My point is, that if you expect "drop in" to mean "no work at all, including
reading the instructions," then you are na?ve. If you have that much
experience with DCC (I've been using and spelling it since 1995, working
with computers since I built my own in 1961), then *flame on* you must be
not particularly observant. *flame off*
WRT: motor leads: yes, Athearn messed up on the F3/F7's (the other Genesis
diesels, too? I don't know). NCE is not stupid (note that I avoided that
word in my flame above). The DA-SR is a drop in for several locomotives,
including the Genesis. Note that the wire attachment pads are too thick for
the plastic grips, too.
*flame on*I suggest you stick with analog train sets: the trains work out of
the box as long as you read the instructions and don't apply AP to the track
(some sets come with a transformer with TWO sets of terminals, AC and DC--I
guess they are not plug and play enough for you. In short, RTFM to avoid
confusion. *flame off*
>> The DA-SR instructions cover modifications to deal with 1.5v bulbs.
> That is not the point. I don't WANT to do ANY modifications. I've been
> doing that for 10 years.
>> you are very new to the world of DCC or are just being picky. Essentially
>> ALL decoders want 15v bulbs and all lower voltage bulbs (including LEDs)
>> need a resistor.
> *Flame on* That is pure hog wash, and by the way, I've probably been "in
> the world of DCC" longer than you've been able to spell it. You must not
> be very famililar with DCC. *flame off* Any Digitrax decoder with a
> model ending in L0 has 1.5V. output for lighting. In this day of
> supposed plug and play I'm just sick of still having to modify every
>> If you want to complain that it is not a "drop in," why not complain because
>> you have to attach wires, too, and that the motor leads for the Genesis F7
>> must be reversed?
> OK I will. I didn't get any further in the installation so I didn't
> realize the motor leads had to be reversed but more importantly Athearn
> is STUPID for manufacturing a locomotive that doesn't use the standard 8
> pin NMRA plug. And NCE is STUPID not to make a decoder with four tiny
> surface mount resistors to lower the voltage to 1.5V and reversing the
> motor leads to make it truly replace the factory board.
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