MARS SNOOPER ???

MARS SNOOPER ???

Post by Mark J. Antho » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00



How sought after is a Mars Snooper these days. Can anyone tell me if
these are still available any more. Was also wondering what a Snooper
would be expected to go for if one could find one today. Any help would be
appreciated. Thanx!

Mark

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MARS SNOOPER ???

Post by Richard Pitzerus » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> How sought after is a Mars Snooper these days. Can anyone tell me if
> these are still available any more. Was also wondering what a Snooper
> would be expected to go for if one could find one today. Any help would be
> appreciated. Thanx!

> Mark

Estes re-issued the Mars Snooper a few years ago.   I have heard of them
being spotted in shops from time to time.

Apparently there were 2 different Mars Snoopers made.  As a kid I had
the newer version, made in the mid 70's.  It was red with white decals
and the fin pods had nose cones on the top and 1/8" dowels on the
bottom.

The original Mars Snooper (which is what the re-issue is) was white and
blue and used nose cones on the top and bottom of the fin pods.  Also,
the older version had the top finlets above the transition, where the
newer version had it below.

I would LOVE to find a copy of the decals for the newer Mars Snooper
(with the white decals).  If anyone has them, PLEASE e-mail me.

Rich

 
 
 

MARS SNOOPER ???

Post by Paul R. Wolave » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> How sought after is a Mars Snooper these days. Can anyone tell me if
> these are still available any more. Was also wondering what a Snooper
> would be expected to go for if one could find one today.

mark - I got one (actually one of the "Collectors Classics" reissues,
thru Kevin Nolan at Countdown Hobbies.  Kevin is a very pleasant guy to
deal with, and has a nice rocket site, with all kinds of gizmos, rocket
paraphernalia,  and old (and new) Estes stuff.   I really enjoy
'shopping' at his mail order business. End of testimonial.

As as matter of fact, I just started building my MS this weekend after
it being on the shelf for a year or so.   I built one of these when I
was a kid in 1965, but man, I remember this thing being a lot bigger!!!
I'm not saying that I am disappointed, cause I'm using this, primarily,
to blueprint the original so I can scale it up into something that will
be fun to watch fly.   This was always one of my all time fav's, and in
Jr. High I can remember basing several 'art' projects on this design,
much to the chagrin of my 'creative' art teacher.  What a dope.  I
secretly suspect that this was really Wernher von Brauns original design
for the V2, but he had to s***it cause it wouldn't fit thru the
tunnels (one of the design constraints on the V2 fins). :-)

The original one that I built was RED, but I'll do this one like it
shows on the box.

Don't get me goin on the Mars Snooper, now, don't get me goin.

 
 
 

MARS SNOOPER ???

Post by Dave Coo » Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


> > How sought after is a Mars Snooper these days. Can anyone tell me if
> > these are still available any more. Was also wondering what a Snooper
> > would be expected to go for if one could find one today.

> [snip]

> Don't get me goin on the Mars Snooper, now, don't get me goin.

Awright - more Snooper fans!  I agree, they sure don't look as big as
they once did, but the *original* MS and its recent reissue (the Snooper
II was lame.lame.lame) have to rank as some of the all-time coolest
Estes designs.  Makes a challenging upscale project too - seven nose
cones and all those shrouds.  Not to malign the Trident and Mars Lander,
of course.

p.s. Glad to see some other swdev consultant/hacker types out there.  I
wonder how many of us old rocket guys are now doin' that gig...  8:)

-dbc

 
 
 

MARS SNOOPER ???

Post by J. Steven Yo » Sat, 24 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:



>> > How sought after is a Mars Snooper these days. Can anyone tell me if
>> > these are still available any more. Was also wondering what a Snooper
>> > would be expected to go for if one could find one today.

>> [snip]

>> Don't get me goin on the Mars Snooper, now, don't get me goin.
>Awright - more Snooper fans!  I agree, they sure don't look as big as
>they once did, but the *original* MS and its recent reissue (the Snooper
>II was lame.lame.lame) have to rank as some of the all-time coolest
>Estes designs.  Makes a challenging upscale project too - seven nose
>cones and all those shrouds.  Not to malign the Trident and Mars Lander,
>of course.
>p.s. Glad to see some other swdev consultant/hacker types out there.  I
>wonder how many of us old rocket guys are now doin' that gig...  8:)
>-dbc


Here's a little Snooper trivia for you.  The design is rather
accurately based on a concept developed by one of the major aerospace
companies (forget which one).  Those pods on the fins are supposed to
be ramjets, but here's the strange part, they faced backwards!  The
snooper was to enter the atmosphere and fly "backwards" from what we
think of as its normal direction of flight.  (In space, a nuclear
rocket would have been mounted in the conventional position.  As I
recall, it would have been covered by a clamshell nose-cone of some
sort while in the atmosphere.  Strange but true.  (I ran across this
information in an old space book in my local library just a couple
weeks back.  I'd seen the concept paintings before, but this "flying
backwards" business was new to me.