Real Trains and Real Songs

Real Trains and Real Songs

Post by D. Argir » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:53:16



Ok folks, I'm going to turn this compost pile over one more time.

I can think of three real trains that preceded the songs written about them.  They are:

City of New Orleans:            Illinois Central            New Orleans - Chicago
Midnight Special:                Gulf, Mobile & Ohio     St Louis - Chicago
Orange Blossom Special:    Seaboard Airline         Miami - New York.

Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

NOT:  Wabash Cannonball, Blue Water Line, Casey Jones or The Wreck of Old 97.

This should be taken to mean that the train came before the song.

 
 
 

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Post by Mark Math » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:56:39


Quote:
> Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about
them.
> Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

What is your criteria for qualifying as a "mainstream hit?"

Here in the US, Arlo Guthrie's "City of New Orleans" peaked at #18 in 1972,
"Midnight Special" went to #20 for Johnny Rivers in 1965, and no version of
"Orange Blossom Special" ever made the Billboard Top 40 charts (although
Johnny Cash did a version which made it to #80 in 1965).

 
 
 

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Post by steve_ma.. » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:50:40



Quote:

> Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs
written about them.

> Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

> NOT:  Wabash Cannonball, Blue Water Line, Casey Jones or The Wreck of
Old 97.

> This should be taken to mean that the train came before the song.

Well, Big D, as you didn't specify NA :)

Indian Pacific (Nat Rly) Sydney - Perth by Slim Dusty
Southern Aurora (NSW/Vic Rlys) Sydney - Melourne by ? (instrumental)
Coronation Scot (LMS, UK) London - ? by various (British Light Classics)

And as far as Loco's go, there was a tape I heard by an Aussie C&W
singer (yes, we play both types of music here, too) called 3801.

And Neil Young (well known US singer and Lionel freak) had a song
called Southern Pacific on his Reactor (I think) album.

Any more I think of, I'll post. Any songs about the Himalaya and
Darjeeling you're aware of? :)

Steve

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http://www.deja.com/

 
 
 

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Post by Mark Math » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:01:04


Quote:
> And Neil Young (well known US singer and Lionel freak) had a song
> called Southern Pacific on his Reactor (I think) album.

Yes, it was on RE*AC*TOR, that was a pretty cool (different?) album by him.
 
 
 

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Post by David Nebenzah » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:08:15


Quote:

> > Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about
> them.
> > Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

> What is your criteria for qualifying as a "mainstream hit?"

> Here in the US, Arlo Guthrie's "City of New Orleans" peaked at #18 in 1972,

Just to set the record straight: Arlo popularized "City", but that song was
penned by Steve Goodman.

--
  Who needs cool reviews? What does another cool review add to the sum
  of human knowledge? I should have kept my trap shut.

  - Orson Welles, referring to his review of Sergei Eisenstein's
  "Ivan the Terrible"

 
 
 

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Post by Mark Math » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:16:29


Quote:
> Just to set the record straight: Arlo popularized "City", but that song was
> penned by Steve Goodman.

Yes he did... I included Arlo Guthrie's name to indicate which version made
the charts.  Steve Goodman actually wrote the song while riding on the
C.o.N.O.; his version made it to US #113 in 1972.

Likewise, Midnight Special was not written by Johhny Rivers -- it was written
by Leadbelly in 1941.  And Orange Blossom Special was written by Ervin Rouse.

 
 
 

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Post by David Nebenzah » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:21:14


Quote:

> Ok folks, I'm going to turn this compost pile over one more time.

> I can think of three real trains that preceded the songs written about them.  They are:

> City of New Orleans:            Illinois Central            New Orleans - Chicago
> Midnight Special:                Gulf, Mobile & Ohio     St Louis - Chicago
> Orange Blossom Special:    Seaboard Airline         Miami - New York.

Hank Snow's "Golden Rocket": was that a real train?

--
  Who needs cool reviews? What does another cool review add to the sum
  of human knowledge? I should have kept my trap shut.

  - Orson Welles, referring to his review of Sergei Eisenstein's
  "Ivan the Terrible"

 
 
 

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Post by Roy Wil » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:21:55


Pardon me, boy. Is that the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?

Can you hear that whistle down the line? I figure that it's engine
number 49.
It's the only one that sounds that way on the Atchison, Topeka and the
Santa Fe.

Quote:



>> Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs
>written about them.

>> Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

>> NOT:  Wabash Cannonball, Blue Water Line, Casey Jones or The Wreck of
>Old 97.

>> This should be taken to mean that the train came before the song.

>Well, Big D, as you didn't specify NA :)

>Indian Pacific (Nat Rly) Sydney - Perth by Slim Dusty
>Southern Aurora (NSW/Vic Rlys) Sydney - Melourne by ? (instrumental)
>Coronation Scot (LMS, UK) London - ? by various (British Light Classics)

>And as far as Loco's go, there was a tape I heard by an Aussie C&W
>singer (yes, we play both types of music here, too) called 3801.

>And Neil Young (well known US singer and Lionel freak) had a song
>called Southern Pacific on his Reactor (I think) album.

>Any more I think of, I'll post. Any songs about the Himalaya and
>Darjeeling you're aware of? :)

>Steve

>Sent via Deja.com
>http://www.deja.com/

 
 
 

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Post by john a dalt » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 20:46:07


Quote:


>> Ok folks, I'm going to turn this compost pile over one more time.

>> I can think of three real trains that preceded the songs written about them.  They are:

>> City of New Orleans:            Illinois Central            New Orleans - Chicago
>> Midnight Special:                Gulf, Mobile & Ohio     St Louis - Chicago
>> Orange Blossom Special:    Seaboard Airline         Miami - New York.

>Hank Snow's "Golden Rocket": was that a real train?

....."Tennessee Central #9" by Tenn Ernie Ford.....     :))

....."She Took The Katy and Left Me A Mule To Ride" by Lightning Sam
Hopkins.....      :))

......big john.....    :))

 
 
 

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Post by Trainma » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:56:42


If you define "Mainstream hit" (As most "collectors" do) to include the
entire "Billboard Hot 100" (instead of just "Top 40"),  "Orange Blossom
Special" occured twice.

Johnny Cash (peaked at No. 80 in 1965) (as you mentioned)
Billy Vaughn (Instrumental version) (No. 61 in 1963)

 There's LOTS  of "Train" and "Railroad" songs out there, but as I
understand the thread, we're only looking for songs here about specific
"Name trains", and the more I look the more I think those three might be
:it"  (I do plan on researching it more, I do have here data on all the
Billboard "Pop Charts" from 1895 to 1982)

A "Possible" addition might be "Take the "A" Train"  (Although that refers
more to a specific subway ROUTE han a train itself).

Don

--

http://www.geocities.com/don_dellmann



Quote:
> > Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written
about
> them.
> > Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

> What is your criteria for qualifying as a "mainstream hit?"

> Here in the US, Arlo Guthrie's "City of New Orleans" peaked at #18 in
1972,
> "Midnight Special" went to #20 for Johnny Rivers in 1965, and no version
of
> "Orange Blossom Special" ever made the Billboard Top 40 charts (although
> Johnny Cash did a version which made it to #80 in 1965).

 
 
 

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Post by Trainma » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 19:00:33


Oh, in my previous post, I forgot to mention "Midnight Special" was also
first charted by Paul Evans in 1960, and was actually a bigger Hit than
Johnny Rivers' (Peaked at No. 16)

Don

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Quote:
> > Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written
about
> them.
> > Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

> What is your criteria for qualifying as a "mainstream hit?"

> Here in the US, Arlo Guthrie's "City of New Orleans" peaked at #18 in
1972,
> "Midnight Special" went to #20 for Johnny Rivers in 1965, and no version
of
> "Orange Blossom Special" ever made the Billboard Top 40 charts (although
> Johnny Cash did a version which made it to #80 in 1965).

 
 
 

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Post by Trainma » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 19:05:33


Looking at a list of Rock Island "Name trains" ca. 1957 or so, I don't see
it listed.  While most Rock Island trains were "Rockets" the only one I see
listed with "Golden" in the name is The "Golden State", the  joint CRIP/SP
train.

Besides, Hank Snow is COUNTRY, Dimitre said "Mainstream"  <GD&R>

Don

--

http://www.geocities.com/don_dellmann



Quote:

> > Ok folks, I'm going to turn this compost pile over one more time.

> > I can think of three real trains that preceded the songs written about
them.  They are:

> > City of New Orleans:            Illinois Central            New
Orleans - Chicago
> > Midnight Special:                Gulf, Mobile & Ohio     St Louis -
Chicago
> > Orange Blossom Special:    Seaboard Airline         Miami - New York.

> Hank Snow's "Golden Rocket": was that a real train?

> --
>   Who needs cool reviews? What does another cool review add to the sum
>   of human knowledge? I should have kept my trap shut.

>   - Orson Welles, referring to his review of Sergei Eisenstein's
>   "Ivan the Terrible"

 
 
 

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Post by Jerry Phela » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:36:17


"The Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe" by Johnny Mercer

Quote:

> Ok folks, I'm going to turn this compost pile over one more time.

> I can think of three real trains that preceded the songs written about
them.  They are:

> City of New Orleans:            Illinois Central            New Orleans -
Chicago
> Midnight Special:                Gulf, Mobile & Ohio     St Louis -
Chicago
> Orange Blossom Special:    Seaboard Airline         Miami - New York.

> Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written
about them.

> Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

> NOT:  Wabash Cannonball, Blue Water Line, Casey Jones or The Wreck of Old
97.

> This should be taken to mean that the train came before the song.

 
 
 

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Post by Roy Wil » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:51:15




With music by Hal Warren.

"See the old smoke risin' 'round the bend
I reckon that she knows she's gonna meet a friend
Folks around these parts get the time of day
From the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe"

Quote:
>"The Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe" by Johnny Mercer


>> Ok folks, I'm going to turn this compost pile over one more time.

>> I can think of three real trains that preceded the songs written about
>them.  They are:

>> City of New Orleans:            Illinois Central            New Orleans -
>Chicago
>> Midnight Special:                Gulf, Mobile & Ohio     St Louis -
>Chicago
>> Orange Blossom Special:    Seaboard Airline         Miami - New York.

>> Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written
>about them.

>> Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

>> NOT:  Wabash Cannonball, Blue Water Line, Casey Jones or The Wreck of Old
>97.

>> This should be taken to mean that the train came before the song.

 
 
 

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Post by MGuill12 » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:39:30


How about "California Zephyr" by hank Williams.  Or "Pan American" by Hank.  Or
"Texas Special" -  forgot singer but it was on Decca.  Then there is Hank
Snow's "Golden Rocket", maybe the best of all.