Help! My cranberries are not fermenting

Help! My cranberries are not fermenting

Post by Igor » Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:01:21



I started a batch of cranberry wine following Jack Keller's recipe.
After mixing all the ingredients, the specific gravity was 1.092, the
TA was 0.52%, and the pH was 2.85. I thought that the pH was way too
low, and I was afraid that the yeast wouldn't work, so I added 2 more
cups of water in an attempt to increase it. I added 100 g. of sugar
along with the water in order to maintain the sugar level. It's now
been 36 hours since I pitched the yeast (Pasteur Champagne) and there
is no activity. I increased the room temperature from 70 F to 75 F, and
I've been stirring the must every several hours. What's going on? Is
the low pH killing the yeast? Should I increase the room temperature
some more? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
 
 

Help! My cranberries are not fermenting

Post by Droop » Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:12:32


Quote:

> I started a batch of cranberry wine following Jack Keller's recipe.
> After mixing all the ingredients, the specific gravity was 1.092, the
> TA was 0.52%, and the pH was 2.85. I thought that the pH was way too
> low, and I was afraid that the yeast wouldn't work, so I added 2 more
> cups of water in an attempt to increase it. I added 100 g. of sugar
> along with the water in order to maintain the sugar level. It's now
> been 36 hours since I pitched the yeast (Pasteur Champagne) and there
> is no activity. I increased the room temperature from 70 F to 75 F, and
> I've been stirring the must every several hours. What's going on? Is
> the low pH killing the yeast? Should I increase the room temperature
> some more? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

what volume of wine are you making?  Adding a couple cups of water will
not significantly change pH because pH is a logarithemis scale (so a
wine with a pH of 3 has 10 times the number of protons in solution as a
wine with a pH of 4).  You look to be a full pH unit below the optimal
pH range for yeast (3.7-4).

that would be my first guess at your sluggish ferment.  Did you pitch
the yeast directly into the wine or did you rehydrate?  that low of a
pH could be fairly lethal to a yeast that you pitch directly into the
must.

My first guess is that the low pH is inhibiting yeast activity.  I
would add 1/4 tsp of calcium carbonate (or potassium bicarbonate) to
the batch, test the pH (try to get it above 3 at least) and then pitch
fresh yeast.

 
 
 

Help! My cranberries are not fermenting

Post by Igor » Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:33:49


The recipe that I'm following is for one gallon of finished wine. I
mixed the yeast with lukewarm water (100 F) and then poured that into
the must.
 
 
 

Help! My cranberries are not fermenting

Post by Droop » Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:44:59


Quote:

> The recipe that I'm following is for one gallon of finished wine. I
> mixed the yeast with lukewarm water (100 F) and then poured that into
> the must.

Yeah i a guess that the pH was jsut to low.

You used nutrient and all that right?

 
 
 

Help! My cranberries are not fermenting

Post by Mike McGeoug » Sun, 19 Feb 2006 06:28:17


Igor,

Check the similar thread of 2/9/06. Cranberries contain natural Benzoic
acid, which is a preservative & inhibits yeast growth.

Try making a starter and adding your cranberry must to it in small,
increasing increments. Say, a cup of must to a quart of active starter,
then a pint when it's fermenting well again, then a quart, etc. Keep
adding 50% of your fermenting volume, if it will tolerate it. This
method works well for a lot of stuck fermentations, and may work here too.

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Help! My cranberries are not fermenting

Post by Roger McGinni » Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:54:06


This is exactly the problem I had with a recent batch of cranberry wine.
Using Pasteur champagne yeast and following Mike's procedure worked well but
it still took about a week for the fermentation to really take off.

Quote:
> Igor,

> Check the similar thread of 2/9/06. Cranberries contain natural Benzoic
> acid, which is a preservative & inhibits yeast growth.

> Try making a starter and adding your cranberry must to it in small,
> increasing increments. Say, a cup of must to a quart of active starter,
> then a pint when it's fermenting well again, then a quart, etc. Keep
> adding 50% of your fermenting volume, if it will tolerate it. This
> method works well for a lot of stuck fermentations, and may work here too.

> --
> Mike MTM, Cokesbury, NJ, USA

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Help! My cranberries are not fermenting

Post by Igor » Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:24:30


Update:

This morning I started another packet of Pasteur Champagne with a
little warm water. Then I mixed it with 1/2 cup of the cranberry must
plus another 1/2 cup of plain water. A couple of hours later it was
fermenting. Then I started adding one cup of must per hour. I have now
transfered about half of all the must and it's still fermenting
vigorously. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, which saved the day.