Paint mix to simulate steel

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Mark Math » Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:39:16



I'm looking for ideas of paint mixes to simulate new steel, both plain and
galvanized.  They would be used for a flatcar load and boxcar roofs, viewed
from normal distance.  I typically use Modelflex paint, but am open to all
suggestions.

(I'm thinking about 2 parts Santa Fe silver to 1 part reefer gray for new
galvanized metal.)

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Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by larry lawren » Sat, 04 Oct 2003 22:52:59


HOw about mixing on a 'pallete'?  
Just put a big blob of the color closest (the one youthink you  will
use most of). Then a small blob ot the other or others, and mix small
amounts into the big blob until you get the color you want.

I use a small piece of glass, that way I can scrape the paint off
after it dries.

Quote:

> I'm looking for ideas of paint mixes to simulate new steel, both plain and
> galvanized.  They would be used for a flatcar load and boxcar roofs, viewed
> from normal distance.  I typically use Modelflex paint, but am open to all
> suggestions.

> (I'm thinking about 2 parts Santa Fe silver to 1 part reefer gray for new
> galvanized metal.)


 
 
 

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Jon Mille » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 01:03:53


    One of the model paint companies (Testors??) make two paints (two part
application) used to simulate SS and other types of metal.  The SS has a
black coat over sprayed with metallic.  It is reported to be the best
available to simulate SS passenger cars.
    This was reported by Andy S. in a MR article and has been talked about
on various groups.
    As you didn't ask about SS I think the process is used for other types
of metal simulation!
 
 
 

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Edward A. Oate » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 02:03:20


There are some metal foils which can be applied to models: see
MicroMark.com. I've not used them, but they may work. I suspect that they
are difficult to apply without wrinkles. I suspect that when correctly
applied, they are better than anything except for vacuum plating for
simulating metal car sidings like stainless steel.

Ed.


wrote on 10/3/03 9:03 AM:

Quote:
>   One of the model paint companies (Testors??) make two paints (two part
> application) used to simulate SS and other types of metal.  The SS has a
> black coat over sprayed with metallic.  It is reported to be the best
> available to simulate SS passenger cars.
>   This was reported by Andy S. in a MR article and has been talked about
> on various groups.
>   As you didn't ask about SS I think the process is used for other types
> of metal simulation!

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Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Mark Math » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:33:44




Quote:
> There are some metal foils which can be applied to models: see
> MicroMark.com. I've not used them, but they may work. I suspect that they
> are difficult to apply without wrinkles. I suspect that when correctly
> applied, they are better than anything except for vacuum plating for
> simulating metal car sidings like stainless steel.

I am looking to simulate basic unpainted steel (such as structural shapes)
and new galvanized steel, not stainless steel.  Thank you.
 
 
 

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Mark Math » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:34:31



Quote:
> Have you checked the Testor's enamels "Steel", etc.?  They do make
> varius shades of metal colors.....

I am trying to avoid solvent-based paints...

But which of those Testors colors have you used to simulate new steel, both
plain and galvanized?

 
 
 

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Mark Math » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:36:43



Quote:
> HOw about mixing on a 'pallete'?
> Just put a big blob of the color closest (the one youthink you  will
> use most of). Then a small blob ot the other or others, and mix small
> amounts into the big blob until you get the color you want.

That is still a "wet" color, and the results can vary after airbrushing and
drying.  So I'm looking for a starting pont for my test.  What paint mixes do
you use to simulate new steel, both plain and galvanized?
 
 
 

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Mark Math » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:39:58



Quote:
> The steel I have used (Testor's enamel) produces a dark steel color --
> I was using it to simulate the darker section of wings on airliners
> when I used to do a lot of them.  Nowadays most of the airlines have
> resorted to painting the entire wing very light grey.

Thanks, I didn't realize there was a Testors Model Master Enamel simply
called "steel!"  D'oh!
 
 
 

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Jon Mille » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:54:10


    You might look at this site, just for your own information.
http://www.alclad2.com/index2.html
    They do make a nice steel!
 
 
 

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Mark Math » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 01:27:12



Quote:
>> Thanks, I didn't realize there was a Testors Model Master Enamel simply
>> called "steel!"  D'oh!

> Mark...it is'nt in the "Model Master" line -- it's in their regular
> ol' little square bottles!

Thanks again.  I haven't used Testors paint since my days of building model
car kits as a ***ager -- what's the differences between their regular paint
and their Model Master line?

Testors - Steel (#1180)
http://www.FoundCollection.com/

Testors - Steel Model Master (#1780)
http://www.FoundCollection.com/

Testors - Steel (sg) Model Master (#4679)
http://www.FoundCollection.com/

 
 
 

Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Trainma » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 03:45:38



Quote:


> > Have you checked the Testor's enamels "Steel", etc.?  They do make
> > varius shades of metal colors.....

> I am trying to avoid solvent-based paints...

> But which of those Testors colors have you used to simulate new steel,
both
> plain and galvanized?

I've used Testor's "steel" enamel quite a bit, if necessary "rust" it out
with ceramcoat "red iron oxide", "brown iron oxide" and "barn red"

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Paint mix to simulate steel

Post by Trainma » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:12:10


There IS some difference in the "regualr" square bottle Testors and the
"Model Master" line but I'm not sure what it is.

I DO notice a major difference in drying times when brushed on.  Most of the
"regular" line are dry to the touch in a few minutes, Model Master may be an
hour or so.

Don

--

http://www.FoundCollection.com/



http://www.FoundCollection.com/


Quote:

> :



> >>> Thanks, I didn't realize there was a Testors Model Master Enamel
simply
> >>> called "steel!"  D'oh!

> >> Mark...it is'nt in the "Model Master" line -- it's in their regular
> >> ol' little square bottles!

> >Thanks again.  I haven't used Testors paint since my days of building
model
> >car kits as a ***ager -- what's the differences between their regular
paint
> >and their Model Master line?

> I don't find any difference, when I use them.  Basically, it's a
> choice of color for me.

> I see below with your listings of various stock numbers, that the
> Model Master line does indeed have "Steel".

> The "Steel" I use is the #1180, usually thin it 50-50 with lacquer
> thinner.  Yes, lacquer thinner.  And airbrushing it onto bare plastic
> airlienr models has NEVER been a problem.`

> >Testors - Steel (#1180)
> >http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> >Testors - Steel Model Master (#1780)
> >http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> >Testors - Steel (sg) Model Master (#4679)
> >http://www.FoundCollection.com/