Where are GMS Engines made?

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Jay Bickfor » Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:12:13



Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

Jay B
aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Paul McIntos » Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:22:27


China

--
Paul McIntosh
Desert Sky Model Aviation
Replacement bearings for your model engines.
http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com


Quote:
> Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> Jay B
> aka "Treker in Minnesota"


 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by A.T. » Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:36:41


SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
see engine details at =
http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
also refer to all the links under =
"Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising etc"
at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
..............................................................
regards
Alan T.


Quote:
> Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> Jay B
> aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Paul McIntos » Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:30:15


Alan,

I think you need to check your references.  Those are not GMS engines.  All
of the specs are different and the appearance is also not the same.  The
engines on that web site are Magnums and appear to have blank logo areas for
customer brands.  Anyone can order 1000 engines and have their own brand
placed on them.

--
Paul McIntosh
Desert Sky Model Aviation
Replacement bearings for your model engines.
http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com


Quote:
> SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
> Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> see engine details at =
> http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
> also refer to all the links under =
> "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising
etc"
> at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> ..............................................................
> regards
> Alan T.



> > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > Jay B
> > aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Jay Bickfor » Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:16:57


Thanks for the reply.  However, it brings a question to mind.  The GMS
engines seem to get almost universal praise for quality and performance here
in the newsgroup, while Magnum engines seem to be thought of as having
average quality and performance.  A step above the MDS engines to be sure,
but below the Thunder Tiger's, the GMS's and OS's.  If the GMS's and
Magnum's are made by the same company, I would think they would come about
the same in quality and performance.

Maybe my question should not have been just who makes the GMS's, but who
builds them and who designed them?  If the design is different than the
Magnum's, maybe they were designed by someone else. Maybe that will account
for the performance difference, if not for the quality difference.

Thanks,

Jay B
aka "Treker in Minnesota"


Quote:
> SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
> Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> see engine details at =
> http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
> also refer to all the links under =
> "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising
etc"
> at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> ..............................................................
> regards
> Alan T.



> > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > Jay B
> > aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by WINZE » Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:50:14


East of Eden, in th land of Nod.

Quote:
> Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> Jay B
> aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by A.T. » Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:01:33


Will send you copy of the colour brochure received during recent visit to
China.
regards
Alan T.
Alan's Hobby Web Links
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
..............................................................


Quote:
> Alan,

> I think you need to check your references.  Those are not GMS engines.
All
> of the specs are different and the appearance is also not the same.  The
> engines on that web site are Magnums and appear to have blank logo areas
for
> customer brands.  Anyone can order 1000 engines and have their own brand
> placed on them.

> --
> Paul McIntosh
> Desert Sky Model Aviation
> Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com



> > SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
> > Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> > see engine details at =
> > http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
> > also refer to all the links under =
> > "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising
> etc"
> > at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> > ..............................................................
> > regards
> > Alan T.



> > > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > > Jay B
> > > aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by James D Jone » Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:12:05


How can you tell that they aren't ASP engines?  :-)

Jim - AMA 501383

Quote:

> Alan,

> I think you need to check your references.  Those are not GMS engines.  All
> of the specs are different and the appearance is also not the same.  The
> engines on that web site are Magnums and appear to have blank logo areas for
> customer brands.  Anyone can order 1000 engines and have their own brand
> placed on them.

> --
> Paul McIntosh
> Desert Sky Model Aviation
> Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com



>>SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
>>Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
>>see engine details at =
>>http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
>>also refer to all the links under =
>>"Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising

> etc"

>>at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
>>http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
>>..............................................................
>>regards
>>Alan T.



>>>Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

>>>Jay B
>>>aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Paul McIntos » Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:49:02


ASP used a smaller logo area.

--
Paul McIntosh
Desert Sky Model Aviation
Replacement bearings for your model engines.
http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com



Quote:
> How can you tell that they aren't ASP engines?  :-)

> Jim - AMA 501383


> > Alan,

> > I think you need to check your references.  Those are not GMS engines.
All
> > of the specs are different and the appearance is also not the same.  The
> > engines on that web site are Magnums and appear to have blank logo areas
for
> > customer brands.  Anyone can order 1000 engines and have their own brand
> > placed on them.

> > --
> > Paul McIntosh
> > Desert Sky Model Aviation
> > Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> > http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com



> >>SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
> >>Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> >>see engine details at =
> >>http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
> >>also refer to all the links under =
> >>"Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising

> > etc"

> >>at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> >>http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> >>..............................................................
> >>regards
> >>Alan T.



> >>>Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> >>>Jay B
> >>>aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by pe reiver » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:27:20


Through misterious strokes of luck I obtained a Sanye 4.00 5-cyl.radial,
prototype #4, as displayed in Dordtmund Germany. It has an original Sanye
label. Two years later, this same engine appeared for sale as the Magnum
radial.
It seems that Sanye does a lot of OEM work for private labels, and depending
on the price negotiated, will work to specification.
Am I right?
BTW,
Over here, Magnum has earned a surprising good name for itself. The engines
are quite reliable and have an excellent price/quality ratio.
Paul, are you sure GMS is not by the same works? It takes just a different
insert in the casting mold to make a change in label?
--

Rgds,
P
From Arcen, South-East in the Netherlands
http://home.wanadoo.nl/pereivers/home.html
http://mvvs-nl.com/
www.prme.nl


Quote:
> Alan,

> I think you need to check your references.  Those are not GMS engines.
All
> of the specs are different and the appearance is also not the same.  The
> engines on that web site are Magnums and appear to have blank logo areas
for
> customer brands.  Anyone can order 1000 engines and have their own brand
> placed on them.

> --
> Paul McIntosh
> Desert Sky Model Aviation
> Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com



> > SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
> > Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> > see engine details at =
> > http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
> > also refer to all the links under =
> > "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising
> etc"
> > at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> > ..............................................................
> > regards
> > Alan T.



> > > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > > Jay B
> > > aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Paul McIntos » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:38:08


All of the specifications and castings are different.  Bore, stroke, carbs,
everything.  Not only that but GMS easily outperform all of the other brands
from that factory.

--
Paul McIntosh
Desert Sky Model Aviation
Replacement bearings for your model engines.
http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com


Quote:
> Through misterious strokes of luck I obtained a Sanye 4.00 5-cyl.radial,
> prototype #4, as displayed in Dordtmund Germany. It has an original Sanye
> label. Two years later, this same engine appeared for sale as the Magnum
> radial.
> It seems that Sanye does a lot of OEM work for private labels, and
depending
> on the price negotiated, will work to specification.
> Am I right?
> BTW,
> Over here, Magnum has earned a surprising good name for itself. The
engines
> are quite reliable and have an excellent price/quality ratio.
> Paul, are you sure GMS is not by the same works? It takes just a different
> insert in the casting mold to make a change in label?
> --

> Rgds,
> P
> From Arcen, South-East in the Netherlands
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/pereivers/home.html
> http://mvvs-nl.com/
> www.prme.nl



> > Alan,

> > I think you need to check your references.  Those are not GMS engines.
> All
> > of the specs are different and the appearance is also not the same.  The
> > engines on that web site are Magnums and appear to have blank logo areas
> for
> > customer brands.  Anyone can order 1000 engines and have their own brand
> > placed on them.

> > --
> > Paul McIntosh
> > Desert Sky Model Aviation
> > Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> > http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com



> > > SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
> > > Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> > > see engine details at =
> > > http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
> > > also refer to all the links under =
> > > "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising
> > etc"
> > > at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> > > ..............................................................
> > > regards
> > > Alan T.



> > > > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > > > Jay B
> > > > aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Ed Cregg » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 01:27:02


Perhaps the quality depends on the contract?

I would imagine that the factory produces engines on contract for
certain parties. The engine manufacturer does not market its product
at all, from my understanding. That is left up to the people buying
the lots of engines that are built to certain specifications/
fit/finish.

Ed Cregger

Quote:

> Thanks for the reply.  However, it brings a question to mind.  The GMS
> engines seem to get almost universal praise for quality and performance here
> in the newsgroup, while Magnum engines seem to be thought of as having
> average quality and performance.  A step above the MDS engines to be sure,
> but below the Thunder Tiger's, the GMS's and OS's.  If the GMS's and
> Magnum's are made by the same company, I would think they would come about
> the same in quality and performance.

> Maybe my question should not have been just who makes the GMS's, but who
> builds them and who designed them?  If the design is different than the
> Magnum's, maybe they were designed by someone else. Maybe that will account
> for the performance difference, if not for the quality difference.

> Thanks,

> Jay B
> aka "Treker in Minnesota"



> > SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
> > Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> > see engine details at =
> > http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
> > also refer to all the links under =
> > "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising
>  etc"
> > at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> > ..............................................................
> > regards
> > Alan T.



> > > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > > Jay B
> > > aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Paul McIntos » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 01:32:26


They were designed by different people.  I wish I could still get the
Raptor!  I would need to be able to order about a thousand at a time.

If I was big enough, I could have a special version for myself.  I really
want to make a CL version with proper port timing.
--
Paul McIntosh
Desert Sky Model Aviation
Replacement bearings for your model engines.
http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com


Quote:
> Perhaps the quality depends on the contract?

> I would imagine that the factory produces engines on contract for
> certain parties. The engine manufacturer does not market its product
> at all, from my understanding. That is left up to the people buying
> the lots of engines that are built to certain specifications/
> fit/finish.

> Ed Cregger




Quote:
> > Thanks for the reply.  However, it brings a question to mind.  The GMS
> > engines seem to get almost universal praise for quality and performance
here
> > in the newsgroup, while Magnum engines seem to be thought of as having
> > average quality and performance.  A step above the MDS engines to be
sure,
> > but below the Thunder Tiger's, the GMS's and OS's.  If the GMS's and
> > Magnum's are made by the same company, I would think they would come
about
> > the same in quality and performance.

> > Maybe my question should not have been just who makes the GMS's, but who
> > builds them and who designed them?  If the design is different than the
> > Magnum's, maybe they were designed by someone else. Maybe that will
account
> > for the performance difference, if not for the quality difference.

> > Thanks,

> > Jay B
> > aka "Treker in Minnesota"



> > > SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.sanyemodel.com/html/ee.htm
> > > Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> > > see engine details at =
> > > http://www.mecoa.com/gms/index.htm
> > > also refer to all the links under =
> > > "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning, Anodising
> >  etc"
> > > at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> > > ..............................................................
> > > regards
> > > Alan T.



> > > > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > > > Jay B
> > > > aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by pe reiver » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 02:59:45


Do you still sell GMS?
I would want to try a .15 for 1/12 aircombat and compare it with the .15
MVVS.
These little ***s are so tight that they hardly run in before you get a
chance to crash the plane.
--

Rgds,
P
From Arcen, South-East in the Netherlands
http://www.FoundCollection.com/
http://www.FoundCollection.com/
www.prme.nl


Quote:
> All of the specifications and castings are different.  Bore, stroke,
carbs,
> everything.  Not only that but GMS easily outperform all of the other
brands
> from that factory.

> --
> Paul McIntosh
> Desert Sky Model Aviation
> Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> http://www.FoundCollection.com/



> > Through misterious strokes of luck I obtained a Sanye 4.00 5-cyl.radial,
> > prototype #4, as displayed in Dordtmund Germany. It has an original
Sanye
> > label. Two years later, this same engine appeared for sale as the Magnum
> > radial.
> > It seems that Sanye does a lot of OEM work for private labels, and
> depending
> > on the price negotiated, will work to specification.
> > Am I right?
> > BTW,
> > Over here, Magnum has earned a surprising good name for itself. The
> engines
> > are quite reliable and have an excellent price/quality ratio.
> > Paul, are you sure GMS is not by the same works? It takes just a
different
> > insert in the casting mold to make a change in label?
> > --

> > Rgds,
> > P
> > From Arcen, South-East in the Netherlands
> > http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > www.prme.nl



> > > Alan,

> > > I think you need to check your references.  Those are not GMS engines.
> > All
> > > of the specs are different and the appearance is also not the same.
The
> > > engines on that web site are Magnums and appear to have blank logo
areas
> > for
> > > customer brands.  Anyone can order 1000 engines and have their own
brand
> > > placed on them.

> > > --
> > > Paul McIntosh
> > > Desert Sky Model Aviation
> > > Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/



> > > > SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > > Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> > > > see engine details at =
> > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > > also refer to all the links under =
> > > > "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning,
Anodising
> > > etc"
> > > > at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/~atong/
> > > > ..............................................................
> > > > regards
> > > > Alan T.



> > > > > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > > > > Jay B
> > > > > aka "Treker in Minnesota"

 
 
 

Where are GMS Engines made?

Post by Paul McIntos » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 06:52:21


GMS doesn't offer a .15.  The smallest one I could get was the .25.

--
Paul McIntosh
Desert Sky Model Aviation
Replacement bearings for your model engines.
http://www.FoundCollection.com/


Quote:
> Do you still sell GMS?
> I would want to try a .15 for 1/12 aircombat and compare it with the .15
> MVVS.
> These little ***s are so tight that they hardly run in before you get a
> chance to crash the plane.
> --

> Rgds,
> P
> From Arcen, South-East in the Netherlands
> http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> www.prme.nl



> > All of the specifications and castings are different.  Bore, stroke,
> carbs,
> > everything.  Not only that but GMS easily outperform all of the other
> brands
> > from that factory.

> > --
> > Paul McIntosh
> > Desert Sky Model Aviation
> > Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> > http://www.FoundCollection.com/



> > > Through misterious strokes of luck I obtained a Sanye 4.00
5-cyl.radial,
> > > prototype #4, as displayed in Dordtmund Germany. It has an original
> Sanye
> > > label. Two years later, this same engine appeared for sale as the
Magnum
> > > radial.
> > > It seems that Sanye does a lot of OEM work for private labels, and
> > depending
> > > on the price negotiated, will work to specification.
> > > Am I right?
> > > BTW,
> > > Over here, Magnum has earned a surprising good name for itself. The
> > engines
> > > are quite reliable and have an excellent price/quality ratio.
> > > Paul, are you sure GMS is not by the same works? It takes just a
> different
> > > insert in the casting mold to make a change in label?
> > > --

> > > Rgds,
> > > P
> > > From Arcen, South-East in the Netherlands
> > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > www.prme.nl



> > > > Alan,

> > > > I think you need to check your references.  Those are not GMS
engines.
> > > All
> > > > of the specs are different and the appearance is also not the same.
> The
> > > > engines on that web site are Magnums and appear to have blank logo
> areas
> > > for
> > > > customer brands.  Anyone can order 1000 engines and have their own
> brand
> > > > placed on them.

> > > > --
> > > > Paul McIntosh
> > > > Desert Sky Model Aviation
> > > > Replacement bearings for your model engines.
> > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/



> > > > > SY Machinery Co Ltd = http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > > > Sanye Machinery Co.,Ltd = ASP, AP, GMS, Magnum,SC, RCV etc
> > > > > see engine details at =
> > > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > > > also refer to all the links under =
> > > > > "Engines,Plugs,Tuning, Petrol, Turbines, Mufflers, Cleaning,
> Anodising
> > > > etc"
> > > > > at  Alan's Hobby Web Links
> > > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/~atong/
> > > > > ..............................................................
> > > > > regards
> > > > > Alan T.



> > > > > > Does anyone know where the GMS engines are made?

> > > > > > Jay B
> > > > > > aka "Treker in Minnesota"