Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Mik » Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:00:00



A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
It is a Zintners Reserve White Zinfandel and all is going well - we
expect to bottle it next week.

However, the debate has started as to whether it can be called:

a       a blush?
b       a rose?
c       simply a red.

Comments folks???

 
 
 

Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Peter Newm » Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Well make your own decision, since White Zin is made from a red grape,
both, Rose' and Blush are made from Red grapes also.  It isn't a red
wine since the skins were removed from the must, just after the crush.

Quote:

>A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
>It is a Zintners Reserve White Zinfandel and all is going well - we
>expect to bottle it next week.
>However, the debate has started as to whether it can be called:
>a   a blush?
>b   a rose?
>c   simply a red.
>Comments folks???

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Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Judy Tolliv » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Do NOT call it a "red."  That is a *completey* different wine.

These kinds of wines used to be called "rose," but marketers thought it
sounded too effeminate and decided to call it "white zinfandel," or so
I've heard.

--Judy

 
 
 

Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Tom D. Weatherr » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00




Quote:

>A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
>It is a Zintners Reserve White Zinfandel and all is going well - we
>expect to bottle it next week.

>However, the debate has started as to whether it can be called:

>a       a blush?
>b       a rose?
>c       simply a red.

>Comments folks???

In my opinion all white zinfandels are blushes!  (I also love them!)
 
 
 

Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Dan Parke » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
> <the rest snipped>

Brew his kit for him?  Maybe I'm missing something but...where's the
point in that?  He may as well go to the store and buy something ready
to drink now...
 
 
 

Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by David B Gibs » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
> It is a Zintners Reserve White Zinfandel and all is going well - we
> expect to bottle it next week.
> However, the debate has started as to whether it can be called:
> a  a blush?
> b  a rose?
> c  simply a red.

===> Answer: (a) and (c).
     Reason: There are two true categories of wine: white wine and red wine.
             Anything not a white is considered a red (short-form), thus your
             Zin may be both a 'blush' and a 'red'.  Oh yes, 'blushes' are
             'rose' as well... just another fancy name for it.

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Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Zaphod Beeblebro » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Strictly a blush!

And isn't it wonderful!  Have you tried Sebastiani's White Zin?

J



Quote:
> A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
> It is a Zintners Reserve White Zinfandel and all is going well - we
> expect to bottle it next week.

> However, the debate has started as to whether it can be called:

> a  a blush?
> b  a rose?
> c  simply a red.

> Comments folks???

 
 
 

Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Tom D. Weatherr » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00


In article


Quote:

>Strictly a blush!

>And isn't it wonderful!  Have you tried Sebastiani's White Zin?

>J



>> A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
>> It is a Zintners Reserve White Zinfandel and all is going well - we
>> expect to bottle it next week.

>> However, the debate has started as to whether it can be called:

>> a     a blush?
>> b     a rose?
>> c     simply a red.

>> Comments folks???

Sebastiani's is good but I make better Zin Blush from Alexander's
concentrate!
 
 
 

Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Christopher Jon » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00




Quote:

>Strictly a blush!

>And isn't it wonderful!  Have you tried Sebastiani's White Zin?

>J



>> A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
>> It is a Zintners Reserve White Zinfandel and all is going well - we
>> expect to bottle it next week.

>> However, the debate has started as to whether it can be called:

>> a     a blush?
>> b     a rose?
>> c     simply a red.

>> Comments folks???

In response to your query and this may be open to some debate which I am sure
many are up to the challenge.

A Blush is a still wine and a Rose is a carbonated wine.

I have also heard that a Blush is a wine made from the mixture of white and red
wine to form a pinky color. Where as a Rose is made from a red wine that has
had the juice press from the skin as soon as or shortly after crushing. But
this is subject to much question, with the term Zinfandel Blush.

Any way you look at it as a Zinfandel Blush, White Zinfandel or a Chablis
Blush, This is a White wine not a red wine. this should be served very chilled
actually I like mine colder than a regular white wine.
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Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Dan Razze » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> In response to your query and this may be open to some debate which I
> am sure many are up to the challenge.

> A Blush is a still wine and a Rose is a carbonated wine.

> I have also heard that a Blush is a wine made from the mixture of
> white and red wine to form a pinky color. Where as a Rose is made from
> a red wine that has had the juice press from the skin as soon as or
> shortly after crushing. But this is subject to much question, with the
> term Zinfandel Blush.

There really isn't much room for debate, as the origins of both words
are well known.

Both terms refer simply to wines of any shade of pink.  Blush is an
American term that was first used by Mill Creek Winery in the late
1980s.  Rose is the considerably older and more universal French term.

In American usage, Blush often describes a particularly pale form of
Rose and tends to identify wine made as Blanc de Noirs as opposed to a
blend of white and red grapes or juices, though the usage is far from
precise.

See the Oxford Companion to Wine for a more detailed description of
both terms.

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Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Dan Razze » Sat, 29 Mar 1997 04:00:00




Quote:
> In my opinion all white zinfandels are blushes!

Absolutely.

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Zinfandel --- White or Blush?

Post by Don Schill » Fri, 04 Apr 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>> A friend of mine asked me to brew his kit for him.
>> It is a Zintners Reserve White Zinfandel and all is going well - we
>> expect to bottle it next week.
>> However, the debate has started as to whether it can be called:
>> a      a blush?
>> b      a rose?
>> c      simply a red.
>===> Answer: (a) and (c).
>     Reason: There are two true categories of wine: white wine and red wine.
>             Anything not a white is considered a red (short-form), thus your
>             Zin may be both a 'blush' and a 'red'.  Oh yes, 'blushes' are
>             'rose' as well... just another fancy name for it.

Day late ( or more ) and now it is time for my opinion and some facts.

A blush is made from juice pressed from red grapes.  The wine is
fermented with the juice only.

A rose is made from red grapes where the wine is fermented on the skin
for a short period of time.

A red is fermented on the skin for a longer time.

Okay, those are the facts.  These facts come from "Winemaking Basics"
from C.S. Ough.  As you can see, rose and blush are not the same
thing.

A white zinfandel is a good light wine, but my opinion, I like a good
full bodied red zin.  mmmmm.

Oh, yeah, for the person making the comment "A Blush is a still wine
and a Rose is a carbonated wine", that is not true.  Either can be
carbonated, but calling it rose does not mean it will be carbonated.

Don

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