world record attempt

world record attempt

Post by all » Mon, 26 May 1997 04:00:00



To all modellers

We are after sponsors for the King Kluster rocket
this rocket is a attempt at the biggest clustered rocket record
it will be launched under the power of 206 C engines
the rocket is 8 foot tall and 13 inches in diameter

but we need 300 pounds to build it for the planned July 13th
launch at a big model show in England

So we are after any donations and if you give 5 you will have
your name put on the rocket in small letters and 10 or more in
big letters and for any large donation you can have your logo or
name placed on the rocket.

if you are interested please e-mail me at

Yours Sincerely

Peter Barrett - H.A.R.T.

 
 
 

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Post by Stephen DeArma » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> To all modellers

> We are after sponsors for the King Kluster rocket
> this rocket is a attempt at the biggest clustered rocket record
> it will be launched under the power of 206 C engines
> the rocket is 8 foot tall and 13 inches in diameter

> but we need 300 pounds to build it for the planned July 13th
> launch at a big model show in England

> So we are after any donations and if you give 5 you will have
> your name put on the rocket in small letters and 10 or more in
> big letters and for any large donation you can have your logo or
> name placed on the rocket.

> if you are interested please e-mail me at

> Yours Sincerely

> Peter Barrett - H.A.R.T.

                Peter,

   Good thing your launching it in England. The red tape here would be
outrageous. Probably would need a leup from N.A.S.A. Be sure to video
tape the launch. When you do, get wwaaaaayyyyyy, back. It ought to make
one heck of a cato.

   Hey!! Are you trying to cause a shortage of C engines in England,and
there by driving up the price on the black market? Confess!!! Do you
secretly work with Estes to drive up engine prices? Or even worse,are
you trying to resurrect OPEC? What is your payload? Who's your
commanding officer? Do you work for Cancer man?I bet your going to
launch the ashes of Benny Hill,so he can join Roddenberry in orbit.
There are people on rmr who have ways of making you talk. We will find
out. Enquiring minds want to know. Your lucky that Scully and Mulder are
on vaction.

                          Trust No One,
                              Randy

   P.S. Anyone know what the letter designation would be for a single
engine the size of 206 Cs? Must be way down the Greek alphabet. Probably
omega,since it would be the end of the rocket. As Richard Bey would say,
"Where do they get these people"?

 
 
 

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Post by Jerry Irvi » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> To all modellers

> We are after sponsors for the King Kluster rocket
> this rocket is a attempt at the biggest clustered rocket record
> it will be launched under the power of 206 C engines
> the rocket is 8 foot tall and 13 inches in diameter

> but we need 300 pounds to build it for the planned July 13th
> launch at a big model show in England

> So we are after any donations and if you give 5 you will have
> your name put on the rocket in small letters and 10 or more in
> big letters and for any large donation you can have your logo or
> name placed on the rocket.

> if you are interested please e-mail me at

> Yours Sincerely

> Peter Barrett - H.A.R.T.

I have news for you.  Scott Pearce already beat that record at a LDRS
launch.  469 mini-A motors.  I think it had 3 catos.

Talk about a statistical sample!

Jerry

--

Box 1242, Claremont, CA 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing.

 
 
 

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Post by Alan W. Holm » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00


On Thu, 29 May 1997 16:43:55 -0500, Stephen DeArman

Quote:

>   P.S. Anyone know what the letter designation would be for a single
>engine the size of 206 Cs?

J

(aren't powers of two wonderful)

Alan Holmes

 
 
 

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Post by Steven Piett » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> On Thu, 29 May 1997 16:43:55 -0500, Stephen DeArman

> <snip>
> >   P.S. Anyone know what the letter designation would be for a single
> >engine the size of 206 Cs? Must be way down the Greek alphabet. Probably
> >omega,since it would be the end of the rocket. As Richard Bey would say,
> >"Where do they get these people"?

> 206 C's would be between a J and a K.

> (128 is a J, 256 is a K)

> Yitah Wu

But it would be a J1236! (Assuming 206 C6's)

Steve

 
 
 

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Post by David Theden » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> To all modellers

> We are after sponsors for the King Kluster rocket
> this rocket is a attempt at the biggest clustered rocket record
> it will be launched under the power of 206 C engines
> the rocket is 8 foot tall and 13 inches in diameter

> but we need 300 pounds to build it for the planned July 13th
> launch at a big model show in England

> So we are after any donations and if you give 5 you will have
> your name put on the rocket in small letters and 10 or more in
> big letters and for any large donation you can have your logo or
> name placed on the rocket.

> if you are interested please e-mail me at

> Yours Sincerely

> Peter Barrett - H.A.R.T.

It'll CATO  for sure!

dave

 
 
 

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Post by Walter J. Wilki » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00


On Thu, 29 May 1997 16:43:55 -0500, Stephen DeArman

major snip

Quote:
>   P.S. Anyone know what the letter designation would be for a single
>engine the size of 206 Cs? Must be way down the Greek alphabet. Probably
>omega,since it would be the end of the rocket. As Richard Bey would say,
>"Where do they get these people"?

Actually:
2C=1D
4C=1E
8C=1F
16C=1G
32C=1H
64C=1I
128C=1J
256C=1K

(The above are all for nominally full impulse motors.)

So, since the Estes C6 is nominally 8.9Ns (call it 9).  206 = 1854Ns,
so you would essentially have a K1236 assuming all of the motors
ignite.  Better make sure that puppy is capable of handling the
equivalent of a medium K butt-kicker motor.

NAR 64578SR
TRA 4428
Mick's Brother

 
 
 

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Post by Alan W. Holm » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00


On Thu, 29 May 1997 16:43:55 -0500, Stephen DeArman

Quote:

>   P.S. Anyone know what the letter designation would be for a single
>engine the size of 206 Cs?

OOOPS

I said J in my last msg.

Correct answer is K  (assuming the Cs are all 10Ns Cs).

I miscounted my power of twos by one.

(a C is 5-10 Ns,  206x10=2,060 Ns.  A K is 1,281-2,560 Ns)

Sorry

Alan Holmes

 
 
 

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Post by bste.. » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00



Quote:



>> To all modellers

>> We are after sponsors for the King Kluster rocket
>> this rocket is a attempt at the biggest clustered rocket record
>> it will be launched under the power of 206 C engines
>> the rocket is 8 foot tall and 13 inches in diameter

>> but we need 300 pounds to build it for the planned July 13th
>> launch at a big model show in England

>> So we are after any donations and if you give 5 you will have
>> your name put on the rocket in small letters and 10 or more in
>> big letters and for any large donation you can have your logo or
>> name placed on the rocket.

>> if you are interested please e-mail me at

>> Yours Sincerely

>> Peter Barrett - H.A.R.T.

>I have news for you.  Scott Pearce already beat that record at a LDRS
>launch.  469 mini-A motors.  I think it had 3 catos.

>Talk about a statistical sample!

>Jerry

>--

>Box 1242, Claremont, CA 91711 USA
>Opinion, the whole thing.

Whats a CATO?

Enquiring minds want to know.

BS.

 
 
 

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Post by Wolfram v.Kipars » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>    P.S. Anyone know what the letter designation would be for a single
> engine the size of 206 Cs? Must be way down the Greek alphabet.

(9 N-s) x 206 = 1854 N-s

that's about a mid-J motor...

--
Wolf

Get the r.m.r. FAQ at: http://dtm-corp.com/~sven/rockets/rmrfaq.toc.html

 
 
 

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Post by Hans Nygaar » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> To all modellers

> We are after sponsors for the King Kluster rocket
> this rocket is a attempt at the biggest clustered rocket record
> it will be launched under the power of 206 C engines
> the rocket is 8 foot tall and 13 inches in diameter

> but we need 300 pounds to build it for the planned July 13th
> launch at a big model show in England

> So we are after any donations and if you give 5 you will have
> your name put on the rocket in small letters and 10 or more in
> big letters and for any large donation you can have your logo or
> name placed on the rocket.

> if you are interested please e-mail me at

> Yours Sincerely

> Peter Barrett - H.A.R.T.

Errh... I don't know s*** about rockets but I would have thought that
heat that dissipates sideways instead of in the exhaust direction, would
make the whole cluster overheat & blow up? At least thats what happened
to a New Years Eve backyard rocket we tied together once. Whooeee! What
an explosion! Made it 3 feet up and then...
Mayby those C-thingys are more prof. made. Just a thought.

Hans


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Post by The Silent Observe » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>    P.S. Anyone know what the letter designation would be for a single
> engine the size of 206 Cs? Must be way down the Greek alphabet. Probably
> omega,since it would be the end of the rocket. As Richard Bey would say,
> "Where do they get these people"?

A cluster of 206 C6 motors, all fired at once, would be equivalent to a
K1236, but only about 1850 Ns total impulse (not a full 2560 Ns K).

This isn't far different from the standard Aerotech K1100 motor, though
it's probably a little trickier to ignite...

--
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no older than the pyramids.  But the brain has been interpreting
_pictures_ from _in_front_.  Much older circuitry, much faster traffic
flow, much more information density.  -- The Nazz

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Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
and don't expect them to be perfect.

 
 
 

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Post by Chris Holfor » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00


snip

Quote:
> King Kluster rocket
>this rocket is a attempt at the biggest clustered rocket record
>it will be launched under the power of 206 C engines
>the rocket is 8 foot tall and 13 inches in diameter

>but we need 300 pounds to build it for the planned July 13th
>launch at a big model show in England

snip

Why are rocket motors so expensive?   -they are comparable to shotgun
cartridges which cost one tenth as much.
--
Chris Holford

 
 
 

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Post by TMiller1 » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>Why are rocket motors so expensive?   -they are comparable to shotgun
>cartridges which cost one tenth as much.

I suspect that a rocket motor that performed like a shotgun shell would be
one tenth the cost too.  The flight on such a motor would be as good as
the price you paid for the motor.

TMiller135 - "PULL!!"

 
 
 

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Post by Stephen DeArma » Sat, 31 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> >Why are rocket motors so expensive?   -they are comparable to shotgun
> >cartridges which cost one tenth as much.

> I suspect that a rocket motor that performed like a shotgun shell would be
> one tenth the cost too.  The flight on such a motor would be as good as
> the price you paid for the motor.

> TMiller135 - "PULL!!"

                  Hey!

         Are we really just building high performance skeet?!?!?

                               Trust No One,
                                  Randy