Airplane Car (imitation?)

Airplane Car (imitation?)

Post by Maccyb » Sat, 24 Dec 1994 03:59:01



I have an old Airplane carrier car (027)
Somebody told me that it might be an imitation of the original Lionel
version.
Can somebody tell me how to verify its authenticity and value?
The details:
Red Flatcar with white lettering Lionel and 6800
Airplane is yellow and black with a "V" shaped tail
The underside of the airplane has the following imprinted
"No. 6800-60 Airplane"
"NewYork N.Y."
"Made in the U.S. of America"
I have a copy of the original 1959 Lionel Catalog showing the above
described car and airplane.  I really think I do have the original. My
guess is that the person is setting me up for a low price offer to buy it.
I am new to trains as a serious hobby so I will admit some ignorance.
I also have a 1962 catalog that shows the same setup but the car is number
6500 and the airplane has black lettering "N2742NB" printed on the wing.
otherwise it looks identical to the 1959 version.
 
 
 

Airplane Car (imitation?)

Post by Maccyb » Sat, 24 Dec 1994 23:45:31


THANKS FOR THE RESPONSES REGARDING THIS POSTING.
In the responses I was told that the way to tell an original "Beechcraft
Bonanza" from a reproduction is by counting the number of rivits holding
it together. The respondent did not know how many there should be. Can
anyone tell me the number for an original versus a reproduction?
Also, The car I have is just a plain flatcar with no special fixtures for
holding the airplane. How was the airplane held onto the car originally?


 
 
 

Airplane Car (imitation?)

Post by Kipperm » Tue, 27 Dec 1994 23:44:13


If there is a blank line between the 6800 etc and the New York line,
there is a good chance it is a repro.  See 1 TTR No 4 at p26.  Repros
omit the line becauseit said"The Lionel Corporation".
 
 
 

Airplane Car (imitation?)

Post by Bruce Batt » Sun, 01 Jan 1995 15:59:23



Quote:

>THANKS FOR THE RESPONSES REGARDING THIS POSTING.
>In the responses I was told that the way to tell an original "Beechcraft
>Bonanza" from a reproduction is by counting the number of rivits holding
>it together. The respondent did not know how many there should be. Can
>anyone tell me the number for an original versus a reproduction?
>Also, The car I have is just a plain flatcar with no special fixtures for
>holding the airplane. How was the airplane held onto the car originally?


Per Greenberg's Guide To Lionel Trains, 1945-1969, Volume 1, the
#6500 airplane had 4 rivets where the wing attaches the to plane,
where the #6800 airplane had 3 rivets.

The #6500 airplane was red/white and the train car was not numbered.
The #6800 airplane was black/yellow and the car was numbered 6800.

Repros will NOT have "The Lionel Corporation" on the underside.

The airplane has held on the car with a #J-60 white elastic band.

Hope this helps clarify things,

Bruce