Real Trains and Real Songs

Real Trains and Real Songs

Post by D. Argir » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:18:07



Quote:

>Well, Big D, as you didn't specify NA :)

<Demetre is grinning from ear to ear>

No, I didn't. And it's just as well. I'm trying to train myself not to do that anyway. This is
a world-wide comunications medium and we all need to remember that. So, OK, let's have it world
wide, but keep it mainstream if possible. That is, something I can go to a record store (CD
store?) and reasonably expect to find with little or no trouble.

 
 
 

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Post by D. Argir » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:29:55


Quote:

>> Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about
>them.
>> Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

>What is your criteria for qualifying as a "mainstream hit?"

>Here in the US, Arlo Guthrie's "City of New Orleans" peaked at #18 in 1972,
>"Midnight Special" went to #20 for Johnny Rivers in 1965, and no version of
>"Orange Blossom Special" ever made the Billboard Top 40 charts (although
>Johnny Cash did a version which made it to #80 in 1965).

I would say that, for our purposes, If I could go to a place that sells recorded music and buy
the piece or get it with little or no hassle, that would be good enough for me.  If everybody
can agree on that definition then let's go.

Since you seem to know, where did Willie Nelson go with his version of CONO?

I like them both. which one I play depends on my mood at the moment.

 
 
 

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Post by D. Argir » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:36:57



Quote:
>How about "California Zephyr" by hank Williams.  Or "Pan American" by Hank.  Or
>"Texas Special" -  forgot singer but it was on Decca.  Then there is Hank
>Snow's "Golden Rocket", maybe the best of all.

Thanx mguill,
I suspected there was a "Pan American". I think I may have heard it a total of one times in my
life.  I didn't include it in my list because I wasn't sure if I really remembered it or just
wished I had.

Do you know any more about these?

I know the Rock Island had "Rockets".  They also had the "Golden State".  Was there a "Golden
Rocket"?

How 'bout it RI fans?

 
 
 

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Post by Trainma » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:35:38


That's not a train, that's a railroad.  Dimitre was looking for songs about
specific "name trains".

Don

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Quote:
> "The Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe" by Johnny Mercer


> > Ok folks, I'm going to turn this compost pile over one more time.

> > I can think of three real trains that preceded the songs written about
> them.  They are:

> > City of New Orleans:            Illinois Central            New
Orleans -
> Chicago
> > Midnight Special:                Gulf, Mobile & Ohio     St Louis -
> Chicago
> > Orange Blossom Special:    Seaboard Airline         Miami - New York.

> > Were there any other REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written
> about them.

> > Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

> > NOT:  Wabash Cannonball, Blue Water Line, Casey Jones or The Wreck of
Old
> 97.

> > This should be taken to mean that the train came before the song.

 
 
 

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Post by Claude Alle » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:42:24


In that case,
"Trans Europe Express" by Kraftwerk(German, pre-techno)

And, to not ignore one of the most widely used transit systems in the U.S.,
"Take the A Train" by the Glenn Miller Band.

Claude

Quote:


> >Well, Big D, as you didn't specify NA :)

> <Demetre is grinning from ear to ear>

> No, I didn't. And it's just as well. I'm trying to train myself not to do

that anyway. This is
Quote:
> a world-wide comunications medium and we all need to remember that. So,

OK, let's have it world
Quote:
> wide, but keep it mainstream if possible. That is, something I can go to a
record store (CD
> store?) and reasonably expect to find with little or no trouble.

 
 
 

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Post by Jim Guthri » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:39:08


Demetre,

Quote:
>>Well, Big D, as you didn't specify NA :)

><Demetre is grinning from ear to ear>

>No, I didn't. And it's just as well. I'm trying to train myself not to do that anyway. This is
>a world-wide comunications medium and we all need to remember that. So, OK, let's have it world
>wide, but keep it mainstream if possible. That is, something I can go to a record store (CD
>store?) and reasonably expect to find with little or no trouble.

If you're broadening the qualifications

"Oh Mr. Porter" :-)

Words are here

http://www.interlog.com/~camoore/songs/porter.htm

No named train as such,  but you could apply it to any named train
going via Crewe - The Royal Scot", "The Caledonian",  "The Midday
Scot",  etc.

Jim.

 
 
 

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Post by Stephen Wats » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:51:28


I'm not a Rock Island fan, but I've heard a song that goes something
like: "The Rock Island Line, that's the road to ride...must be a mighty
fine line..."

Don't know the title, the author, or even most of the words ;-).

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Post by D. Argir » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:11:07


Quote:

>That's not a train, that's a railroad.  Dimitre was looking for songs about
>specific "name trains".

>Don

Fergit it Don.  This is the USENET <G>
A certain amount of that is always going to happen. No matter how carefully you word something,
those rascally scamps will answer it ANY WAY THEY WANT ! <G>

So far I've picked  several possibilities. California Zephyr, Pan American and Texas Special.
That doubles my repertoire if they all pan out.

 
 
 

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Post by Dave » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:57:09


[This followup was posted to rec.models.railroad and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]


Quote:
> Repeat:  REAL trains that had mainstream hit songs written about them.

> NOT: The Wreck of Old 97.

What was the train that wrecked at Stillwell Trestle then?  I'm just
curious.

Dave
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Post by David Nebenzah » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 04:38:29


Quote:

> Looking at a list of Rock Island "Name trains" ca. 1957 or so, I don't see
> it listed.  While most Rock Island trains were "Rockets" the only one I see
> listed with "Golden" in the name is The "Golden State", the  joint CRIP/SP
> train.

> Besides, Hank Snow is COUNTRY, Dimitre said "Mainstream"  <GD&R>

Why would you assume that the Golden Rocket would be a Rock Island train?
After all, Hank Snow was Canadian. I would've thought it was either CN or
CP.

So, what does "GD&R" mean? Sounds like the name of a railroad to me.

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Post by David Nebenzah » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 04:41:28


Quote:

> I'm not a Rock Island fan, but I've heard a song that goes something
> like: "The Rock Island Line, that's the road to ride...must be a mighty
> fine line..."

> Don't know the title, the author, or even most of the words ;-).

That was written by the great big black singer/songwriter/breaker of the
color barrier, Huddie Ledbetter, better known as Leadbelly.

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Post by David Nebenzah » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 04:45:02


Quote:

> In that case,
> "Trans Europe Express" by Kraftwerk(German, pre-techno)

> And, to not ignore one of the most widely used transit systems in the U.S.,
> "Take the A Train" by the Glenn Miller Band.

No, no, no, not even close: Billy Strayhorn, who actually had to get
directions to Duke Ellington's house to try out for his band, and was thus
inspired to write that timeless tune.

Sheesh, here it is, what, 70 years later, and black songwriters *still*
don't get credit!

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  Who needs cool reviews? What does another cool review add to the sum
  of human knowledge? I should have kept my trap shut.

  - Orson Welles, referring to his review of Sergei Eisenstein's
  "Ivan the Terrible"

 
 
 

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Post by Claude Alle » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 05:08:10


David,

I didn't say he wrote it, I only said he recorded it.  Generally recorded
music is sold under the name of the recording artist, and not the writer.
Hence, a bajillion people think of "Paradise" as a John Denver songe when it
was written by John Prine(Just a slightly OT mention, because it's all wbout
Mr. Peabody's coal trains hauling away western Kentucky).

Claude

Quote:

> > In that case,
> > "Trans Europe Express" by Kraftwerk(German, pre-techno)

> > And, to not ignore one of the most widely used transit systems in the
U.S.,
> > "Take the A Train" by the Glenn Miller Band.

> No, no, no, not even close: Billy Strayhorn, who actually had to get
> directions to Duke Ellington's house to try out for his band, and was thus
> inspired to write that timeless tune.

> Sheesh, here it is, what, 70 years later, and black songwriters *still*
> don't get credit!

> --
>   Who needs cool reviews? What does another cool review add to the sum
>   of human knowledge? I should have kept my trap shut.

>   - Orson Welles, referring to his review of Sergei Eisenstein's
>   "Ivan the Terrible"

 
 
 

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Post by Joe Elli » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 06:36:00


How about "Skimbleshanks the Railway Cat" from _Cats_? <<grin>>

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