FA - press that would be useful as a pen press or an embossing press

FA - press that would be useful as a pen press or an embossing press

Post by sbnjhft » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:59:09



Quote:

> some of you folks may find this press useful - it looks to me like it was
> originally for pressing snaps onto fabric, but it would make a great pen
> press or an embossing press (to press your mark into wood, copper, pweter,
> etc)

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300328013766

IMHO that doesn't look like it would be useful as a pen press.
 
 
 

FA - press that would be useful as a pen press or an embossing press

Post by Bill Nobl » Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:59:42



Quote:

>> some of you folks may find this press useful - it looks to me like it was
>> originally for pressing snaps onto fabric, but it would make a great pen
>> press or an embossing press (to press your mark into wood, copper,
>> pweter, etc)

>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300328013766

> IMHO that doesn't look like it would be useful as a pen press.

here is how I would use it as a pen press - remove the lower die (one
screw), put a pad on the top die so you don't mar the pen - mount to edge of
work bench - put small ledge at proper distance bellow - rest pen on ledge
with pen body going through the hole that held the lower die and press
together - if you want to smoosh a design into some wood, (like ripose') you
can put a flat upper die in it and smoosh away.

 
 
 

FA - press that would be useful as a pen press or an embossing press

Post by sbnjhft » Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:48:37


Quote:




>>> some of you folks may find this press useful - it looks to me like it was
>>> originally for pressing snaps onto fabric, but it would make a great pen
>>> press or an embossing press (to press your mark into wood, copper,
>>> pweter, etc)

>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300328013766

>> IMHO that doesn't look like it would be useful as a pen press.

> here is how I would use it as a pen press - remove the lower die (one
> screw), put a pad on the top die so you don't mar the pen - mount to edge of
> work bench - put small ledge at proper distance bellow - rest pen on ledge
> with pen body going through the hole that held the lower die and press
> together - if you want to smoosh a design into some wood, (like ripose') you
> can put a flat upper die in it and smoosh away.

The biggest problem I see is that it looks like it has less than 1 inch
of stroke, which wouldn't surprise me given it's intended use.
Furthermore, it has so much leverage due to it's design that you would
not get good feel from it and could end up damaging pens.

I have never pressed designs in wood but I agree that it may work good
for that.

 
 
 

FA - press that would be useful as a pen press or an embossing press

Post by Bill Nobl » Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:37:23



Quote:




>>>> some of you folks may find this press useful - it looks to me like it
>>>> was originally for pressing snaps onto fabric, but it would make a
>>>> great pen press or an embossing press (to press your mark into wood,
>>>> copper, pweter, etc)

>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300328013766

>>> IMHO that doesn't look like it would be useful as a pen press.

>> here is how I would use it as a pen press - remove the lower die (one
>> screw), put a pad on the top die so you don't mar the pen - mount to edge
>> of work bench - put small ledge at proper distance bellow - rest pen on
>> ledge with pen body going through the hole that held the lower die and
>> press together - if you want to smoosh a design into some wood, (like
>> ripose') you can put a flat upper die in it and smoosh away.

> The biggest problem I see is that it looks like it has less than 1 inch
> of stroke, which wouldn't surprise me given it's intended use.
> Furthermore, it has so much leverage due to it's design that you would
> not get good feel from it and could end up damaging pens.

> I have never pressed designs in wood but I agree that it may work good
> for that.

Ok, so you got me thinking - I measured the stroke - it's just over 1 inch -
the pens I have assembled needed about 1/2 inch max but some designs might
take more

you are right that it has a lot of leverage but I use a similar type of
setup (actually the one I use is designed for assembling connectors) and the
feel is OK.  on this unit, the leverage increases near the end of the stroke
(it's based on the shape of the cam)

But these are all good points that one should consider.

 
 
 

FA - press that would be useful as a pen press or an embossing press

Post by mac davi » Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:01:02


Dick Sing, who I consider an expert pen turner and teacher, uses an arbor press
to assemble his pens.. THAT'S pressure..lol

He advocates a press block for each pen kit, to control how far it's pressed..
I'm to lazy to use them, but can see how it would work well..

As to Stroke, IMO all you need is enough to press the pen together, (1/4" ?) and
then to back off for pen insertion/removal..  That's why pen presses have
adjustable back stops, isn't it?  YMWV

Quote:







>>>>> some of you folks may find this press useful - it looks to me like it
>>>>> was originally for pressing snaps onto fabric, but it would make a
>>>>> great pen press or an embossing press (to press your mark into wood,
>>>>> copper, pweter, etc)

>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300328013766

>>>> IMHO that doesn't look like it would be useful as a pen press.

>>> here is how I would use it as a pen press - remove the lower die (one
>>> screw), put a pad on the top die so you don't mar the pen - mount to edge
>>> of work bench - put small ledge at proper distance bellow - rest pen on
>>> ledge with pen body going through the hole that held the lower die and
>>> press together - if you want to smoosh a design into some wood, (like
>>> ripose') you can put a flat upper die in it and smoosh away.

>> The biggest problem I see is that it looks like it has less than 1 inch
>> of stroke, which wouldn't surprise me given it's intended use.
>> Furthermore, it has so much leverage due to it's design that you would
>> not get good feel from it and could end up damaging pens.

>> I have never pressed designs in wood but I agree that it may work good
>> for that.

>Ok, so you got me thinking - I measured the stroke - it's just over 1 inch -
>the pens I have assembled needed about 1/2 inch max but some designs might
>take more

>you are right that it has a lot of leverage but I use a similar type of
>setup (actually the one I use is designed for assembling connectors) and the
>feel is OK.  on this unit, the leverage increases near the end of the stroke
>(it's based on the shape of the cam)

>But these are all good points that one should consider.

mac

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FA - press that would be useful as a pen press or an embossing press

Post by Larry Pierc » Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:00:27


This looks like an arbor press available at harbor freight,   lots of
pen turners use them as a  Pen press
Quote:


>*** Sing, who I consider an expert pen turner and teacher, uses an arbor press
> to assemble his pens.. THAT'S pressure..lol

> He advocates a press block for each pen kit, to control how far it's pressed..
> I'm to lazy to use them, but can see how it would work well..

> As to Stroke, IMO all you need is enough to press the pen together, (1/4" ?) and
> then to back off for pen insertion/removal..  That's why pen presses have
> adjustable back stops, isn't it?  YMWV







>>>>>> some of you folks may find this press useful - it looks to me like it
>>>>>> was originally for pressing snaps onto fabric, but it would make a
>>>>>> great pen press or an embossing press (to press your mark into wood,
>>>>>> copper, pweter, etc)

>>>>>> http://www.FoundCollection.com/

>>>>> IMHO that doesn't look like it would be useful as a pen press.
>>>> here is how I would use it as a pen press - remove the lower die (one
>>>> screw), put a pad on the top die so you don't mar the pen - mount to edge
>>>> of work bench - put small ledge at proper distance bellow - rest pen on
>>>> ledge with pen body going through the hole that held the lower die and
>>>> press together - if you want to smoosh a design into some wood, (like
>>>> ripose') you can put a flat upper die in it and smoosh away.
>>> The biggest problem I see is that it looks like it has less than 1 inch
>>> of stroke, which wouldn't surprise me given it's intended use.
>>> Furthermore, it has so much leverage due to it's design that you would
>>> not get good feel from it and could end up damaging pens.

>>> I have never pressed designs in wood but I agree that it may work good
>>> for that.
>> Ok, so you got me thinking - I measured the stroke - it's just over 1 inch -
>> the pens I have assembled needed about 1/2 inch max but some designs might
>> take more

>> you are right that it has a lot of leverage but I use a similar type of
>> setup (actually the one I use is designed for assembling connectors) and the
>> feel is OK.  on this unit, the leverage increases near the end of the stroke
>> (it's based on the shape of the cam)

>> But these are all good points that one should consider.

> mac

> Please remove splinters before emailing