Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by Richard Peer » Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:00:00



Woodcraft are now listing a new finishing product, Hut Crystal Coat, on
their web site. From the description, it appears to be a shellac-based
friction polish, but which also contains carnauba wax. Has anyone used
this product? Is it any good? Finally, does anyone know how I can get
hold of it in the UK, as Woodcraft say they cannot ship it outside the
USA because it is a potentially combustible material, and a threat to
any aircraft which carries it - even if I ask for surface mail delivery!

I'd appreciate an email copy of any responses to the address below.

Thanks

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Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by Penguy.co » Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:00:00


I have a bottle and find it pretty useless.  It wears off almost immediately
and has very little shine to it..  Send me 3.20 for priority shipping and
you can have the bottle I have for free.  I think I paid 9.00 for it from
www.hutproducts.com.

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Thanks,
Dave

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Wood pens 16.00, Deer Antler pens 31.00


Quote:
> Woodcraft are now listing a new finishing product, Hut Crystal Coat, on
> their web site. From the description, it appears to be a shellac-based
> friction polish, but which also contains carnauba wax. Has anyone used
> this product? Is it any good? Finally, does anyone know how I can get
> hold of it in the UK, as Woodcraft say they cannot ship it outside the
> USA because it is a potentially combustible material, and a threat to
> any aircraft which carries it - even if I ask for surface mail delivery!

> I'd appreciate an email copy of any responses to the address below.

> Thanks

> --
> Richard Peers
> [Replies to richard_peers AT hotmail DOT com]

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


 
 
 

Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by rangerd.. » Mon, 01 May 2000 04:00:00




Quote:
> Woodcraft are now listing a new finishing product, Hut Crystal Coat,
on
> their web site. From the description, it appears to be a shellac-based
> friction polish, but which also contains carnauba wax. Has anyone used
> this product? Is it any good? > Thanks

(snip)

Richard,
I have a good friend who turns fantastic pens. I have seen him use it
with great success. I have one of his bottle stops finished with this
stuff and it is holding up better than any of the other finished he's
used. I know this goes contrary to the penguy's post, but that's what
this ng is all about... a wide variety of experiences. BTW, it is very
high shine, too.
Ranger***

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Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by Ashling Ranc » Mon, 01 May 2000 04:00:00


Richard,

    I can't help with the shipping problem, but I will be glad to share my
experiences with HCC.

    I do a good many pens.  I have had great success with HCC.

    I apply it with a good deal of friction with the lathe running and let
it build up.  I generally (though not always) finish with one or two coats
of Carnuba.  I have found that it gives a durable finish .

    John MillerPickett

 
 
 

Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by Thomas Trage » Mon, 01 May 2000 04:00:00


It is a Shellac & Wax blend.  High shine is therefore possible, but
your durability will be somewhat less than a modern lacquer or poly.

On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:03:06 -0500, "Penguy.com"

Quote:

>I have a bottle and find it pretty useless.  It wears off almost immediately
>and has very little shine to it..  Send me 3.20 for priority shipping and
>you can have the bottle I have for free.  I think I paid 9.00 for it from
>www.hutproducts.com.

 
 
 

Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by NOSP » Sat, 06 May 2000 04:00:00


I have used it on pens and decorative (small) bowls.  Easy to use, has
held up great for me.  The bowls dont get handled too much so that isn't
much of a durability test, but the pens have seemed to hold up quite
well.

Bob


Quote:
> Woodcraft are now listing a new finishing product, Hut Crystal Coat, on
> their web site. From the description, it appears to be a shellac-based
> friction polish, but which also contains carnauba wax. Has anyone used
> this product? Is it any good? Finally, does anyone know how I can get
> hold of it in the UK, as Woodcraft say they cannot ship it outside the
> USA because it is a potentially combustible material, and a threat to
> any aircraft which carries it - even if I ask for surface mail delivery!

 
 
 

Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by Penguy.co » Sat, 06 May 2000 04:00:00


How are you guys putting this stuff on because my results stunk and everyone
else seems to like it??

I have made thousands of pens and durability is a real concern when you want
repeat business.  I have even been a contributor to some of the bigger pen
sellers on the internet with great success but I sure didn't have any luck
with this stuff.  Maybe it's me, fill me in on your technique.

--
Thanks,
Dave

www.penguy.com
Wood pens 16.00, Deer Antler pens 31.00


Quote:
> I have used it on pens and decorative (small) bowls.  Easy to use, has
> held up great for me.  The bowls dont get handled too much so that isn't
> much of a durability test, but the pens have seemed to hold up quite
> well.

> Bob


> > Woodcraft are now listing a new finishing product, Hut Crystal Coat, on
> > their web site. From the description, it appears to be a shellac-based
> > friction polish, but which also contains carnauba wax. Has anyone used
> > this product? Is it any good? Finally, does anyone know how I can get
> > hold of it in the UK, as Woodcraft say they cannot ship it outside the
> > USA because it is a potentially combustible material, and a threat to
> > any aircraft which carries it - even if I ask for surface mail delivery!

 
 
 

Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by Ashling Ranc » Sun, 07 May 2000 04:00:00


Dave,

    I can't tell you how many times I have tried something that everybody swears by and come away with the conclusion "it must be me."  :-)   Seriously though, I am of the firm opinion that nothing works for everybody all the time.  Maybe it has something to do with the phase of the moon or the alignment of the planets.  And what works for me works for me and thats about the best I can say for it.

    Anyway, here's my general finishing technique for pens (caveat:  my method varies a little depending on the way the wood looks, the type of wood, if I'm in too much of a hurry,  . . . oh, yeah,and ,  the phase of the moon):

1.    Generally I sand down to 600,  then I use some cloth backed abrasive I have that is marked "extra fine", I'm really not sure the #, but it is finer than 600, then, I hit it with some steel wool - I know, I know, but I like it ;

2.     Next I burnish with a handful of shavings.  I try to use those from the same wood, but I keep a feed sack  full of general shavings beside the lathe.  My studio is in an unattached and unsealed garage, so I keep halfway expecting to find a scorpion in the sack, so I am real careful with this step ;  I apply a good deal of friction so I use a big handful as it can get pretty hot  - or maybe tat's just the scorpion  :-) .

3.     I then - sometimes - use Tung or Danish oil.  Sometimes I use  one coat an wipe it off - sometimes I  let it build a little applying friction at moderate to high speeds.

4.   Then comes the CrCt.  I apply this while the pen is turning - the higher the speed the better.  I hold a clean cloth on the pen and apply the CrCt to the cloth as the pen picks it up.  I work it in with a good deal of friction.  Sometimes I apply two coats (phase of the moon)

5.   Finally, I put on another coat or two of carnuba depending on  . . . well, you know.

    As I say, I don't know if this is the "preferrred" method, or if it works for anybody else.  The only thing I know is it works for me.

John Pickett
Ashling Ranch
Llano, Texas

Quote:

>How are you guys putting this stuff on because my results stunk and everyone
>else seems to like it??

>I have made thousands of pens and durability is a real concern when you want
>repeat business.  I have even been a contributor to some of the bigger pen
>sellers on the internet with great success but I sure didn't have any luck
>with this stuff.  Maybe it's me, fill me in on your technique.

>--
>Thanks,
>Dave

>www.penguy.com
>Wood pens 16.00, Deer Antler pens 31.00



>> I have used it on pens and decorative (small) bowls.  Easy to use, has
>> held up great for me.  The bowls dont get handled too much so that isn't
>> much of a durability test, but the pens have seemed to hold up quite
>> well.

>> Bob


>> > Woodcraft are now listing a new finishing product, Hut Crystal Coat, on
>> > their web site. From the description, it appears to be a shellac-based
>> > friction polish, but which also contains carnauba wax. Has anyone used
>> > this product? Is it any good? Finally, does anyone know how I can get
>> > hold of it in the UK, as Woodcraft say they cannot ship it outside the
>> > USA because it is a potentially combustible material, and a threat to
>> > any aircraft which carries it - even if I ask for surface mail delivery!

 
 
 

Is Hut Crystal Coat any good?

Post by Seado » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00


I haven't been doing these all that long so I take the simple way out.
Depending on the wood, I sand down to at least 600 - usually to 1000.  Then
I burnish with a soft cloth (more to get all the dust off than anything
else).  Then, using a clean cloth and a medium speed (around 1400, I think)
I apply a few drops along the blanks - using the cloth to even everything
out.  I put 2 coats on this way.  Then, using the same wet area of the
cloth, I apply pressure to heat things up a bit.

Another couple of coats and I repeat the heat trick with the wet cloth.  I
finish up with a clean, dry cloth (I have found a use for all those old,
shrunken t-shirts.

I find the finish is bright, has a good shine and seems to hold up.  I have
a cherry pen that I use at work.  It is exposed to dirt, moisture and salt
air.  The cherry has darkened and become very beautiful but the shine is
still there.  I have sold a number of pens to co-workers and others because
of that one pen.

I guess it's in what you want.  My wife always wants my pens to be "glossy".
The only way I have managed that is to apply many, many coats of shellac or
use poly.  They feel just like a BIC.  I would rather have a nice shine but
still be able to feel the texture of the wood.

If you are like me, you have a bad blank or two laying around.  Chuck one up
and play with the process until you find the best for you.

Seadog


Quote:
> How are you guys putting this stuff on because my results stunk and
everyone
> else seems to like it??

> I have made thousands of pens and durability is a real concern when you
want
> repeat business.  I have even been a contributor to some of the bigger pen
> sellers on the internet with great success but I sure didn't have any luck
> with this stuff.  Maybe it's me, fill me in on your technique.

> --
> Thanks,
> Dave

> www.penguy.com
> Wood pens 16.00, Deer Antler pens 31.00



> > I have used it on pens and decorative (small) bowls.  Easy to use, has
> > held up great for me.  The bowls dont get handled too much so that isn't
> > much of a durability test, but the pens have seemed to hold up quite
> > well.

> > Bob


> > > Woodcraft are now listing a new finishing product, Hut Crystal Coat,
on
> > > their web site. From the description, it appears to be a shellac-based
> > > friction polish, but which also contains carnauba wax. Has anyone used
> > > this product? Is it any good? Finally, does anyone know how I can get
> > > hold of it in the UK, as Woodcraft say they cannot ship it outside the
> > > USA because it is a potentially combustible material, and a threat to
> > > any aircraft which carries it - even if I ask for surface mail
delivery!