Fruit wine question

Fruit wine question

Post by Kirk Ock » Wed, 01 Nov 2000 08:12:35



Hi All,

  so far I have only ever made wine from grapes, but I am trying a little
experiment to make a dessert style wine from fruit.  I plan to use
blueberries, black berries and raspberries in a 3:2:1 ratio.  I plan to use
a Chenin Blanc concentrate to bring the crushed fruit and added water up to
22 brix.  I will Ferment to dryness (pressing somewhere along the way), and
then sweeten with more grape concentrate (probably around 10% RS).   I
decided not to do a single type of fruit, but instead chose three fruits
with a pronounced berry flavor (which is good given the are berries).  I'm
doing this not only to get the berry character, but to also get a more
complex wine (I hope).  Most of the fruit wines I've tasted have been very
one dimensional in terms of the aroma and taste.

  So are my questions:

  1.) Are the three berries (in the given ratio) I've chosen a good mix?  (I
understand this is subjective and dependent on my taste, but if for example
even the proportionately small amount of raspberries will dominate the wine,
it would be nice to know).

  2.) My initial goal is 6lbs blue berries, 4 lbs black berries and 2 lbs
raspberries with 3 gallons of water, chaptilized to 22 brix using grape
concentrate.  Does this seem like the right amount of water (too much/little
dilution)?

Thanks
   Kirk

 
 
 

Fruit wine question

Post by jackkelle » Sat, 04 Nov 2000 09:46:33


Kirk, sorry, but I missed your post earlier.

I understand your goal.  Your method may or may not be correct to
achieve it.  I can't say because I haven't made that particular wine.
However, I have made a lot of berry wines.  The blueberry and
blackberry marriage should be very nice.  The raspberries, however, if
red, could overwhelm the other two flavors.  Black raspberries would be
better suited to the deeper flavors of the other two dark berries.

I would do it differently, making three wines and blending.  This may
not be possible for you to do, but you would certainly have positive
control over the results that way.

Let us know what you do and how it turns out.

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Fruit wine question

Post by Kirk Ock » Sun, 05 Nov 2000 09:15:09


Jack,

  thanks for the advice.  Perhaps I will limit the raspberries to 1 lb, or
try to find frozen black raspberries.  What about the idea of exchanging the
raspberries for black cherries?

  As for blending, I completely agree it is the most tried and true method.
However, I think I will be working with a very small amount of wine.  This
is really an experiment to see if I can find a reasonably priced alternative
dessert wine for friends and family (they want it sweet and fruity).

Kirk


Quote:
> Kirk, sorry, but I missed your post earlier.

> I understand your goal.  Your method may or may not be correct to
> achieve it.  I can't say because I haven't made that particular wine.
> However, I have made a lot of berry wines.  The blueberry and
> blackberry marriage should be very nice.  The raspberries, however, if
> red, could overwhelm the other two flavors.  Black raspberries would be
> better suited to the deeper flavors of the other two dark berries.

> I would do it differently, making three wines and blending.  This may
> not be possible for you to do, but you would certainly have positive
> control over the results that way.

> Let us know what you do and how it turns out.

> Jack Keller, The Winemaking Home Page,
> http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/1172/

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

 
 
 

Fruit wine question

Post by jackkelle » Mon, 06 Nov 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
>What about the idea of exchanging the raspberries for black cherries?

That's a great idea!  As a matter of fact, I recently brought a bottle
of Blackhaw and Black Cherry wine to a tasting and everyone raved about
it.  I expained that I only had a pitiful amount of blackhaws -- from
an uncle's bush -- so I mixed them with the black cherries just to be
able to make a wine.  Even then, I only made a half-gallon.

Jack Keller, The Winemaking Home Page,
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/index.asp

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Fruit wine question

Post by Kirk Ock » Mon, 06 Nov 2000 04:00:00


Jack,

  Great.  I'm going with the black cherries instead.

Thanks
  Kirk


Quote:

> >What about the idea of exchanging the raspberries for black cherries?

> That's a great idea!  As a matter of fact, I recently brought a bottle
> of Blackhaw and Black Cherry wine to a tasting and everyone raved about
> it.  I expained that I only had a pitiful amount of blackhaws -- from
> an uncle's bush -- so I mixed them with the black cherries just to be
> able to make a wine.  Even then, I only made a half-gallon.

> Jack Keller, The Winemaking Home Page,
> http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/index.asp

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.