Real Train Designations

Real Train Designations

Post by John A. Zelins » Tue, 18 May 1999 04:00:00



I may be wrong but I believe a train designated "Q-____" means a mixed
manifest, "K-____" means a train of one commodity (the Juice Train),
"N-____" I have no idea, and so on.  Can anyone give me a list?  Email

 
 
 

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Post by Charles F Seyferlic » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> I may be wrong but I believe a train designated "Q-____" means a mixed
> manifest, "K-____" means a train of one commodity (the Juice Train),
> "N-____" I have no idea, and so on.  Can anyone give me a list?  Email


Most railroads had/have their own system for train designations.

The C&NW system was usually 5 letters - first two where train started,
second two where train ended and last indicated type of train.

PRCBA = Proviso to Council Bluffs manifest
CBPRA = Council Bluffs to Proviso manifest
(crews called them both the train from hell)

BTPPC = Black Thunder (mine) to Pleasant Prairie (power plant) coal
train
PPBTX = return of empty hoppers

I do not remember all the train type ID's, but P=potash, U=unit,
Z=piggyback.

Way freights had a different system, usually three letters and two
numbers. First letter was a W (for way freight) and next two were
terminal ID. The numbers were id at the terminal (in case there were
more than one wat frt at terminal - numbers did not begin at on).

Example: WEG54 was at Eagle Grove, WVP26, WVP32 and WVP42 would all be
at Valley Park.

Yard jobs had a simular system, except the begin with Y. Example -
YIT02, YIT04 and YIT06 all would be at Itasca.

Business trains had a system where with 5 letters - ZZ and initials of
"VIP" on train. ZZJAZ = James A Zito's business cars.

 
 
 

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Post by The BN Gu » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00


According to UP:

"The primary difference is the 'descriptive designation' or 'train type'
will now be the first letter of the five characters, not the last letter.
Characters two and three will be the origin code and characters four and
five will be the destination code.  Some trains will carry a sixth
character, telling of special conditions or the date it originated."

DESCRIPTIVE DESIGNATIONS:
A - AUTOMOTIVE
C - COAL
F - FOREIGN LINE TRAINS
G - GRAIN
I - INTERMODAL
L - LOCAL
M - MANIFEST
O - OTHER BULK - UNIT TRAINS
P - PASSENGER
S - SPECIALS
W - MoW, WORK, RAIL, LIGHT ENGINES
Y - YARD
Z - UPS, EXPEDITED INTERMODAL (UPS/3rd AM SERVICE)

SPECIAL CONDITION CODES:
L/E - LOAD/EMPTY
Z/K/N/Q - INTERMODAL CODES
I - INTERLINE (RUN-THROUGH)
B/C/D/E - MULTIPLE SYMBOL SECTIONS
P - PERISHABLES
X - EXTRA UNSCHEDULED

I have a file of UP codes which includes type, origination, destination, and
special info.  If you'd like a copy, let me know.  It's a 24k file.

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Patrick A. Ward
"The BN Guy"
San Antonio, TX

 
 
 

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Post by John A. Zelins » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00


Well, thanks to all for the input cause I sure was surprised.  Had
assumed that all was standardized thru out the railroad industry and
instead have learned that each railroad has its own unique system.  I
really feel dumb on this one.  Didn't do enough reading.  Thanks again
for your help.
 
 
 

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Post by Bellin » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00


John,
I don't know about other railroads, but on the BNSF a train # beginning with
"Q" is the highest priorty fastest freight.  For instance, the "QLANY" is the
UPS fast freight from Los Angeles to New York.
Russ
 
 
 

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Post by chty97 » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00


I don't know if this will help ... but if you goto www.bullsheet.com they
have a whole listings of CSX and pre Conrail merger info and time table.

pat


Quote:
> John,
> I don't know about other railroads, but on the BNSF a train # beginning
with
> "Q" is the highest priorty fastest freight.  For instance, the "QLANY" is
the
> UPS fast freight from Los Angeles to New York.
> Russ

 
 
 

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Post by nos.. » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> I may be wrong but I believe a train designated "Q-____" means a mixed
> manifest, "K-____" means a train of one commodity (the Juice Train),
> "N-____" I have no idea, and so on.  Can anyone give me a list?  Email


Go to "www.bullsheet.com", I think you will be pleasently surprised. BTW:
N trains are coal trains. (these are for CSX trains by the way, not on all
railroads). Q trains aren't necessarily mixed manifest. They also include
Intermodals (Q100's), and automotive trains (Q200's). K is for bulk commidities
(other than coal or grain, which have their own designators)
 
 
 

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Post by Thomas M. Johnso » Thu, 20 May 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
>Well, thanks to all for the input cause I sure was surprised.  Had
>assumed that all was standardized thru out the railroad industry and
>instead have learned that each railroad has its own unique system.  I
>really feel dumb on this one.  Didn't do enough reading.  Thanks again
>for your help.

And boy, does it make it tough when you live in a place were you have
several railroads to watch/listen to in one spot. In the Twin Cities here, I
have BNSF, CP, UP, TC&W, WC and Minnesota Commercial. That's 4+ differant
systems.

On that note, I would love to get my hands on a listing for each......... If
anybody has them, I would appreciate a copy.

Tom