Estes Website Has Changed

Estes Website Has Changed

Post by DougMa » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Anybody notice Estes' website has changed? It's no longer
responding with the "Coming March 15" message. Now, it's not
responding at all. (I assume this is because they're loading the
new stuff, so they're off-line while doing so.)

Anybody want to start a pool as to the exact time they get it
going? Will it be mid-nite (MST) or sometime later?

In terms of *anticipated* big events in model rocketry, how do
you think this ranks?

Will it meet our expectations? Or, will it be a rehash of the
educator site?

Do you think the new site will offer direct-to-consumer sales?

Will we see any new models?

New engines?

We *should* know tomorrow.

Doug

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Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Bob Kapl » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
> Anybody notice Estes' website has changed? It's no longer
> responding with the "Coming March 15" message. Now, it's not
> responding at all. (I assume this is because they're loading the
> new stuff, so they're off-line while doing so.)

I just tried and it's still there. One day and holding...

        Bob Kaplow      NAR # 18L       TRA # "Ctrl-Alt-Del"

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Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Stefan Jone » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> Anybody notice Estes' website has changed? It's no longer
> responding with the "Coming March 15" message. Now, it's not
> responding at all. (I assume this is because they're loading the
> new stuff, so they're off-line while doing so.)

> Anybody want to start a pool as to the exact time they get it
> going? Will it be mid-nite (MST) or sometime later?

> In terms of *anticipated* big events in model rocketry, how do
> you think this ranks?

Big as in big letdown, I fear. We'll see how far the company has fallen.

Quote:
> Will it meet our expectations? Or, will it be a rehash of the
> educator site?

The educator site was pretty good. Lots of technical reports and such.

Quote:
> Do you think the new site will offer direct-to-consumer sales?

I doubt it. Estes business model = selling mass quantities through big
retailers. They don't care much about us hobbyists.

Quote:
> Will we see any new models?

No. If we're lucky, they'll go through with the announced re-release of
the Maxi Honest John, Maxi Alpha 3, and etc. That's something, I guess.

Quote:
> New engines?

HAH! If current trends continue, the next few years will probably see
the disappearance of booster motors and D motors. We'll have maybe
twelve motor types to choose from.

--
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650-506-1032
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 necessarily represent those of  Oracle Corporation."

 
 
 

Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Fred Shecte » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
> Anybody notice Estes' website has changed? It's no longer
> responding with the "Coming March 15" message. Now, it's not
> responding at all. (I assume this is because they're loading the
> new stuff, so they're off-line while doing so.)

> Anybody want to start a pool as to the exact time they get it
> going? Will it be mid-nite (MST) or sometime later?

> In terms of *anticipated* big events in model rocketry, how do
> you think this ranks?

> Will it meet our expectations? Or, will it be a rehash of the
> educator site?

It depends on "our expectations".  If our expectations are sane, then "yes".
If they are the usual r.m.r. psychotic expectations then "no way".
They are a business.  I beleive that they could be a better and more
successful business if they followed some of the ideas put forth on r.m.r.,
but filtering them out from the ravings is not easy.  Especially for people
who get paid for their time (hopefully).  I just hope that market forces can
drive them back to the path to what many of us see as "good for the hobby"
while they continue to make a boatload of money.
Quote:

> Do you think the new site will offer direct-to-consumer sales?

No way!  You will probably see links to retailers near you or at least a
placeholder for that function.

Quote:

> Will we see any new models?

Good question!  Perhaps something will be unvieled with the website, but I'm
sure that anything that was new was already presented to their distributors
and retailers through the normal channels (big industry shows, salesmen,
etc.)

Quote:

> New engines?

That would be nice, but it would be nice to have a couple of the recently
departed engines return.  Like the 1/2A6-2.  We could really use that for
models like the Wizard or Viking on small flying fields like school yards or
small parks!  Otherwise they might as well include an engine mount in all of
the 18mm kits.
Quote:
> We *should* know tomorrow.

Yes we should.

Good luck to them, and remember that websites can and do change over time,
so they can improve anything that needs to be improved.

Quote:

> Doug

Wow, tomorrow will be good.  Also tomorrow a brand new Wal-Mart opens up at
the edge of my parking lot at work (OK , it's a half a block away).  I
wonder if they have Micro-Maxx and how big their Estes section will be?  All
the other Wal-Marts have restocked pretty good and they all have kits in
boxes alongside the RTF models (so there!).

This Wal-Mart is rumored to have a bank inside.  I'll know for sure
tomorrow.  No Golden Dollars tomorrow.  They tried to get 'em, but they
won't be in until next week.  The rest of the LA area banking system is
swallowing them as fast as the Fed can get 'em here.

-Fred Shecter NAR 20117

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Estes Website Has Changed

Post by wscar.. » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Quote:


> > Anybody notice Estes' website has changed?

Hi all,

  I'm new to this newsgroup and a BAR (I've only been back in this hobby
long enough to have figured out what that acronym means, in fact).

  Would someone please post the URL to the Estes website?

Quote:
> > In terms of *anticipated* big events in model rocketry, how do
> > you think this ranks?

> Big as in big letdown, I fear. We'll see how far the company has
>fallen.

  This has almost certainly been talked about ad nauseum on this
newsgroup but, as I said, I'm new.  Would someone kindly <b>email</b> me
a quick note about what's going on with Estes?

Quote:
> The educator site was pretty good. Lots of technical reports and such.

  Does the educator site still exist?  URL?

  It sounds like Estes is on the decline.  So what are the alternatives
these days?  When I was flying rockets (1970's), Estes and Centauri were
the only games in town, and Centauri was VERY hard to come by locally.

  Thanks very much,

Will
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San Diego, California

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Estes Website Has Changed

Post by David Walli » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> Hi all,

>   I'm new to this newsgroup and a BAR (I've only been back in this hobby
> long enough to have figured out what that acronym means, in fact).

>   Would someone please post the URL to the Estes website?

>   Does the educator site still exist?  URL?

>   It sounds like Estes is on the decline.  So what are the alternatives
> these days?  When I was flying rockets (1970's), Estes and Centauri were
> the only games in town, and Centauri was VERY hard to come by locally.

http://www.estesrockets.com

http://www.esteseducator.com

--
David Wallis

 
 
 

Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Bob Kapl » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
> Anybody notice Estes' website has changed? It's no longer
> responding with the "Coming March 15" message. Now, it's not
> responding at all. (I assume this is because they're loading the
> new stuff, so they're off-line while doing so.)

> Anybody want to start a pool as to the exact time they get it
> going? Will it be mid-nite (MST) or sometime later?

Well, it's the 15th, and the message is unchanged. Perhaps they are in a
different timezone: MST: is that Mountain Standard Time or Micro Soft Time
:-)

        Bob Kaplow      NAR # 18L       TRA # "Ctrl-Alt-Del"

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Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Paul Smit » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:



>> Anybody notice Estes' website has changed? It's no longer
>> responding with the "Coming March 15" message. Now, it's not
>> responding at all. (I assume this is because they're loading the
>> new stuff, so they're off-line while doing so.)

>> Anybody want to start a pool as to the exact time they get it
>> going? Will it be mid-nite (MST) or sometime later?

>Well, it's the 15th, and the message is unchanged. Perhaps they are in a
>different timezone: MST: is that Mountain Standard Time or Micro Soft Time

    I assumed it was "Micronesian Slavelabor Time".

Paul Smith

 
 
 

Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Neil Tarasof » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00


In addition to all the K kits, Barry has also made the decision to
reintroduce the top 40 Centuri kits.
It will take just a little longer to get this loaded. Be patient group.

Neil Tarasoff

Quote:




> >> Anybody notice Estes' website has changed? It's no longer
> >> responding with the "Coming March 15" message. Now, it's not
> >> responding at all. (I assume this is because they're loading the
> >> new stuff, so they're off-line while doing so.)

> >> Anybody want to start a pool as to the exact time they get it
> >> going? Will it be mid-nite (MST) or sometime later?

> >Well, it's the 15th, and the message is unchanged. Perhaps they are in a
> >different timezone: MST: is that Mountain Standard Time or Micro Soft Time

>     I assumed it was "Micronesian Slavelabor Time".

> Paul Smith

 
 
 

Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Chad Ri » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Actually, what really happened with the Estes site is probably this:

Estes was told by the web site designer that the site would have to be
"constructed".  Upon hearing that, Estes just discontinued the site until
technology advances to the point of a "ready to fly, er, exist" website.

Ya never know...................

<G>

Chad Ring

 
 
 

Estes Website Has Changed

Post by AFL-CIO of Champaign Count » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


> > Hi all,

> >   I'm new to this newsgroup and a BAR (I've only been back in this hobby
> > long enough to have figured out what that acronym means, in fact).

> >   Would someone please post the URL to the Estes website?

> >   Does the educator site still exist?  URL?

> >   It sounds like Estes is on the decline.  So what are the alternatives
> > these days?  When I was flying rockets (1970's), Estes and Centauri were
> > the only games in town, and Centauri was VERY hard to come by locally.

> http://www.estesrockets.com

> http://www.esteseducator.com

> --
> David Wallis

I just checked thier site, it is up and running, but loads really slow,
so be patient. Under new products they now have air powered stomp
rockets!!! No BATF hassles!!! And of course, more RTF cheap plastic
crap.                                                                            
Christopher Brian Deem  NAR 12308 TRA 2256 level 2
 
 
 

Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Dan Schneide » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00


I'm just curious how many newton-seconds can a 220lb man with a size 9 1/2
shoe can make? If I gained more weight or wore a bigger show, would I have
to go for my air-rocket level 1 certification???

MY GOD! That's means I can't buy any shoes over a 10 unless I get my NAR or
Tripoli level 1!!!

:-)

Dan Schneider

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Estes Website Has Changed

Post by bobsanfo.. » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Quote:

> I just checked thier site, it is up and running, but loads really
slow,
> so be patient. Under new products they now have air powered stomp
> rockets!!! No BATF hassles!!! And of course, more RTF cheap plastic
> crap.

Yeah, the air rockets DO exist! I been hearing rumors about them for so
long that I wasn't sure if they were real or not. Of course, I have yet
to see them in stores.

Hmmm, maybe those of us attending NARAM 42 should bring Estes air
rockets to the meet to compete against the Micro-Maxx fliers ;)

Bob

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Estes Website Has Changed

Post by Mario Perdu » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00


On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:52:30 -0600, "Dan Schneider"

Quote:

>I'm just curious how many newton-seconds can a 220lb man with a size 9 1/2
>shoe can make?

I'd guess that it would depend more on the size of his ***than his
shoe. :^)

Mario Perdue
NAR #22012 Sr. L1

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