Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Terrance Leighto » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00



IMHO, the 85 DP should continue to improve for another decade.

The 1970, '66 and '64 are drinking great presently.

                 -Terrance

 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Anne P. Mitchell, Es » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00


 A couple of years ago I was given a gift of a bottle of 1985 Dom
 Perignon, which I have been saving for a special occasion.  However,
 recently it was suggested to me that one should not keep champagne for a
 long time, and that it does not age well.

 Does anyone have any information on this subject?

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Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Paul S Winalsk » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>  A couple of years ago I was given a gift of a bottle of 1985 Dom
>  Perignon, which I have been saving for a special occasion.  However,
>  recently it was suggested to me that one should not keep champagne for a
>  long time, and that it does not age well.

>  Does anyone have any information on this subject?

Some Champagne ages very well, especially the luxury vintage
cuvees such as Dom Perignon.  It is true that one shouldn't
keep Champagne for a long time unless one has ideal cellaring
conditions.  Champagne is more prone to damage from poor
storage than most other wines that one keeps for long periods.

--PSW

 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by John » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00


The 1985 Dom Perignon will age well for another decade or
two! It is a great Dom that is really quite young at the
present time. However, how you store this wine is very,
very important. Champagne is the most delicate wine, and
its fragile balance is extremely susceptible to
mishandling. If you want to age it until it hits its apogee
(ten years sounds pretty good to me, too), it needs to be
stored in gentle cellaring conditions. Somewhere between
52-64 degrees, high humidity, and as vibration-free and
dark as possible. My cellar has room :-)

John

 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by P. Solland » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:


> >  A couple of years ago I was given a gift of a bottle of 1985 Dom
> >  Perignon, which I have been saving for a special occasion.  However,
> >  recently it was suggested to me that one should not keep champagne for a
> >  long time, and that it does not age well.

> >  Does anyone have any information on this subject?

> Some Champagne ages very well, especially the luxury vintage
> cuvees such as Dom Perignon.  It is true that one shouldn't
> keep Champagne for a long time unless one has ideal cellaring
> conditions.  Champagne is more prone to damage from poor
> storage than most other wines that one keeps for long periods.

> --PSW

I read somewhere that champagne is very light sensitive and that it will
deteriorate ('taste of light' the book said) if exposed for a few hours.

I figure that could be the reason why you often get better champagne in
individual cardboard boxes.  --Any input on that??

And to follow up on the thread; Should you then store the champagne in its
box if you keep it several years??

Cheers,
        Peter.

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Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Sasha Katsma » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> IMHO, the 85 DP should continue to improve for another decade.

> The 1970, '66 and '64 are drinking great presently.

>                  -Terrance

As is the 73. (Am I beginning to sound like a broken record, Terrance?)

:-)

actually, 85 reminds me more of the 73 than those other vintages.

in any case, there is not question it needs time, provided
temperature and humidity controlled storage environment

.sasha

 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Robert Wol » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00


On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:57:22 -0500, Paul S Winalski

Champagne is aged in the bottles in the producer's cellar. It is not
sparkling at this time, and ages well to the degree that the base wine
is cellar worthy. Occasionally, the producer will disgorge a batch,
and re-release a vintage dated Champagne. That's how bottles of older
champagne can still be found in good shape. Bubbly stored at home goes
flat, even in a decent cellar - - although there is a subgroup of
Champagne lovers who like it old and flat.

 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Zaphod Beeblebro » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00


I think that someone's pulling your leg! They probably wanted you to open
it so that they could taste it!  Dom P 85 must be fantastic!  You lucky
lady!  You can drink it now or anytime in the next few years.  Don't think
I have any need of your family law, Anne.  

Keep Smilin'

John



 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Mila » Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Anne,

I would disagree strongly with whoever made that suggestion.  Check
out my post above concerning old sparkling wines.

Your '85 Dom is terrific.  I had a bottle in Tahiti this past January
on my anniversary and have a few bottles left in my cellar.  It's no
crime to drink a wine that tastes good, but that wine will be
delicious for another five years; perhaps much longer.

Milan in Santa Cruz    


Quote:
> A couple of years ago I was given a gift of a bottle of 1985 Dom
> Perignon, which I have been saving for a special occasion.  However,
> recently it was suggested to me that one should not keep champagne for a
> long time, and that it does not age well.

> Does anyone have any information on this subject?
>--
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>          Free:  10 Tips for Navigating the Family Law System
>                      http://www.parentinglaw.com
>             Actually, I'm a lawyer -and- I play one on tv.

 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Eric » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00


What does IMHO stand for?
Eric


Quote:
> IMHO, the 85 DP should continue to improve for another decade.

> The 1970, '66 and '64 are drinking great presently.

>                  -Terrance

 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Dan Daigl » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> A couple of years ago I was given a gift of a bottle of 1985 Dom

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Quote:
>                 Actually, I'm a lawyer -and- I play one on tv.

was visiting a winery at Niagara-on-the-Lake this summer, the subject came
up and their advise was drink when bought- that the aging has been done
prior to bottling for sale.

From personal experience I saved a bottle of champaign from my sister's
wedding and returned it to them on their 10th anniversary. Stored on its
side (plastic cap and all) in a closet for the 10 years.   An evaluation of
the Champaign was - it was flat,  it had started to throw solids, but it
was a nice sentiment.

don't know how the "expensive stuff" will age though.


 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Oscar William » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>  A couple of years ago I was given a gift of a bottle of 1985 Dom
>  Perignon, which I have been saving for a special occasion.  However,
>  recently it was suggested to me that one should not keep champagne for a
>  long time, and that it does not age well.

>  Does anyone have any information on this subject?

> --
>                  I am: mom, attorney, fathers' rights advocate
>               Free:  10 Tips for Navigating the Family Law System
>                           http://www.parentinglaw.com
>                  Actually, I'm a lawyer -and- I play one on tv.

I gave my parents an '85 DP. They gave it back a couple of years ago
because they only drink Scotch. Unfortunately, they live in Florida and
did not properly control the temperature. Average temperature was
possibly 70 degrees. When I tried it about a year ago, it had turned to
caramel. So do be careful. -Oscar
 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by Terrance Leighto » Mon, 31 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> What does IMHO stand for?
> Eric

In-my-humble-opinion.
 
 
 

Can one save/age champagne, or does it lose something with age?

Post by kang cha » Wed, 02 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> IMHO, the 85 DP should continue to improve for another decade.
> The 1970, '66 and '64 are drinking great presently.
>                  -Terrance

Will 90 DP improve?

Thanks.

--KC