apple cider vs. apple juice

apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Doug Miller...see my sig for real e-mail addre » Tue, 05 Aug 1997 04:00:00



+What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
+used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
+apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
+difference.

Cider is basically unprocessed apple juice, made from fresh-pressed
apples. The apple juice you buy in the grocery has been filtered and
pasteurized.

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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Sheryl Nance-Durs » Tue, 05 Aug 1997 04:00:00



Quote:


> +What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
> +used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
> +apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
> +difference.

> Cider is basically unprocessed apple juice, made from fresh-pressed
> apples. The apple juice you buy in the grocery has been filtered and
> pasteurized.

It also depends on what country you're talking about.  In England (& in
books from England) I believe "cider" is ***ic -- what we in America
call "hard cider".

Sheryl Nance-Durst

 
 
 

apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by arne thormods » Tue, 05 Aug 1997 04:00:00



: +What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
: +used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
: +apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
: +difference.

: Cider is basically unprocessed apple juice, made from fresh-pressed
: apples. The apple juice you buy in the grocery has been filtered and
: pasteurized.

Not necessarily.  There are filtered products called "apple cider" and
"apple juice" available from the same manufacturer here.  My wife and I,
and a friend, did a tasting of the two awhile back (I bought a gallon of
each to use to make a hard cider).  None of us could tell the
difference.

--arne

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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Doug Miller...see my sig for real e-mail addre » Wed, 06 Aug 1997 04:00:00



+: +What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
+: +used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
+: +apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
+: +difference.
+
+: Cider is basically unprocessed apple juice, made from fresh-pressed
+: apples. The apple juice you buy in the grocery has been filtered and
+: pasteurized.
+
+Not necessarily.  There are filtered products called "apple cider" and
+"apple juice" available from the same manufacturer here.  My wife and I,
+and a friend, did a tasting of the two awhile back (I bought a gallon of
+each to use to make a hard cider).  None of us could tell the
+difference.
+
Apple cider and apple juice are not the same thing. However, this does
not prevent some food producers (such as the one you encountered)
from labelling juice as cider -- and charging a premium price for it. The
reason you couldn't tell the difference was that there wasn't any. But I'll
bet the "cider" cost about 20% more.

Come visit us here in Pendleton, Indiana. We have a local apple grower
who produces the most terrific fresh-pressed *real* cider. Definitely not
the same as supermarket apple juice -- regardless of whether that juice
is labelled as cider.

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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Doug Miller...see my sig for real e-mail addre » Wed, 06 Aug 1997 04:00:00




+
+>What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
+>used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
+>apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
+>difference.
+
+This question was asked before, so I went to the ba***t and pulled
+out a couple glass jugs that I bought from the grocery store.  I am
+tired so am not going to the ba***t now.
+
+As I remember it, I bought apple juice and apple cider.  The jugs were
+all the clear juice or cider.  The ingredients were apple juice and
+water.  Different brands, different names, but basically same stuff.

Nope. Not at all the same. If you think they are, then the "cider" you've
been buying isn't cider.

Apple juice is yellow and transparent. Apple cider is brown and opaque,
and has a much richer flavor.

Come to Pendleton IN where Tranbarger's Apple Barn produces the
world's best _real_ cider and you'll never drink pseudo-cider again.

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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Don Schill » Wed, 06 Aug 1997 04:00:00




Quote:
>What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
>used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
>apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
>difference.

This question was asked before, so I went to the ba***t and pulled
out a couple glass jugs that I bought from the grocery store.  I am
tired so am not going to the ba***t now.

As I remember it, I bought apple juice and apple cider.  The jugs were
all the clear juice or cider.  The ingredients were apple juice and
water.  Different brands, different names, but basically same stuff.

My opinion, they are pretty much interchangable, but be sure they
don't have sulfite or sorbate if you are going to use them for
winemaking.

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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Dan Razze » Wed, 06 Aug 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> According to the Random House College Dictionary...
> "the expressed juice of apples used for drinking, either before
> fermentation (sweet cider) or after fermentation (hard cider), or for making
> applejack, vinegar, etc."

> According to the American Heritage Dictionary...
> "The juice pressed from apples, used to produce vinegar or a beverage.
> [<Heb. shekar, intoxicating drink.]


> > According to the Oxford dictionary, cider is the "fermented drink made from
> > apple juice".

In the United States, the term "cider" is ambiguous.  In the big wide world
it refers to fermented apple juice only.

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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Lee Parke » Wed, 06 Aug 1997 04:00:00


If the ingredients said apple juice & water, then it wasn't cider.  Cider
be 100% more or less apple juice.  (if it's made right there should be a
very small percentage of worm parts in it) <G>
--

 
 
 

apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Tim Mille » Wed, 06 Aug 1997 04:00:00


 According to the Random House College Dictionary...
 "the expressed juice of apples used for drinking, either before
fermentation (sweet cider) or after fermentation (hard cider), or for making
applejack, vinegar, etc."

According to the American Heritage Dictionary...
"The juice pressed from apples, used to produce vinegar or a beverage.
[<Heb. shekar, intoxicating drink.]

Those are the only two dictionaries I have.

Tim


Quote:
>According to the Oxford dictionary, cider is the "fermented drink made from
>apple juice".

 
 
 

apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Tim Mille » Wed, 06 Aug 1997 04:00:00


 I have noticed that the apple cider is kept in a different location of the
grocery stores than the apple juice.


Quote:
>What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
>used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
>apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
>difference.

 
 
 

apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Don Schill » Fri, 08 Aug 1997 04:00:00




Quote:

>+
>+As I remember it, I bought apple juice and apple cider.  The jugs were
>+all the clear juice or cider.  The ingredients were apple juice and
>+water.  Different brands, different names, but basically same stuff.

>Nope. Not at all the same. If you think they are, then the "cider" you've
>been buying isn't cider.

>Apple juice is yellow and transparent. Apple cider is brown and opaque,
>and has a much richer flavor.

>Come to Pendleton IN where Tranbarger's Apple Barn produces the
>world's best _real_ cider and you'll never drink pseudo-cider again.

 Hey, what I said is that I have 4 jugs, now sitting on my desk.  They
read:
Best Yet Apple Cider-ingredients-filtered water and apple juice
concentrate.
Shure Fine Natural Apple Cider-ingredients-apple cider
Indian Summer Apple Cider-ingredients-apple cider
Flavorite Apple Cider-ingredients-apple juice.

LIke I said, these jugs are called cider and have cider or juice as
their ingredients.  According to these manufactures, juice makes
cider.

Okay, you tell the people that the stuff they made and bottled, the
product I bought, can't be called cider.

Even the dictionary says that cider is apple juice.
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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Scott Niven » Sat, 09 Aug 1997 04:00:00


About a month ago I say on episode of The Simpsons which addressed this
issue.
The Simpsons ran into the Flanders' at the local cider mill. Ned
Flanders told Homer the difference between cider and juice:

"If it is tangy and brown, you're in cider town ; if it's sweet and
yellow, you've got juice there fellow."

Personally, I think Ned Flanders is an idiot!

-Scott

 
 
 

apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Bert Wei » Sun, 10 Aug 1997 04:00:00




Quote:


>+What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
>+used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
>+apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
>+difference.

>Cider is basically unprocessed apple juice, made from fresh-pressed
>apples. The apple juice you buy in the grocery has been filtered and
>pasteurized.

>----------
>Doug Miller
>dlmiller!at!inetdirect!dot!net

In New England,  Cider is made by pressing apples into juice.
The tastiest cider is made by blending different varieties of apples.
In the grocery store most cider has potassium sorbate added as a
preservative. avoid this for fermentation projects.
You can get unpreserved cider at the natural foods store or from a cider mill.
Cider can be pressed year round if the apples are stored in an oxygen free
environment.
Cider usually comes packed in a plastic 1/2 gal or 1 gallon jug.
Apple juice has been filtered and pasteurized, it comes packed in glass
jugs or steel cans (so they can be heated)
For fermentation projects get delicious, pure, unpreserved, unfiltered,
fresh, apple cider. This product is alive and vital.

It seems dictionary definitions are of little use here.
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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by Doug Miller...see my sig for real e-mail addre » Sun, 10 Aug 1997 04:00:00


+About a month ago I say on episode of The Simpsons which addressed this
+issue.
+The Simpsons ran into the Flanders' at the local cider mill. Ned
+Flanders told Homer the difference between cider and juice:
+
+"If it is tangy and brown, you're in cider town ; if it's sweet and
+yellow, you've got juice there fellow."
+
+Personally, I think Ned Flanders is an idiot!
+
Why? He has it absolutely right.

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apple cider vs. apple juice

Post by MADwa » Sun, 10 Aug 1997 04:00:00


::>+What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice?  I see them
::>+used almost interchangeably for making apple cider.  Strange that you use
::>+apple cider to make apple cider, though.  Seems like there is no
::>+difference.
::For fermentation projects get delicious, pure, unpreserved, unfiltered,
::fresh, apple cider. This product is alive and vital.
::
and just what do you get when you ferment "cider" as you have defined it
here?