » Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:00


I think for prices, Aerotech's RMS should be used for savings, even
though a 24/40 costs like 30 dollars, the reload kit is like 8-9 dollars
(for 3 of them!!!) so that should bring the costs of composites to that
of a D12, even on E's. By the way I have heard great things about your
mach buster, about how it could be left outside for 3 months, and still
flyable. I kinda like the low and slow kind of rocket, because theres a
better chance of recovery, so do you carry rockets that weights like 5
oz. so I would dare risk my RMS case on it. But if not, I guess I would
go with the machbuster. Also how much does your igniter cost?
--
Tai Fu
NAR# 76089 (National Assioation of Rocketry)
Website: http://web.wt.net/~taifu
Company: http://www.youngsfashion.com
 
 
 

Bored with D-12's

Post by MAURI RAIN » Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:00


    Ever try areotech 24mm reloadables? The E-18 in a Broadsword or a Phenox
is a scream!
 Mauri Rains Tripoli#3023

Quote:
> I really think that some of my lower powered rockets are pretty cool,
> like the Broadsword, Phenox, Maen Machine, and Shadow.  But, I'm getting
> real board with flying them on D-12's.  I would think it would be pretty
> cool to fly them on the ever heard of, never seen, Estes E.  Does anyone
> know how I could get some of these.  Alos, are there any other engines
> that I could put in these rockets.  Another thing, I got two cluster
> Pro-Series rockets (the Impulse and Maxi Force) any cool suggestions on
> how to send these up?
> --
> Tristan Ericson, a disciple of Jesus Christ
> Mechanical Engineering


> Visit my Web Site!
> http://coyote.ycp.edu/~tericson/index.html
> York College of PA
> Manor South, Box 39
> York PA, 17404