Beginers Questions

Beginers Questions

Post by Jorge Rodrigue » Fri, 26 Dec 1997 04:00:00



     I am restarting a childhood hobby of mine on HO scale madel trains. I
just have a few questions that I would like to clear.

Can I put more than one engine pulling cars or does it have to be just one
engine and one dummy(Whatever it might be called, sorry I'm just starting)??

How can I know the max number of cars I shoud put for a specific Engine??

Thanks in Advance for all your help

Jorge Rodriguez

 
 
 

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Post by Peter Ki » Fri, 26 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>     I am restarting a childhood hobby of mine on HO scale madel trains.
I
>just have a few questions that I would like to clear.

>Can I put more than one engine pulling cars or does it have to be just
one
>engine and one dummy(Whatever it might be called, sorry I'm just
>starting)??

Multiple engines are OK. For best results, engines should be fairly
closely matched in speed. They don't have to be exact. (You were using
the correct terminology above, BTW.) As long as you are not tripping the
circuit breaker on your power pack, you haven't hit the maximum number of
engines. I've seen as many as 7 engines run together, I'm sure it's
possible to run more.

Quote:

>How can I know the max number of cars I shoud put for a specific Engine??

Try it! If the engine is slipping or straining, or if it gets hot to the
touch quickly, it has too many cars. A decent HO engine should pull quite
a few cars, 15 to 20 would not be unrealistic, depending on curves and
grades.

Quote:
>Thanks in Advance for all your help

>Jorge Rodriguez


Feel free to ask more questions, there's a lot of great help here.

Peter King in NY

 
 
 

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Post by MEAT » Sat, 27 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>Can I put more than one engine pulling cars or does it have to be just one
>engine

Well, it depends...  With a standard power pack controlled layout, you can use
multiple units, but they have to be matched in speed (more or less).
If you are using a DCC system, you can tweek the speeds of the individual
engines to match their speeds.  DCC will even allow you to control two trains
on the same track independantly!!

Quote:
>How can I know the max number of cars I shoud put for a specific Engine??

Trial and error.  Find the tightest curves, and the speetest grades on your
layout.  Try running the engine thought this area.  Each time it comes thru,
add another car, until it runs hot, or strains too much.  This will be the
operational max. for this area.  
The engines will be able to pull more on straight flat, level track, but the
tighest curves, and steepest grades will be the limitting factors for your
layout.

-Scott-

 
 
 

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Post by dpowel » Sat, 27 Dec 1997 04:00:00


15 to 20 cars???  I see clubs at train shows that have trains pulling 50
and more cars?!?!?!?!  Multipul engines again???

Dick,

 
 
 

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Post by T. » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>      I am restarting a childhood hobby of mine on HO scale madel trains. I
> just have a few questions that I would like to clear.

> Can I put more than one engine pulling cars or does it have to be just one
> engine and one dummy(Whatever it might be called, sorry I'm just starting)??

> How can I know the max number of cars I shoud put for a specific Engine??

> Thanks in Advance for all your help

        Hi!  You can use as many powered engines in your lashup, as long
as 1) they have similar performance characteristics and 2) your powerpack
can handle it. Some power packs that comes with train sets can't handle
more than 2 or 3 engines before the voltage drain just becomes so great
that no engines can move, so make sure you got a good power pack.

        The MRC power packs are pretty good--  I've used one with
a 4-engine Athearn GP38-2 lashup and still get good speed.  =)

T.

 
 
 

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Post by Andy Harm » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>can handle it. Some power packs that comes with train sets can't handle
>more than 2 or 3 engines before the voltage drain just becomes so great
>that no engines can move, so make sure you got a good power pack.

Some trainset power packs can't handle *one* engine before
overloading.  

Andy

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Post by F. DABNE » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> 15 to 20 cars???  I see clubs at train shows that have trains pulling 50
> and more cars?!?!?!?!  Multipul engines again???

Depends on the engine.  There is a company called "hobbytown of Boston"
that makes drive chassis for other's body shells.  I have one of these
that can routinely pull over 60 weighted cars around out club layout.
Also, many of the modern models from Kato and P2K (Life-Like's upscale
line) can do this sort of thing.

Even Athearn can usually handle thirty or so in usual circumstances.

Fred D.
Watching the action from BNSF MP 1112, El Paso sub

 
 
 

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Post by T. » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> >can handle it. Some power packs that comes with train sets can't handle
> >more than 2 or 3 engines before the voltage drain just becomes so great
> >that no engines can move, so make sure you got a good power pack.

> Some trainset power packs can't handle *one* engine before
> overloading.  

> Andy

        LOL!  How true.  =)  I do remember from maybe 10 years ago, one of
those Tyco power packs that came with their train sets had barely enough
power to make the one engine run--  Then again, maybe it's those toy
engines with the single powered trucks that go from 0 to scale 60MPH in
.04 seconds.  (grin)

T.

 
 
 

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Post by night.. » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00


OK as long as the "newbies" are speaking, i'll look "dumb" with my
question. I don't quite understand what DCC Control is. Do you buy
Engines that way, is it sort of like Radio Control? Is it in N Guage?

 
 
 

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Post by Andy Harm » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>OK as long as the "newbies" are speaking, i'll look "dumb" with my
>question. I don't quite understand what DCC Control is. Do you buy
>Engines that way, is it sort of like Radio Control? Is it in N Guage?

DCC = Digital Command Control.  There has been a lot written about it
already, but in short form:

* Rather than controlling the train by varying the voltage to the
rails, the voltage is kept constant (as a power source) and
locomotives can be controlled individally by sending digital commands
to them.

* This requires a "command station" in place of a power pack, and any
locomotive you want to run this way must have a "decoder" installed.

* Decoders not only interpret the commands, but perform the functions
such as supplying current to the motor, lights, etc.

* DCC is not scale specific, it can be used in any scale.  Naturally
the smaller the scale, the more difficult it becomes to find a decoder
small enough and get it installed in the loco.

* Specific subject was some Atlas N-scale GP40-2's now being offered
(at extra cost) with decoders already installed.

As to my comment about N scale... I never said that putting DCC in N
scale was "impossible", just something I'd never do, for the same
reasons I don't kitbash or superdetail in N scale.  

Andy

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Post by Jeff Stoc » Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Check out DCC info on the WWW.  www.digitrax.com is one good source. Also
check out the NMRA at www.nmra.org. They have fine information on DCC.


Quote:
>OK as long as the "newbies" are speaking, i'll look "dumb" with my
>question. I don't quite understand what DCC Control is. Do you buy
>Engines that way, is it sort of like Radio Control? Is it in N Guage?