What type of pen finish?

What type of pen finish?

Post by Greg » Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:29:47



Hello all

I am new to the pen making scene and havea  question regaurding finishes. I
have used the HUT crystal coat( which is good, but not sure how long the
finish lasts?)and some oil and urathane ( it takes to long to dry). So i am
wondering what is a good finish to put on wood pens, while the lathe is
turning and gives a good, shiny hard finish that wont run off after
time.(not interested in the CA finish)

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Thanks,
Gregg

 
 
 

What type of pen finish?

Post by Bernie Bobe » Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:41:37


What consistency of CA glue do you use for the pen finish?  I haven't used
CA before but am interested in trying it.  I have been using a turners
polish but probably don't even need to use that as most of my pens are made
with "stabilized wood".  I am fortunate enough to have a fellow nearby whom
has a stabilizing outfit.

Bernie Bober.

 
 
 

What type of pen finish?

Post by Chuc » Sat, 12 Mar 2005 04:34:22



Quote:
>I am new to the pen making scene and havea  question regaurding finishes. I
>have used the HUT crystal coat( which is good, but not sure how long the
>finish lasts?)and some oil and urathane ( it takes to long to dry). So i am
>wondering what is a good finish to put on wood pens, while the lathe is
>turning and gives a good, shiny hard finish that wont run off after
>time.(not interested in the CA finish)

Hi Gregg,

I've run the gamut with pen finishes, from Crystal Coat (ugh...wears
off in minutes!) through the thick, syrupy, glossy poly finishes.  My
current favorite, and one I use for nearly all of my pens, is a couple
of coats of cellulose sanding sealer, or if it's a denser wood,
sanding sealer cut 50% with turpentine.  I buff this out with a paper
towel and follow with some pure carnauba wax, buffed with a piece of
old flannel sheet.  I sometimes subsititute EEE Ultrashine for the
sanding sealer, and sometimes use that between the sanding sealer and
the wax, but I always end with the pure carnauba, which lasts for a
long, long time, and can be buffed out easily when it gets
finger-marked.  CA glues are okay, but they _do_ wear off, and
besides, you're not really touching the wood, but a layer of glue.  My
wife has one I made for her a couple of years ago with a CA finish,
and where the glue is wearing off it looks splotchy.  You won't get
this with a wax finish, because as the wax wears away, it is replaced
by a natural patina, which is better than any artificial finish
anyhow.

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What type of pen finish?

Post by John » Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:57:18


When applying Ca, I often use the plastic bag the small pen parts come
in. I put it over 1 or two fingers, put a couple of drops of CA on the
pen while its turning, and spread it around with the bag. The bag will
slide right off my fingers if it gets caught (hasn't happened yet).

John

 
 
 

What type of pen finish?

Post by Owen Low » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:41:10



Quote:

> I am new to the pen making scene and havea  question regaurding finishes. I
> have used the HUT crystal coat( which is good, but not sure how long the
> finish lasts?)and some oil and urathane ( it takes to long to dry). So i am
> wondering what is a good finish to put on wood pens, while the lathe is
> turning and gives a good, shiny hard finish that wont run off after
> time.(not interested in the CA finish)

When these questions about pen finishes and longevity of finish are
posted I'm often reminded of rod building - i.e. fishin' poles. I don't
recall reading about using epoxy as a pen finish, but it's flexible and
very durable as it's used over the thread wraps that hold the guides and
stuff on the rod shaft. With rod building, one puts pretty heavy coats
of epoxy on the wraps and uses a small motor to turn the horizontal rod
slowly to keep the epoxy from sagging and dripping off the bottom edge.
Seems something similar could be done with pen finishing though not as
thickly applied.

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as 100% Americanism."   --  Huey P. Long

 
 
 

What type of pen finish?

Post by Steve Russel » Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:43:22


Hello Owen,

I'm just back from a demonstration in Orlando, Florida and got in on this
thread late... I have been using a binary epoxy as my primary pen finish for
several years. It is in fact, a signature finish of my on all of my high end
writing instruments. It offers the best longevity of the film and lustre on
a pen, but it is none too easy to apply. I use the same method as fishing
rod manufacturers, in fact, that is what got me thinking about using epoxy
one day as I watched some rods being finished.

Through the years, I have perfected the epoxy pen finishing process,
although it took a bit of trial and error with getting the protocol setup
correctly. CA can come close to achieving the best that epoxy can offer, but
it must be applied correctly. Most turners do not apply the CA with the
optimum applicator (I experimented with numerous materials until I found the
least reactive) and experience difficulties in laying on an even film. I
have met numerous turners at my demonstrations around the U.S. that are
following my CA protocol and report it is producing consistently excellent
results.

All my R&D work on perfecting woodturning finishing protocols really pays
off, but the experimentation and failures you experience until you achieve
success can make you feel like you're banging your head against a steel
reinforced wall at times... :-0 Back to my laboratory! Take care and all the
best to you and yours!

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