Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Post by Paul R. Tupaczews » Tue, 11 Jan 1994 23:05:58



My friend just picked up a pair of PRR E8's from Life-Like's new
Proto 2000 series. Since I have them now to put some decal details
on it, some observations are in order.

First off, the paint jobs are beautiful. The PRR job is very clear and
fairly accurate. The lettering is sharp. Gripe: The "WATER" lettering
is white (should be dulux gold), and is the wrong font; the "F" on front
is BLACK (also should be dulux gold). Minor problems - I carefully erased
the letters with a pencil eraser and replaced 'em with the correct decals.
At least it wasn't as inaccurate as the FA2 Pennsy scheme! They're getting
better, I will say.

The underframe - one word: HEAVY. It strongly resembles a Stewart F-unit
underframe, where the motor is encased in a big metal casting. The "sprung
trucks" are... uh, interesting. The journals are separate and float up
and down, though not nearly as much as I'd like. Running quality?
The ones I have are about on a par with Kato (!), perhaps just a hair
noisier. But the sheer power is amazing.

Ah, now the carbody. GREAT! All the doors open (though the nose door is awful
hard to pull out once it's pushed in!). The fans are all see-through, as are
the winterization hatches. Cab detail is good (two figures). As in the FA2's,
see-through ladder steps. And those see-through etched grilles are superb.
The PRR version even comes with add-on nose lift rings! Quite impressive.

I saw the EMD demo, which is a dual headlight version. The "Mars light" is
also sort of cheesy. It's a dual filament bulb, and a circuit toggles between
the left and right filament twice a second. Hey, it works, I guess.

I can't wait for the undec units so I can paint up a pair of Erie-Lackawanna
units (salivate... salivate...)! The undecs come with EVERY detail variation
(different grills, different headlights (one or two), different pilots),
so "one size fits all."

They will be releasing the units in no less than >> 25 << roadnames. This run
is: AMTK, Santa Fe, Union Pacific, Pennsylvania, EMD Demo, Chicago & North
Western, Louisville & Nashville, and Baltimore & Ohio. Also coming are:

Atlantic Coast Line, Burlington, Erie, Lackawanna, Southern Pacific,
Illinois Central, New York Central, Chesapeake & Ohio, Milwaukee, and
eight others I can't remember.

Sorely missing from this list are: PRR dark green scheme, Erie Lackawanna,
Maine Central, BN "commuter" scheme, NJ Transit/NJDOT... but there's always
a chance!

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Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Post by n.. » Wed, 12 Jan 1994 03:22:42


Regards,
Norm Howe

 
 
 

Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Post by Paul R. Tupaczews » Wed, 12 Jan 1994 21:32:36


Quote:
>Is Life-Like making E8/9 "B units" in powered or unpowered to go along with the road names they are producing the A units in? Does anyone know?

Unfortunately, no B-units, and no unpowered A's. Supposedly, there were very
few prototype B-units built (B-units were going out of vogue at the time).

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Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Post by Randy Lambert » Thu, 13 Jan 1994 13:49:07



Quote:

>My friend just picked up a pair of PRR E8's from Life-Like's new
>Proto 2000 series. Since I have them now to put some decal details
>on it, some observations are in order.

> Text deleted to save space...

Paul, May I ask the going price for the new 'E' units?

Thanks.


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Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Post by n.. » Fri, 14 Jan 1994 00:55:24


Regards,
Norm Howe
 
 
 

Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Post by Paul R. Tupaczews » Fri, 14 Jan 1994 21:36:28


Quote:


>>My friend just picked up a pair of PRR E8's from Life-Like's new
>>Proto 2000 series. Since I have them now to put some decal details
>>on it, some observations are in order.

>> Text deleted to save space...

>Paul, May I ask the going price for the new 'E' units?

Well, on the average, they're about $60. However, two places right
around here sell 'em for $45 (!) - America's Hobby Center and
Trainworld/Trainland (both advertise in MR, check out their ads).
I got mine at AHC.

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Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Post by dale.g.leasu » Sun, 16 Jan 1994 00:54:24


Quote:

> >>My friend just picked up a pair of PRR E8's from Life-Like's new
> >>Proto 2000 series. Since I have them now to put some decal details
> >>on it, some observations are in order.

> >> Text deleted to save space...

> >Paul, May I ask the going price for the new 'E' units?

> Well, on the average, they're about $60. However, two places right
> around here sell 'em for $45 (!) - America's Hobby Center and
> Trainworld/Trainland (both advertise in MR, check out their ads).
> I got mine at AHC.

>    - Paul Tupaczewski         ----:     SD80MAC...       :----

I think the list price is $85, I paid $54 incl. tax from MRSD (guess I
should have shopped around a little more :-( ).

Has anyone else had trouble installing the pilot doors? The "instructions"
say to "pop" them into the pilot but neither set of mine would stay put.

Would anyone care to offer a recommendation for KD couplers for these
beasts? I installed #5s in draft gear boxes in the rears of both (I tapped
the hole in the mounting pad 256 and screwed them in place) which worked
out fine, but I find that they couple too far apart (there is a 1/4 in. gap
between the diaphragm striker plates).

Also, I replaced the pilot coupler on one with a long shank KD with the
"glad hand" snipped off to clear the bottom of the pilot. This works OK,
but I'd welcome suggestions that look and/or work better.

Dale Leasure.

 
 
 

Life-Like's new E8/9 units

Post by Kenneth J. Bu » Sun, 16 Jan 1994 02:25:22


re:

Quote:
>> >Paul, May I ask the going price for the new 'E' units?
>> Well, on the average, they're about $60. However, two places right
>> around here sell 'em for $45 (!) - America's Hobby Center and
>> Trainworld/Trainland (both advertise in MR, check out their ads).
>> I got mine at AHC.
>I think the list price is $85, I paid $54 incl. tax from MRSD (guess I
>should have shopped around a little more :-( ).

just a comment: if the suggested list is $85, that makes dealer
cost approx. $51, using the standard markup rate (haven't had a chance
to verify the actual cost).
so, shop around for bargains, but expect to leave _a little_ room
for dealer profit...